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Posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Sat Jun 15 19:57:38 2019 Just got back from New York on Friday and the highlight was, of course, riding my Sea Beach train and looking at all the improvements on the line----FINALLY AT LONG LAST. The stations on the Manhattan bound trains ran local in the open cuts stations as all of them have been reworked and the y look good. The Coney Island bound ones pretty much passed most of the stations past 59th street as rehabbing is still going on. Even those mini tunnels have been reworked and repainted. It was a pleasant site to see. I hope if they catch any assholes trying to graffiti those stations get a taste of some serious knuckle sandwiches and a few broken bones and teeth. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Jun 16 01:59:58 2019, in response to Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Sat Jun 15 19:57:38 2019. Hey Fred, a voice from the past, speaks !You should have announced your Big Apple visit, some of us would loved to tag along. Glad you like the rebirth of your Sea Beach line. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by italianguyinsi on Sun Jun 16 05:18:44 2019, in response to Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Sat Jun 15 19:57:38 2019. Wow Fred. Long time, no see.Yes, many changes to the 104 year old line; "NTT" trains and the elimination of the 4th track N/B of Kings Highway, but all in all a nice line. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Jun 16 05:58:12 2019, in response to Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Sat Jun 15 19:57:38 2019. See? I told you your favorite line is finally getting a much-needed extreme makeover.:) |
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Posted by George Foelschow on Sun Jun 16 10:28:37 2019, in response to Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Sat Jun 15 19:57:38 2019. Fred, it's good to hear from you. When we last met up in New York some years ago, we rode the Sea Beach line during the period when it terminated at 86th Street in Brooklyn. I'm glad that "your" line has been rehabbed. |
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Posted by Mr RT on Sun Jun 16 17:38:33 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Jun 16 01:59:58 2019. I 2nd that, it's been too long since a "Field Trip" in the system. |
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Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Mon Jun 17 04:55:55 2019, in response to Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Sat Jun 15 19:57:38 2019. Look closer Fred, the water still leaks behind the new fancy walls at most stations. Puddles on the platform in many places. Mostly a cosmetic job if you ask me. |
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Posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Mon Jun 17 09:21:42 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Jun 16 01:59:58 2019. Liked it a lot......and about time, don't you think? I was impressed with what I saw and I will like it a lot better when all the work is completed. I took the trip with my wife LInda and it was a baseball tour that took us to Boston, Cooperstown and New York so I didn't know I would have time to meet up with any of my old rail fan buddies. As it turned out Linda wanted to shop in NY and I did have the time and I took advantage of it and rode my train and others, and also rode the Cyclone at Coney Island. They have really fixed CI up. It looks real nice now. About time on that too. Good to hear from you Bill. |
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Posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Mon Jun 17 09:24:09 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Mr RT on Sun Jun 16 17:38:33 2019. Right RT!!!! Just when are they going to resume those field trips I had such a blast on early in this century? That would be a real kick. Love to ride those old cars again. |
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Posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Mon Jun 17 09:26:47 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by italianguyinsi on Sun Jun 16 05:18:44 2019. One of these piasan I'm going to say that I'm back on here to stay and really mean it. I do miss a lot of you guys but for the past decade or so my main focus on the various boards has been my beloved Red Sox. Maybe this time I will mean what I say. |
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Posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Mon Jun 17 09:29:42 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Jun 16 05:58:12 2019. Well it was worth seeing Steve but I got a kick in the pants when I tried to transfer from the 62nd St. West End Station downstairs to the Sea Beach line only to find out that repair work and closed the New Utrecht entrance to my train and forced me to walk a ways to catch up to the Sea Beach. Fortunately the guy in charge let me go through the door and not have to pay another $3.00 for the privilege of riding the "N" to Coney Island. |
