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Posted by Dupont Circle Station on Wed Jun 19 15:05:15 2019, in response to Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Sat Jun 15 19:57:38 2019. Heya, Fred! Long time no see! |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jun 19 16:35:42 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Wed Jun 19 12:46:30 2019. The only time the N runs via tunnel is during the late hours. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jun 19 16:36:26 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Wed Jun 19 11:21:16 2019. You mean they're still making roof repairs along 4th Ave? |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jun 19 16:43:05 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Wed Jun 19 12:42:19 2019. Sadly, I've never ridden on them, even the museum units. |
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Posted by VictorM on Wed Jun 19 18:30:31 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jun 19 16:36:26 2019. Yes, the structural problems turned out to be worse than they first estimated. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Wed Jun 19 19:17:07 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jun 19 16:43:05 2019. Hope you get a chance to, as long as the museum units remain in good condition.Have you ever ridden AB's - either in regular service, or the museum B-type unit? Hope so! |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Jun 20 10:39:53 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by VictorM on Wed Jun 19 18:30:31 2019. I was wondering about the status of that job... |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Jun 20 16:34:02 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Express Rider on Wed Jun 19 19:17:07 2019. I rode on the BMT standards on the Lonesome Larry every Saturday during their final two years of service. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Fri Jun 21 00:30:04 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Jun 20 16:34:02 2019. That's good. When were they finally removed? Was it sometime in 1969 or later? |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Jun 21 02:30:55 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Express Rider on Fri Jun 21 00:30:04 2019. That's good. When were they finally removed? Was it sometime in 1969 or later?August 4, 1969. Myrtle-Chambers Line. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Fri Jun 21 04:03:08 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Express Rider on Fri Jun 21 00:30:04 2019. Here's the report: Tuscarora Almanac - August 4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs Brooklyn, New York New York City Transit Authority BMT Division This is the last day of operation the 67 foot Standards. The fleet was once 950 cars strong and dominated the rapid transit lines of the Brooklyn - Manhattan Transit Company. The last train ran on the “M” Myrtle Avenue-Nassau St Line (BMT Rt.10) leaving Metropolitan Avenue at 4:49 PM and Broad Street at 5:26 PM. The train consisted of two “B” Type three car units, (S) 2531-2-3, 2466-2649-2467. Source: New York Division Bulletin /August 1969 Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Jun 21 10:06:11 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 19 10:27:23 2019. I also liked the R46s when new. Now, they strike me as lumbering and slow- as having outlived their day. Maybe that's because I usually see them on the R.In any event, once in a while, and especially if the air conditioning is really cranked up, a bit of their original ambiance, and (this may seem crazy) unique smell is present, and I'm transported back to 1976. Otherwise, when I think of R46s, I think of drag-assing from City Hall to Canal, a long hold in Canal, and the front 2 cars going dark (happens on R160s and Arnines as well) due to a local power issue. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jun 21 12:52:55 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Jun 21 02:30:55 2019. That was probably the same train I had the good fortune to operate on the 14 St Line about a month earlier. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 21 15:36:41 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Fri Jun 21 04:03:08 2019. And supposedly that was the last operable train of standards in Fresh Pond Yard. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Jun 21 15:58:58 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by randyo on Fri Jun 21 12:52:55 2019. According to Steve Zabel, this is the last A-B in service - going into the yard for layup. 
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Posted by 3-9 on Sat Jun 22 07:26:09 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Jun 21 10:06:11 2019. Interesting. I see them on the F sometimes, so I have a somewhat different opinion - old, but still good. The smell and sound are very different from when they were new, though. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat Jun 22 11:15:47 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Jun 21 10:06:11 2019. I Know!The R killed them,for sure,but I still love'em. The day the R first received the 46s was somewhat of a blessing,though. Everything on that line was the worst of the worst. The swap meant new cars for the N since it became sole responsibility of Stillwell and the big R68s. The R received the N former rolling stock which was anything out of Jamaica Yard that was able to make service. However,I loved seeing the 46s on the G. Kinda felt they sorta belonged there. To this day,I DON'T like the 68s. Bland,sterilized atmosphere with a lumbering lurching feel that kills any railfaning affection. If the railfan window was still available,THAT would have been its saving grace. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Sat Jun 22 13:53:57 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Edwards! on Sat Jun 22 11:15:47 2019. Agree completely. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jun 22 16:31:25 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Edwards! on Sat Jun 22 11:15:47 2019. Back when the R-68s were new, and before they were linked, once in a while you'd get a train whose lead motor had the half cab facing out. Talk about the ultimate RFW view! |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sat Jun 22 18:25:38 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Jun 21 10:06:11 2019. strike me as lumbering and slowI mostly ride and see them on the A line, an express line and feel the same way. I much prefer the 179s & 32s on the A. I'd still rather have a 46 on the F rather than the 160's as crazy as it may sound lol. I know when the 211s come and start dominating the A line I'm gonna start to prefer the 46s over the NTT, just an weird railfan quirk. