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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Dec 17 20:02:11 2021 The modified front corrected the rakish look of the R-40's. (Coney Island yard - April 1969) A couple of new R-40M's enroute to NYC pause at Enola Yard in Harrisburg, PA (April 1969) New R-40M's made their splash on the (F) line seen here at Ditmas Ave. (undated photo) On the (N) Broadway Sea Beach line at 57th st & 7th Ave (April 9, 1969) On the (GG) Crosstown line at Hoyt - Schermerhorn Sts (May 15, 1969) Some made it out to the "east" seen here at Rockaway Pkwy on the (LL) Canarsie line. (June 16, 1969) #4300-01 on the (QJ) seen here at Lorimer St. (Aug 29, 1969) #4500 & #4487 were mis-mated for years until their mates could be repaired and returned to service. #4501 was invoked in the Roosevelt Ave collision in May of 1970. #4486 suffered severe damage at Sheepshead Bay in a collision with a crane. (Photo: Sept 1979) Here's #4487, #4486's mate also at Ave U. Assigned to the (D), I made the shot during a downpour at the Beverley Rd on the Brighton line. (August 1978) At West 5th St, three blocks from the West 8th St station, this broadside angle shows the abandoned lower level contrasting with the upper level still in use. Remember the Grumman 870 buses ? (October 1980) And we can where the lower and upper levels converge near the Ocean Pkwy station. (July 1978) Speaking of West 8th St, R-40M's sit beside IIRC the first set of R-68's assigned to the (D) line. (April 1986) The (KK) and later (K) was a BMT Eastern Div route that was eliminated years ago. But the (K) designation returned as an IND 8th Ave route. This was short lived and the (K) route bit the dust again. (Chamber St WTC - Dec 4,1988) The late 1980's G.O.H. extended their lives and were looking mighty good, seen here entering the Eastern Pkwy station on the (J) line. (Feb. 17, 1990)
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Posted by zac* on Fri Dec 17 20:20:30 2021, in response to [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Dec 17 20:02:11 2021.* Over the years they were frequently mixed with the R42s in trains, more so than with the slants.
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Posted by Train Dude* on Fri Dec 17 20:30:58 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by zac on Fri Dec 17 20:20:30 2021.* When the R40Ms were frequently run with R-38s and R-42s back in the late 60s and 70s they did so with no issue. When R-40 slants were run with any of the above, the #1 end doors were locked for safety reasons. Neither were particularly maintenance friendly .
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth* on Fri Dec 17 22:17:15 2021, in response to [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Dec 17 20:02:11 2021.* Fabulous Library of Shots Bill.
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Posted by LuchAAA* on Fri Dec 17 22:52:32 2021, in response to [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Dec 17 20:02:11 2021.* Thanks. I remember, when I was a kid in the 70's it was a treat to be a passenger on this trains, as they spent little time on the J, L, M lines. Or there were just one or two consists on each line. I don't think many employees or passengers miss these train.
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Posted by TransitChuckG* on Fri Dec 17 23:17:02 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Train Dude on Fri Dec 17 20:30:58 2021.* Thanks! That slant door thing.....
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train* on Fri Dec 17 23:40:14 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Dec 17 23:17:02 2021.* It fun to see the pix--particularly the front ends before they put up the extra framing. Peopleused to ride on the porcheswhen they were first running.
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth* on Fri Dec 17 23:44:42 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 17 22:52:32 2021.* IIRC the LL had 2 six car consists. The M & Jamaica lines had none. When the R42's came out, those 2 trains on the LL were sent to Jamaica Yd. to join the other R40M's. The Eastern Division then received R42's #'ed something like 4852 to 4922. Later when the R44's came out, The Eastern Division received additional R42's: 4923-4949.
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Posted by LuchAAA* on Sat Dec 18 00:51:48 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Dec 17 23:44:42 2021.* Thanks. I remember Thanksgiving 1977. We had neighbors who happened to work in an office building on Broadway so they invited us to the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade to watch from their office. I was excited........about taking the LL to the Broadway BMT. That's all I cared about. On the way home we had an R-42 on the LL. It was my first time on that train. If an adult asked me what floats I saw at the parade I couldn't tell them. The train was the real reason I wanted to go. I just didn't tell anyone of my hidden agenda.