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Posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Mon Jun 17 09:29:42 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Jun 16 05:58:12 2019. Well it was worth seeing Steve but I got a kick in the pants when I tried to transfer from the 62nd St. West End Station downstairs to the Sea Beach line only to find out that repair work and closed the New Utrecht entrance to my train and forced me to walk a ways to catch up to the Sea Beach. Fortunately the guy in charge let me go through the door and not have to pay another $3.00 for the privilege of riding the "N" to Coney Island. |
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Posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Mon Jun 17 09:32:26 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by George Foelschow on Sun Jun 16 10:28:37 2019. Yes, I remember that well George and what a bummer that was. Hel, riding the Sea Beach in Brooklyn without getting it to Coney Island is like taking a bath with your clothes on. Much better this time. Man, I wish they would start having those field trips on those old cars again--especially by beloved Triplexes. |
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Posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Mon Jun 17 09:32:26 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by George Foelschow on Sun Jun 16 10:28:37 2019. Yes, I remember that well George and what a bummer that was. Hel, riding the Sea Beach in Brooklyn without getting it to Coney Island is like taking a bath with your clothes on. Much better this time. Man, I wish they would start having those field trips on those old cars again--especially by beloved Triplexes. |
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Posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Mon Jun 17 09:35:48 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Mon Jun 17 04:55:55 2019. Well Lou, compared to what they were before the rebab work I probably was looking at it through roseate glasses. Hopefully they will notice those problems and rectify it. To be honest, just about anything was preferable to what those stations looked like before the work began. It used to piss me off royally to see some of the stations on the other BMT Lines looking spiffy while those on my favorite line looked more like Berlin and Tokyo did in 1945. |
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Posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Mon Jun 17 09:35:48 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Mon Jun 17 04:55:55 2019. Well Lou, compared to what they were before the rebab work I probably was looking at it through roseate glasses. Hopefully they will notice those problems and rectify it. To be honest, just about anything was preferable to what those stations looked like before the work began. It used to piss me off royally to see some of the stations on the other BMT Lines looking spiffy while those on my favorite line looked more like Berlin and Tokyo did in 1945. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jun 17 11:27:39 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Mon Jun 17 09:24:09 2019. Love to ride those old cars again.Then come back at years end and ride the "Shoppers Special" that plies the 6th Ave line using R1/9 cars. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jun 17 11:31:03 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Mon Jun 17 09:29:42 2019. Well it was worth seeing Steve but I got a kick in the pants when I tried to transfer from the 62nd St. West End Station downstairs to the Sea Beach line only to find out that repair work and closed the New Utrecht entrance to my train and forced me to walk a ways to catch up to the Sea Beach. Fortunately the guy in charge let me go through the door and not have to pay another $3.00 for the privilege of riding the "N" to Coney Island.They're installing ADA elevators and other work at that end. There's a Metrocard transfer, but you have to walk all the way around to the fare controls at the opposite end of New Utrecht Ave station. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Mon Jun 17 11:35:46 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Mon Jun 17 09:35:48 2019. I hope you saw the re opened 7th Avenue Entrance @ 8th Avenue!it was closed for over 40 years. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jun 17 11:42:12 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Mon Jun 17 09:21:42 2019. 