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jun 22 18:39:47 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Edwards! on Sat Jun 22 11:15:47 2019. When the R46's were taken off the G, there wasn't one crew who were happy. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jun 22 18:41:05 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Jun 21 10:06:11 2019. The front 2 cars go "dark" (but they do have emergency lights) at Canal simply because of a third rail gap. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jun 23 10:34:34 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jun 22 18:41:05 2019. That’s correct. Prior to platform lengthening, there was no problem since the entire station ended before the gap. When the platform was lengthened, the north cars were right at the gap so they would go dark. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jun 23 13:23:38 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jun 22 16:31:25 2019. I remember that! |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Mon Jun 24 05:41:59 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Edwards! on Sat Jun 22 11:15:47 2019. Agreed 100%I liked the 46's when the way they were delivered. I liked the blue stripe, the flush door in the front, the front with the black section and i liked the yellow & white letter for the N. When they changed it to yellow and black in my opinion it did not look as esthetic |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Jun 24 07:59:28 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jun 22 18:39:47 2019. I can understand.They NEED to swap out those 68s for 160s,or just bring back the 46s. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Jun 24 08:32:48 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jun 22 18:39:47 2019. I don't blame them. R-46 has a smoother ride, better T/O seat and great cab heat in the winter. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 24 09:05:07 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Jun 24 08:32:48 2019. Pullman-Standard built a good car. Same can be said of the Amtrak Superliners. Shame they soon thereafter they went out of business. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Jun 24 12:28:45 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by rbseabeach on Mon Jun 24 05:41:59 2019. The problem with the N, Q, R, W letters is that when the original color was selected for the N, the background color was more of a gold which showed up the white letter better. The supposed story was that the contractor selected for the group of signs for the new color schemes was unable to supply an actual gold color and substituted yellow. Since white on yellow was difficult to see, the decision was made top have black letters on the yellow instead. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 24 12:34:21 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by rbseabeach on Mon Jun 24 05:41:59 2019. I agree about the white letter. It's also inconsistent. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 24 12:34:56 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by randyo on Mon Jun 24 12:28:45 2019. A few years back I saw a service change poster that had an N bullet with a white letter. Much nicer looking. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 24 13:05:44 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by randyo on Mon Jun 24 12:28:45 2019. Many moons ago, the color-keyed LIRR branch schedules had their font in that color as well. The Hempstead Branch schedule was hard to read. This could be an ADA reg for all I know. Didn't they have to change the enameled station signs to be white font on black background ? |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Mon Jun 24 13:34:46 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by randyo on Mon Jun 24 12:28:45 2019. thank youi like yellow & white I honestly do not like the gold and black. IIRC the yellow & white N was on the 42 & 32 as well as the 44 & 46 |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Mon Jun 24 13:36:02 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 24 12:34:56 2019. thank you i thought i was the only one who preferred the yellow & white instead of gold & black |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Mon Jun 24 13:38:57 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 24 12:34:21 2019. YES! When the 68's were new and I saw the gold and black for the first time. I knew there was something I did not like about the 68 vs 46. The other was the recessed door of the 68 vs the flush one of the 46. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Mon Jun 24 13:40:16 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by randyo on Mon Jun 24 12:28:45 2019. Didn't the 6 also have the yellow & white? |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Mon Jun 24 13:53:18 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by randyo on Mon Jun 24 12:28:45 2019. just looked up some historical maps.in 1972 it was yellow and white by 1974 it was more of a gold and black! But then how was the 46 delivered in 1976 yellow and white? |
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Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Tue Jun 25 05:14:15 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 24 13:05:44 2019. For the visually impaired.Vignielli didn't account for that when he made his master plan for redesigning the maps and signage. |
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Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Tue Jun 25 05:38:11 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jun 23 13:23:38 2019. I remember AND miss that....! |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Jun 25 08:19:25 2019, in response to Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Sat Jun 15 19:57:38 2019. Darn, I am just looking at this - - I guess we will have to meet again in September - - glad that you came and saw the new look Sea Beach line. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Jun 25 12:18:31 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by rbseabeach on Mon Jun 24 13:34:46 2019. If the background were gold then the letter could be white. The reason for the black letter is that the sign manufacturer was supposedly only able to supply yellow. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Jun 25 12:19:20 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by rbseabeach on Mon Jun 24 13:40:16 2019. Initially, yes, but it wasn’t yellow it was more of a gold which made the white show up OK. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Wed Jun 26 04:24:22 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by randyo on Sun Jun 23 10:34:34 2019. i love that! very model train layout-like. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Wed Jun 26 10:39:56 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by randyo on Tue Jun 25 12:19:20 2019. ok thank you |
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