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Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 13 19:40:58 2007, in response to Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Feb 13 16:30:15 2007.

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The Southern State also had a widening project, similar to the Northern State. At the beginning of most of the parkways, you have to picture the Bethpage Parkway for anyone that knows what it looked like. Eventually, most of them wound up later looking somewhat like the Wantagh Parkway.
When it was time to widen the Southern Parkway from it's four lane highway, what they actually did is build a parallel parkway right next to the original Southern State. All the bridges had MIRROR images of themselves built next to the original. I am not sure which side is original, eastbound or west bound, but with EACH "double" bridge, one side is the original, that used to originally have traffic going both ways under it, until the doubling made it one direction. If you look very very closely at some of the Southern State bridges, you can actually tell which is the original, some of them have the original side, ever so slightly more intricate than the later double built next to it.

In some locations, the original bridge was a smaller "original" double bridge", that only two lanes would fit under in each direction. I think it's somewhere around Babylon (not sure of the exact location), where the westbound side breaks apart, forms four lanes, two going under a two lane bridge, and two going another two lane bridge. In that case, they just added a three lane bridge next to the original double bridge for the eastbound side.

In the case of the Northern State three laning about 15 years ago up from the Meadowbrook to the Wantagh Parkway, in that case, I guess they didn't want to destroy the trees on one side add a parallel parkway for the opposite side to allow for a six lane road with the original bridges, they instead chose to just add a lane in each dirrection, but that also meant that each bridge had to be completely torn down and rebuilt. They carefully removed all the decorative signature Robert Moses stones, stored them, and rebuilt the bridges with the same decorative stone encasings. They also obviously needed new stone, so they had new stone mined in the same place Robert Moses got the stone from, and came up with a pretty nice modern version of Robert Moses' old bridges in that rebuild and widening project.

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