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Sat Dec 18 08:14:47 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 18 00:51:48 2021.* On the way home we had an R-42 on the LL. It was my first time on that train. If an adult asked me what floats I saw at the parade I couldn't tell them. The train was the real reason I wanted to go. I just didn't tell anyone of my hidden agenda. That sort of reminds me when I was a kid when my dad brought the family to Radio City Music Hall to see a movie and Rockettes. I was only excited about riding the AB's to 34th St where we changed for and (F) to 47th-50th Sts. Bill Newkirk
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Sat Dec 18 08:17:36 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Dec 17 22:17:15 2021.* Fabulous Library of Shots Bill. Thanks Bill, consider it a Christmas present for your eyes ! Bill Newkirk
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Sat Dec 18 08:20:06 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by zac on Fri Dec 17 20:20:30 2021.* Over the years they were frequently mixed with the R42s in trains, more so than with the slants. Here's a good example of an 8 car train, the first pair R-42's.
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Posted by zac* on Sat Dec 18 08:48:50 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Dec 18 08:14:47 2021.* I remember one time my dad was taking me out to Shea to see the Dodgers play the Mets and we had really good seats. I was excited to go but was disappointed when I started walking towards the subway and he said no, the car is this way. The game though was still fun, Koufax was pitching. It wasn't the first or only time to Shea as a kid so it wasn't too disappointing to not ride the subway that time. In fact it may have been the only time I didn't take the subway to Shea, including to see The Beatles, game 5 of the '69 series, and Joe Namath and countless Mets games using the Bordens coupons on the sides of milk containers to sit in the upper deck. We learned pretty quickly that they didn't really check to see if you had 10 coupons, you just threw them in a bin. We'd have 2 real ones and then 8 cut outs from the rest of the carton. They were more looking to get people in the stands for weekday day games.
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Sat Dec 18 09:13:24 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by zac on Sat Dec 18 08:48:50 2021.* Sweet memories for us. Bill Newkirk
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33* on Sat Dec 18 10:49:47 2021, in response to [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Dec 17 20:02:11 2021.* Bill: One feature of the R-40's and R-42's that I liked was the original front roll sign. There was absolutely no doubt about what line the train was running on. Thank you for the great photos. Larry, RedbirdR33
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Sat Dec 18 12:03:45 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 17 22:52:32 2021.* I liked the 40M and believe it’s a handsome car
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Posted by R46 5636* on Sat Dec 18 12:12:40 2021, in response to [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Dec 17 20:02:11 2021.* Supposedly the R40M's were in overall better condition than the remaining fifty R42's in 2010 when the major SMEE retirement occured, however all of the R40Ms we're already scrapped before those R42's were saved and lived on for an entire additional decade. Just imagine in February of last year we had an R40M retirement trip, had different decisions been made in the past.
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Sat Dec 18 12:40:51 2021, in response to [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Dec 17 20:02:11 2021.* I hated them mixed in with the 42s pre-GOH because I liked being in cars that the lights went out over 3rd rail gaps. The 42s were the first that didn't
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Posted by TransitChuckG* on Sat Dec 18 12:56:31 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Dec 18 12:40:51 2021.* Good times, thanks!
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Posted by WayneJay* on Sat Dec 18 13:44:31 2021, in response to [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Dec 17 20:02:11 2021.* Awesome! Thanks for posting. Also, I'm digging the money shot that include the Grumman 870 bus.
