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Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 14 15:29:22 2007, in response to A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 9 14:16:58 2007.

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Hopefully this topic is coming to a close so I'd like to summarize the major points I think most of us can agree on.

1. Moses made many useful contributions.

2. Much have what he built never would have gotten done had he not lived, would have been built years later, and much of it would have been scaled down and we would be worse off today if that were the case.

3. He needlessly hurt many people, and his tactics left much to be desired.

4. During the period of his greatest power, there were few if any people advocating mass transit not only in NY but in the entire US.

5. There is no proof that if the money he spent on roads would have been spent on transit if he were not so powerful. In fact much of the funding that went into building his roads and parks would have gone to cities other than New York. (At one point in the Power Broker, Caro makes the point that Moses even had money spent on roads and parks that the City would have spent on building new schools which were also sorely needed.)

6. That if there were someone like Moses advocating for mass transit at the same time Moses was in power (the original topic of this discussion), he would have had a very tough time competing for the same funds because of Moses' power. To succeed he would have had to have a similar personality to Moses which would mean that he would have built subway lines to suit his purposes which might not have been in the interests of the City as a whole.

Would you say this is a fair assessment of this discussion?

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