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Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 16 00:06:59 2007, in response to Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Feb 15 23:47:29 2007.

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And what did these parks turn into? Great places to smoke crack and get jumped.


Oh please.

Care to elaborate on his swimming pool policies? The South would have loved him.


Terrible, but unfortunately, that was the time too. It was before the 60's and the civil rights movement, anti-segregation laws, etc. As disgusting as stuff like that was, it was unfortunately the norm, especially the further back you go.

Eh? NYC was "successful" without those roads already—all port cities are inherent successes.

Of course. But that was 1800's New York. The rest of the country was changing to an automobile oriented society. The golden age of transit building was the late 1800's to about the 1920's. The golden age of road construction in this country was 1920 to the 1960's. New York would not be the city it is today with out it's roads and bridges, and NY is an extremely strong city.

Long Island is no place to visit, and you can't get around without the LIRR—due to his roads

Huh? You can't get to every point a to every point B with the LIRR.

So? The LIE is motionless. All that happened is you got more money spent on a road that would have been equally motionless.


The LIE is the lifeline of Long Island. ALl the traffic it DOES carry could not be absorbed by Jericho Turnpike and the Sunrise Highway (not to mention what moves on the parkways).

It would take forever to get across Brooklyn even with an expressway, which would take no car traffic off the Belt Parkway and only result in creating another jammed-up truck route.

The amount of traffic, cars/buses/trucks that DOES move on the BQE couldn't possibly be absorbed by Brooklyn's local roads, local roads that people must live and walk along. In addition, the sheer volume of traffic that moes on the Belt, etc.

No, he repeated fallacies.

Your assumptions are fallacies.

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