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Posted by WayneJay* on Sat Dec 18 13:55:37 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by zac on Sat Dec 18 08:48:50 2021.* It wasn't the first or only time to Shea as a kid so it wasn't too disappointing to not ride the subway that time. In fact it may have been the only time I didn't take the subway to Shea, including to see The Beatles, It's funny that you say that. Until I was 9 y/o (about 1974) we lived near to West Farms Sq area. We used to often visit my aunt who lived on Light St near to Dyre Ave station. We'd take the #5 train which I absolutely loved, especially looking at the trains in the yard as we waited at E. 180th St. Then once the train left the station seeing all of the work trains and such just north of the station. Sometimes we'd get a ride home or if it was very late we'd take a cab home which was always a disappointment to me as I felt cheated out of a subway ride, lol
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Sat Dec 18 13:57:13 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by R46 5636 on Sat Dec 18 12:12:40 2021.* I thought of that too
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Sat Dec 18 14:00:46 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by WayneJay on Sat Dec 18 13:44:31 2021.* That’s good but so is the one in the downpour rain
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Posted by WayneJay* on Sat Dec 18 14:07:36 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Dec 18 08:14:47 2021.* Great memories. Growing up I live mostly in the west Bronx near to the Grand Concourse so of course the D was my "home line". I still remember my first ride on an IND train at about 10 y/o. We had just move near to Tremont - Concourse and one day I was going somewhere in midtown with my dad when a consist of R-42s arrived. I'm sure there was likely R-40Ms in the consist as well as that seemed to be the rule on the D from that time until they went for GOH. I think Concourse Yard had R-42s 4694-4807, and all or at least most of the R-40Ms. I remember that it was always a treat to see or ride 4764/65 as that pair retained their original blue interior until the clean car program of the mid/late 80s.
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Posted by LuchAAA* on Sat Dec 18 14:41:54 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Dec 18 08:14:47 2021.* Yup. Seems like a love of trains starts at a very young age.
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Posted by TransitChuckG* on Sat Dec 18 14:43:18 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by WayneJay on Sat Dec 18 13:55:37 2021.* Riding subways was a blast for me in Philadelphia.We only have 2 basic lines. I rode the Broad St. Line in 1950 with my mom, she taught at an elementary school in North Philadelphia. I was in the class next door, with Ms. Holtz Later on , I rode the BSS to college, rode to City Hall,transfered to the MFSE to 30th St. to Drexel U. NYC subways are fascinating, I went on many chartered trips, MOD trips, etc.
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Posted by WayneJay* on Sat Dec 18 14:55:44 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Dec 18 14:43:18 2021.* Ah! I enjoyed SEPTA subway rides too. My first ride on the MFL was back in the late 80s. I remember it was summer, the cars (I think the "Almond Joys???") car some powerful fans and were fast (and noisy) as heck. I remember at the time thinking they reminded me of NYCTA's R-10 with the speed and noise. Then some years later I rode the Broad St line for the first time. It was a weekday and we were on an express and I was amazed at the thrilling ride. What a rush!!!
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Posted by TransitChuckG* on Sat Dec 18 15:07:39 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by WayneJay on Sat Dec 18 14:55:44 2021.* Thank you, the BSS was cool, it made a different noise from Logan to Olney, NB it woke you out of your slumber!
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Posted by LuchAAA* on Sat Dec 18 15:25:37 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by WayneJay on Sat Dec 18 14:07:36 2021.* Did you ever railfan from the Bronx to Coney Island?
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Posted by TransitChuckG* on Sat Dec 18 15:26:02 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Dec 18 14:00:46 2021.* That’s good but so is the one in the downpour rain I agree.
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Posted by WayneJay* on Sat Dec 18 15:49:38 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 18 15:25:37 2021.* Yup! Lots of times as I absolutely loved that my home line was the Brighton Express. Eventually, I'd start going down to Cony Island on the other lines which was usually on the weekend. I like the Culver, but I loved the 4th Ave express, and since there was no Brighton Express service on weekends... I usually rode one of the other lines. My fav on the weekends was N/B on the N for the 4th Ave express and Bway express.
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Posted by WayneJay* on Sat Dec 18 15:53:47 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Dec 18 14:00:46 2021.* Yes, I they're great pics. I just liked that the photographer also captured the bus.
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Sat Dec 18 16:47:22 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Dec 18 14:00:46 2021.* That’s good but so is the one in the downpour rain Same station, same day looking the other way. (Aug 1978)
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Posted by TransitChuckG* on Sat Dec 18 16:49:22 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Dec 18 16:47:22 2021.* Great photo!