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Posted by 3-9 on Mon Jun 17 12:08:12 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Mon Jun 17 09:21:42 2019. They fixed CI up, but I miss little things like the Astrotower and the walkway from the boardwalk to the West 8th St station. All gone.The Sea Beach line still needs that bracing to prevent the walls from collapsing, so it's not that great. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Mon Jun 17 12:27:10 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by 3-9 on Mon Jun 17 12:08:12 2019. that walkway was great especially for the disabled.CI is getting better & better more people come and they take down this walkway? it made no sense |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 17 12:46:34 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by rbseabeach on Mon Jun 17 12:27:10 2019. IAWTP. And then the Zero Vision idiots will complain about injuries from pedestrians crossing Surf Avenue. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Mon Jun 17 14:03:05 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 17 12:46:34 2019. YES! |
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Posted by 3-9 on Mon Jun 17 14:06:15 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 17 12:46:34 2019. It made perfect sense to take down the walkway - IF you were a business owner around the Coney Island terminal! After the new businesses moved into the terminal area, they started clamoring to take down the walkway, because people who were going to the beach were getting off at W 8th St and using the more convenient walkway. It didn't help that the walkway was dilapidated - the NY Aquarium paint was peeling and the side stairs were closed due to poor condition. The NY Aquarium didn't want to pay for repairing it, and the MTA didn't want to pay either. So one Sunday morning, a crew came by and removed the portion over Surf Ave, citing safety concerns (shades of the Thunderbolt). The remainder was closed off, and after the season was over, the remainder was demolished. The only evidence now is the bandshell-like entrance at the F train's uptown platform, which now goes nowhere. It took them a year? 2 years? before the city modified one of the boardwalk's entrances to better allow people to get to W 8th St, as a concession, instead of going through the Aquarium parking lot (PITA).Google Maps still has pictures of it: |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 17 14:21:51 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by 3-9 on Mon Jun 17 14:06:15 2019. So the business owners wanted a Breezewood. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Jun 18 12:14:54 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Jun 16 01:59:58 2019. Gotta admit.Don't ride the subways as much as I once did. Its not the same from a railfan point of view anymore. Railcars are so germain Now..with all the same blandness repeated. Even the new stations were just more of the same. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Jun 18 12:16:53 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Jun 16 01:59:58 2019. Gotta admit.Don't ride the subways as much as I once did. Its not the same from a railfan point of view anymore. Railcars are so germain Now..with all the same blandness repeated. Even the new stations were just more of the same. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 18 13:27:07 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Edwards! on Tue Jun 18 12:14:54 2019. IAWTP. The subways and commuter railroads have lost some of their character IMO, though the quality of the ride is a bit better. |
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Posted by express rider on Tue Jun 18 13:32:59 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Edwards! on Tue Jun 18 12:14:54 2019. and of course no RFW except for the 32's |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Jun 18 13:52:18 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by express rider on Tue Jun 18 13:32:59 2019. And those few will soon be gone. |
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Posted by express rider on Tue Jun 18 13:54:52 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by randyo on Tue Jun 18 13:52:18 2019. :(any idea how longer they will be in service? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 18 14:01:40 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by express rider on Tue Jun 18 13:54:52 2019. Till the R-211 enters service? |
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Posted by Brightonr68 on Tue Jun 18 14:11:36 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Edwards! on Tue Jun 18 12:14:54 2019. You would love the metro in Prague . Every station has different design |
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Posted by VictorM on Tue Jun 18 16:46:56 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 18 14:01:40 2019. If they decide to make the C full length (600 ft), there probably wouldn't be enough full length R46's and R179's to completely fill out the A and C so they would have to keep a few 10-car R32's running on those lines until the R211's arrive. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jun 18 17:30:15 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jun 17 11:42:12 2019. I remember riding on R-46 N trans back then. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jun 19 02:40:34 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Mon Jun 17 09:26:47 2019. Ah c'mon, stick around!! Your N train is once again express on Broadway and 4th Avenue! |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jun 19 02:48:58 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Edwards! on Tue Jun 18 12:16:53 2019. Gotta admit.Don't ride the subways as much as I once did. Its not the same from a railfan point of view anymore. Railcars are so germain Now..with all the same blandness repeated. Even the new stations were just more of the same. Totally agree. At least we had much more variety in rolling stock. And the stations and signage were original, yet aged and grungy. I kinda miss the old days. