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Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line

Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Thu Nov 7 13:47:31 2019

Letís not let them collapse and delay service.

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Re: Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line

Posted by The silence on Thu Nov 7 15:43:29 2019, in response to Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Thu Nov 7 13:47:31 2019.

The Buildings Department...

Bureaucracy at its finest.

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Re: Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line

Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Nov 7 18:49:38 2019, in response to Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Thu Nov 7 13:47:31 2019.

Lord have mercy

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Re: Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line

Posted by zac on Thu Nov 7 20:36:00 2019, in response to Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Thu Nov 7 13:47:31 2019.

http://web.mta.info/mta/compliance/pdf/2016_annual/Property_List_12-31-2016.pdf

The easements that belong to the MTA. Pages 24 and 25 are along the Brighton line.

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Re: Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line

Posted by Steamdriven on Thu Nov 7 21:46:22 2019, in response to Re: Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line, posted by zac on Thu Nov 7 20:36:00 2019.

Net, they're demanding homeowners inspect and fix MTA property, right?

aaand, how are they expected to walk the subway ROW to do the inspection? That's trespassing, and also suicidal. Is this just a campaign to harass the abutters?

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Re: Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line

Posted by The Silence on Thu Nov 7 22:04:10 2019, in response to Re: Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line, posted by Steamdriven on Thu Nov 7 21:46:22 2019.

the genus in the Department of Buildings said the inspectors could just lean over the side.

Talk about doubling down on stupid...

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Re: Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Nov 7 22:30:35 2019, in response to Re: Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line, posted by The Silence on Thu Nov 7 22:04:10 2019.

Somebody must have eaten a bunch of stupid pills.

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Re: Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Nov 8 01:11:27 2019, in response to Re: Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Nov 7 22:30:35 2019.

Nah, upper management was too lazy/busy to check/deal with extenuating circumstances.

Edict comes from higher-ups to send letters.
Low level employee: "But what if someone else owns the wall?"
Employee's manager: "Just send the letters, let the administrators and politicians deal with it. We're not paid enough to think."

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Re: Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line

Posted by Bill West on Fri Nov 8 03:36:13 2019, in response to Re: Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line, posted by 3-9 on Fri Nov 8 01:11:27 2019.

Or it could be a field checker so wet behind the ears that he thinks the subway came first and the housing developer built the wall.

Then it could be the office clerk who looked the address up to find the owner but was so short sighted that they didn't notice the easement to MTA in the land title.

I think a suitable owner's reply would be to mention that a hundred years ago he sub-arranged for a patrol several times a week and has a full time engineering staff overseeing it. They are doing this far more frequently than every 5 years so please contact 2 Broadway, Manhattan to get the latest report.

Bill


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Re: Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line

Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Nov 8 07:31:31 2019, in response to Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Thu Nov 7 13:47:31 2019.

I read the article. All I can say is "that's insane".

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Re: Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line

Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Fri Nov 8 08:30:19 2019, in response to Re: Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line, posted by Steamdriven on Thu Nov 7 21:46:22 2019.

Homeowner will have to pay for their inspector to take the track class then pay for flagging during the inspection I would assume.

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Re: Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line

Posted by The Silence on Fri Nov 8 09:52:36 2019, in response to Re: Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line, posted by Bill West on Fri Nov 8 03:36:13 2019.

The article says it's because the idiots at DoB classify the subway as a "public right of way", which makes me want to slam my head into something.

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Re: Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line

Posted by The Silence on Fri Nov 8 09:54:50 2019, in response to Re: Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Nov 8 07:31:31 2019.

It's the city, it's par for the course with some of these people.

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Re: Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line

Posted by vfrt on Fri Nov 8 10:10:26 2019, in response to Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Thu Nov 7 13:47:31 2019.

Some of the MTA properties have easements with the exact same block and lot numbers as the private property owners. This is why we have lawyers.


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Re: Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line

Posted by The Silence on Fri Nov 8 10:30:14 2019, in response to Re: Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line, posted by vfrt on Fri Nov 8 10:10:26 2019.

But an easement is not the same thing as a public right of way.

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Re: Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Nov 8 11:00:09 2019, in response to Re: Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line, posted by The Silence on Fri Nov 8 09:52:36 2019.

The city still owns all the tracks, tunnels, rights-of-way, and structures of the subway system (this is why the old LIRR Rockaway Branch north of Liberty Avenue was never demolished and developed; the city got it from the railroad along with today's tracks to the Peninsula). The kicker is, that means the city (through it's portion of the MTA) is responsible for maintaining the retaining walls, as others here have pointed out

Of course, if I owned a home next to the Brighton tracks, I would tell the city to redirect their correspondence on this matter to:

The Brooklyn Rapid Transit Company
44 Court Street
Brooklyn, NY

😂😂😂😂😂

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Re: Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line

Posted by Bill West on Fri Nov 8 16:15:54 2019, in response to Re: Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Nov 8 11:00:09 2019.

Silence, it is public ROW. The issue is that despite the resident being the owner of the underlying land, the government is the party that inherited the wall and thus is ultimately responsible for any risks it poses. This is where DOB didn't look far enough to see that it is inappropriate to hold the landowner responsible for risks his tenant's wall poses to the City when the City( DOB's boss) is that tenant.

Then again a Canadian friend mentioned his Federal Fisheries Ministry's "fish protection" staff prosecuting the ministry's own "fish development" staff over a hatchery construction project. They had too narrow a focus to just talk about it through their common boss.

Bill

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Re: Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line

Posted by Steamdriven on Fri Nov 8 18:41:06 2019, in response to Re: Retaining wall drama along the Brighton line, posted by The Silence on Thu Nov 7 22:04:10 2019.

and then the inspector would be arrested for that on some pretext, followed by the homeowner being fined for an inadequate inspection.
Is it stupidity, or is it an excuse to harass Kulaks homeowners?
Probably more of stupidity, but in today's NYC I wouldn't rule out the latter.

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