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Tuscarora Almanac for December 30 and a Forgotten Station |
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Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Tue Dec 30 08:28:21 2025 Tuscarora Almanac for December 30 and a Forgotten Station1938 – from The Book of Last Runs This is the last day for streetcar service in Malden, Massachusetts. 1946 – from The Book of First Runs The IND Fulton Street Line is extended one station from Rockaway Avenue to Broadway - East New York . 1965 – from The Book of First Runs The last four R-32’s (3946-3949) arrive on the property. They are equipped with the lightweight Pioneer III trucks. 1968 – from The Book of First Runs The first of the new M-1 “Metropolitan” MU cars begins service on the Long Island Railroad. 1987 – from The Book of Last Runs The last train of R-21 and R-22 cars operated today on the #5 Lexington Avenue Express. The consist was (S)7609,7097,7543,7078,7156,7173,7547,7558,7596,7165. U>Tuscarora Forgotten Station No. 4 / Wingdale Consolidated Rail Corporation Harlem Line Wingdale Station Abandoned: October 29, 1977 Once upon a time there were two train stations in Wingdale, New York. The first of these travelling from Grand Central Terminal was called “State Hospital” located at milepost 69. The second was “Wingdale” itself at milepost 69.08. The “State Hospital” station was situated on the ground of the Harlem Valley Psychiatric Center, an institution well known to local railfans. The “Wingdale” station located at the point where Pleasant Ridge Road crosses the railroad track. Conrail was the operator of the Harlem Line in 1977 and management decided to close the “Wingdale” station on October 29, 1977. The “State Hospital” was renamed “Harlem Valley-Wingdale” is today (2019) served by the Metro-North Railroad. Source: “The Coming of the New York and Harlem” (1989) by Mr. Louis V. Grogan Conrail Form 113 Harlem Line schedule effective June 28, 1976 Metro-North Railroad Harlem Line schedule effective April 24, 1983 |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 30 and a Forgotten Station |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 30 10:34:56 2025, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for December 30 and a Forgotten Station, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Tue Dec 30 08:28:21 2025. The first of these travelling from Grand Central Terminal was called “State Hospital” located at milepost 69. The second was “Wingdale” itself at milepost 69.08.That's bizarre. A distance of .08 miles is only 400 feet - about 5 car lengths. Even if they were both very short platforms there would hardly be any space between them. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 30 and a Forgotten Station |
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Posted by zac on Tue Dec 30 10:48:49 2025, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 30 and a Forgotten Station, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 30 10:34:56 2025. That's a mistake on the post. It is .8 miles. I've been driving up and down route 22 for over 30 years now and have never seen anybody on the campus of the old state hospital, even after it was finally sold to whatever evangelical group owns it now. It was first going to be some college operated by them, but now is just "Evangelical Center".After the state closed it, the speed limit going by it was 30mph for at least 20 years even though it was an empty space, where the rest of the road was 40 or 55. And it is funny how once a road is signed for something it almost never changes. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 30 and a Forgotten Station |
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Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Tue Dec 30 11:49:32 2025, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 30 and a Forgotten Station, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 30 10:34:56 2025. That's bizarre. A distance of .08 miles is only 400 feet - about 5 car lengths. Even if they were both very short platforms there would hardly be any space between them. There is a slight typo in there. It should read 69.8 not .08. However a did consult the Harlem Line Employee Timetable issued in February 1, 1971. The official mileage for "STATE HOSPITAL" (today's HARLEM VALLEY-WINGDALE) is 69.1. The mileage for "WINGDALE" is 69.7. IIRC the Wingdale station was simple a three sided shack by 1977. It was at the crossroads with Pleasant Ridge Road (NY Rt 21). Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 30 and a Forgotten Station |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Dec 30 18:35:18 2025, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for December 30 and a Forgotten Station, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Tue Dec 30 08:28:21 2025. That last R-21/22 5 train was probably the first such solid consist in a long time. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 30 and a Forgotten Station |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Dec 30 18:37:03 2025, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 30 and a Forgotten Station, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Dec 30 18:35:18 2025. Yep:On the (4) I would usually see mostly R-17s with one or two R-21/22 cars mixed in. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 30 and a Forgotten Station |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Dec 31 04:39:17 2025, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 30 and a Forgotten Station, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Dec 30 18:37:03 2025. For years, the only solid trains on the IT were the R-36s on the 7. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 30 and a Forgotten Station |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Dec 31 09:21:38 2025, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 30 and a Forgotten Station, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Dec 30 18:35:18 2025. They were always mixed in with every other SMEE IRT type |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 30 and a Forgotten Station |
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Posted by zac on Wed Dec 31 19:10:03 2025, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 30 and a Forgotten Station, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Dec 31 04:39:17 2025. Even those had an identical R33 single in the mix. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 30 and a Forgotten Station |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Jan 1 07:58:17 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 30 and a Forgotten Station, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Dec 31 09:21:38 2025. IRT yards had either GE-only cars or Westinghouse-only cars, except for Corona Yard. It mafe for tutti-frutti trains before the platinum mist-and-blue paint scheme took hold. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 30 and a Forgotten Station |
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Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Thu Jan 1 10:45:17 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 30 and a Forgotten Station, posted by zac on Wed Dec 31 19:10:03 2025. There are some more interesting examples of solid trains. When the R-12's were in service on the Third Avenue El they ran in solid four car trains. When the Willy B was closed in 1999 the was an "S" Shuttle service between Essex Street and Broad Street. They ran solid four car trains of R-40 M. During the General Overhaul period for the Flushing Line R-33 (MP) were sent over from the mainland to help cover the service. They ran in eleven cars train with their single unit brethren. This is the only time that I know of that this occurred. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 30 and a Forgotten Station |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Jan 1 12:43:01 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 30 and a Forgotten Station, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Thu Jan 1 10:45:17 2026. IINM they sent over a group of R-17s to fill in for the R-33 singles while they underwent GO. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 30 and a Forgotten Station |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jan 1 15:47:26 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 30 and a Forgotten Station, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Jan 1 12:43:01 2026. Also, I remember when they took off that single 11th car in the summertime since the TA could boast an all air conditioned fleet with the 10 paired cars. Those 10 cars were packed in the rush hr and not all those paired R36WFs had good air conditioning. Apparently it wasnt possible or practical to install A/C in those single cars. This practice went on for several years. One time I went out to Flushing Meadow park & walking the boardwalk over the Corona yard, all those single R33s would be sitting in the sun taking the summer off. |
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