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Wed Jun 19 05:45:40 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jun 19 02:48:58 2019. Totally agree. At least we had much more variety in rolling stock. And the stations and signage were original, yet aged and grungy. I kinda miss the old days. Bill: I like a lot of the new cars, especially on the IRT. I do miss the old cars like the Lo-V's and the great Redbirds, not to mention the PCC's on the Newark City Subway. I miss my youth too but I can't get that back either. There's always something new and exciting on the transit scene and the one place that we all are going to is into the future. PS Thanks again for keeping the memories alive with your calendars. This months issue has a full ten car train of Lo-V's on the White Plains Road Line. Now that was a class act. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jun 19 07:04:30 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Wed Jun 19 05:45:40 2019. PS Thanks again for keeping the memories alive with your calendars. This months issue has a full ten car train of Lo-V's on the White Plains Road Line. Now that was a class act.Larry, RedbirdR33 Thanks Larry, 2020 calendar is in the works. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Jun 19 08:50:44 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jun 18 17:30:15 2019. Is the "N" running any faster under 4th Ave? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 19 10:27:23 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jun 18 17:30:15 2019. Sweet.For some reason those cars were my all time favorites. They gave a big railroad feel to whatever routes operated on. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 19 10:58:19 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 18 13:27:07 2019. Yup.I KNOW the 'wonder what I'm gonna ride today' feeling is somewhat still there,but when you have a general idea that this particular line has x amount of these cars,or fitted out completely with said cars.. It's all good. Still get the occasional ride in just to fan,or to do a non motor car day. Still get a kick outta Any Rockaway trip. Nothing can beat the R10s for that....but it's still worth doing anyday. |
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Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Wed Jun 19 11:21:16 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jun 19 02:40:34 2019. I wish. It still makes local stops at 45th and 53rd in both directions, at least until next month and possibly through the first quarter of 2020. Those two stops make a huge difference, especially southbound because the N is often held outside 36th for several minutes before switching to the local tracks. |
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Posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Wed Jun 19 12:42:19 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 19 10:27:23 2019. I go way backj farther than most of you compliments of my agin g process and to me thaere was nothing like the Triples cars. They were big and powerful and when they reved u p they could really run the tracks with power. I miss those every I come to New York and ride either the Sea Beach or the Brighton. |
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Posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Wed Jun 19 12:46:30 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jun 19 02:40:34 2019. Main---as you can see I am trying to stick around this time. I got bummed out when I looked at the Subway Map I got when I came to New York because it showed the Sea Beach going under the river into the rat infested Montague Tunnel instead of over the Manny B and I geared myself up for a long boring ride into Brooklyn. To my surprise soon after we left Canal Street the train suddenly got very light and I said d"O shit", we are express. One of my high lights from my trip. NOW JUST KEEP THE TRAIN THERE AND BARF CAN THE LOCAL RUN AND THAT SHITHEAD TUNNEL. |
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Posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Wed Jun 19 12:46:30 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jun 19 02:40:34 2019. Main---as you can see I am trying to stick around this time. I got bummed out when I looked at the Subway Map I got when I came to New York because it showed the Sea Beach going under the river into the rat infested Montague Tunnel instead of over the Manny B and I geared myself up for a long boring ride into Brooklyn. To my surprise soon after we left Canal Street the train suddenly got very light and I said d"O shit", we are express. One of my high lights from my trip. NOW JUST KEEP THE TRAIN THERE AND BARF CAN THE LOCAL RUN AND THAT SHITHEAD TUNNEL. |
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Posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Wed Jun 19 12:46:40 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jun 19 02:40:34 2019. Main---as you can see I am trying to stick around this time. I got bummed out when I looked at the Subway Map I got when I came to New York because it showed the Sea Beach going under the river into the rat infested Montague Tunnel instead of over the Manny B and I geared myself up for a long boring ride into Brooklyn. To my surprise soon after we left Canal Street the train suddenly got very light and I said d"O shit", we are express. One of my high lights from my trip. NOW JUST KEEP THE TRAIN THERE AND BARF CAN THE LOCAL RUN AND THAT SHITHEAD TUNNEL. |
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Posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Wed Jun 19 12:49:14 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Wed Jun 19 11:21:16 2019. That did happen once on my four jaunts on the Sea Beach, but the other three times there was no hold up whatsoever.....so Iguess I lucked out there. Waiting for trains to pull out of a station can really piss a rider off......like me. I didn't come 3,000 miles to sit my ass in a station. |
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Posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Wed Jun 19 12:49:14 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Train Looking Good, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Wed Jun 19 11:21:16 2019. That did happen once on my four jaunts on the Sea Beach, but the other three times there was no hold up whatsoever.....so Iguess I lucked out there. Waiting for trains to pull out of a station can really piss a rider off......like me. I didn't come 3,000 miles to sit my ass in a station. |
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