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Sat Dec 18 16:53:04 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 18 14:41:54 2021.* Yup. Seems like a love of trains starts at a very young age. My family and I once lived on Eastern Pkwy near the New Lots line. My earliest subway memory was riding with my family on the Lo-V's that plied that line. I was mystified by all the people entering and exiting through that dark vestibule at the end of the car. Bill Newkirk
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Sat Dec 18 16:56:56 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by WayneJay on Sat Dec 18 13:44:31 2021.* Awesome! Thanks for posting. Also, I'm digging the money shot that include the Grumman 870 bus. The Grumman 870 wa short lived due to their problems. Rohr handed Grumman a lemon and Grumman got stuck holding the bag. Bill Newkirk
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Sat Dec 18 16:58:10 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Dec 18 16:49:22 2021.* Great photo! Thanks, since I was under then station canopy, I stayed dry. Bill Newkirk
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Posted by LuchAAA* on Sat Dec 18 17:01:28 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Dec 18 16:53:04 2021.* That's a nice memory. That's also a nice line. IRT Brooklyn. I think the 3 is the best line in the IRT.
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Posted by TransitChuckG* on Sat Dec 18 17:08:41 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Dec 18 16:58:10 2021.* Good for you,Bill Newkirk
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Posted by TransitChuckG* on Sat Dec 18 17:09:30 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Dec 18 16:56:56 2021.* Yes, those buses had problems.
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Posted by zac* on Sat Dec 18 17:09:53 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Dec 18 16:53:04 2021.* I remember my aunt telling me we were going to take the "fast express" from Franklin to Utica. It was a train of Low-vs and probably around 1958 or '59. My grandmother lived on Sheffield Ave and Livonia and we'd go to Pennsylvania Ave stop of course. Fortunoffs was a regular stop when we went there too.
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Posted by zac* on Sat Dec 18 17:19:06 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by zac on Sat Dec 18 17:09:53 2021.* I should add that to this day I've never gone past Pennsylvania Ave out to New Lots. It is one of the last sections of the subway I've never been to. Lefferts was another but on the "goodbye to the R42" day I got off at Euclid at the end of the run and said what the hell, let me go out there. Jamaica Center and 148th/Lenox are the other 2 places I've never been, and I'm not sure I've been to 207th although I know I've been to Dyckman more than once.
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Posted by Joe V* on Sat Dec 18 17:21:13 2021, in response to [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Dec 17 20:02:11 2021.* Does the so-called R41 pair still exist ?
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Posted by LuchAAA* on Sat Dec 18 17:32:36 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by zac on Sat Dec 18 17:19:06 2021.* I like New Lots terminal. Jamaica Center is nothing special. Lenox is another terminal worth visiting.
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Posted by Joe V* on Sat Dec 18 17:51:30 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Dec 18 17:09:30 2021.* New Jersey, both NJT and the privates, got half of them and they ran into the 1990's. Trans Bridge once in a while pressed one into service on the Doylestown - PABT US202 route. Usually their 3 ran in Phillipsburg - Easton local service.
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Sat Dec 18 17:59:43 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 18 14:41:54 2021.* My memories were the Sea Beach, West End, 4th Avenue Locals. The R1-9s on the Culver Line too.
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Posted by WayneJay* on Sat Dec 18 18:18:11 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Dec 18 16:47:22 2021.* Love it!
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Sat Dec 18 18:22:06 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Dec 18 12:03:45 2021.* Handsom yes, but like the slants, gawdawful uncomfortable seats!
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Posted by Pelham Exp* on Sat Dec 18 18:23:27 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Dec 18 16:56:56 2021.* Still my Favorite Bus.. The TA gave up on them to early.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Sat Dec 18 18:53:30 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 18 17:51:30 2021.* They ran into early 2000s on ONE Bus (routes 12, 24 and 44) before Roach USA gobbled them up and brought in the RTS 1538s. (ONE ran some rebuilt Fishbowls alongside them in the mid-1990s, which was very cool.)
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