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Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors

Posted by LA Scott on Tue Nov 13 08:58:38 2018, in response to Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Nov 13 08:56:39 2018.

Looks like circles are trains and squares are BRT.

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Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors

Posted by Fine, Howard, and Fine on Tue Nov 13 09:01:12 2018, in response to Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors, posted by Easy on Mon Nov 12 19:27:43 2018.

To me, at least on my screen with my eyes, gold looks like orange. And orange looks like red.

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Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors

Posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Nov 13 10:00:02 2018, in response to Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Nov 13 08:56:39 2018.

Maybe they should use letters+colors for the train lines and numbers+colors for the BRT lines.

Their A train symbol looks the same as ours (A in dark blue circle). Not a complaint.

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Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors

Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Tue Nov 13 10:11:34 2018, in response to Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Nov 13 10:00:02 2018.

They should make the Red Line subway their A line, followed by the Purple Line their B line. Go in order of opening date.

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Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors

Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Nov 13 10:12:11 2018, in response to Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Nov 13 10:00:02 2018.

But doesn't NYCT have registered trade marks for for letters in circles.


ROAR

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Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors

Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Tue Nov 13 10:15:06 2018, in response to Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Nov 13 10:12:11 2018.

Yes.

Remember the "F" Line Deli (or something along those lines forgive my pun) that got sued for using the orange F bullet in their signage?

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Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Nov 13 10:17:19 2018, in response to Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors, posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Tue Nov 13 10:11:34 2018.

Well, if all rail lines are considered, the Blue Line (light rail) opened first. So it would be the A, followed by the Red Line as B. The Purple Line is tricky, while it was originally a branch of the Red Line, and actually opened before the Red Line segments to Hollywood and North Hollywood (July 1996, June 1999 and June 2000, respectively). Meanwhile, the Green Line opened before any of those (August 1995). So who knows what they'll do. I think the BRT bus lines (Orange and Silver) don't need letters. They can use their official route numbers (901 for Orange, 910 for Silver). Just use 900-series for all BRTs and people will get the idea.

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Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors

Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Tue Nov 13 10:21:06 2018, in response to Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Nov 13 10:17:19 2018.

I don't mean to sound crass, but you assume everyone who rides the Metro is a local.

Or is knowledgeable about public transportation in general.

Or from this country...

[/crass mode] lol


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Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Nov 13 12:33:17 2018, in response to Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors, posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Tue Nov 13 10:15:06 2018.

I doubt the trademark covers any transit line outside of NY. There is zero likelihood of confusion if similar shapes and colors are used in LA.

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Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors

Posted by Easy on Tue Nov 13 12:57:30 2018, in response to Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors, posted by italianstallion on Tue Nov 13 12:33:17 2018.

Does NYCT sell merchandise nationwide with copyrighted or trademarked stuff?

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Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors

Posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Nov 13 18:35:35 2018, in response to Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors, posted by Fine, Howard, and Fine on Tue Nov 13 09:01:12 2018.

Mine too.

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Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors

Posted by Easy on Tue Nov 13 20:07:10 2018, in response to Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors, posted by Fine, Howard, and Fine on Tue Nov 13 09:01:12 2018.

Gold doesn’t look orange to me but I’ve definitely heard people have the same issue in the real world. More than once I’ve heard people looking at a map and plotting a course for the orange line when they really wanted gold. I was able to help those people but I’m guessing that it must happen fairly often.

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Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Nov 13 21:28:34 2018, in response to Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors, posted by Easy on Tue Nov 13 20:07:10 2018.

color interpretation is a very inexact process. Rivet counting modelers often have major disagreements over the "correct" shade of a color the the prototype bought from several vendors whose products faded differently.

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Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors

Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Wed Nov 14 09:20:00 2018, in response to Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Nov 13 21:28:34 2018.

Not to mention that unless the color correction is set properly on a PC and monitor, the colors may not line up perfectly from one monitor to another.

See the Color Management Control Panel for further details.

(screenshots below)

On Windows 7:


This is what the applet looks like though (this example is in XP):


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Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Nov 14 11:41:23 2018, in response to Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors, posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Wed Nov 14 09:20:00 2018.

and if one is more serious, there are third party hardware devices for the purposes. Over the years, I have had the displeasure of working with multiple brands of 'Cat3,5,6' voice and data cable which supposedly have standardized colors for the individual wires. In some light the greens and blues are nearly indistinguishable.
And we are not even talking about those of us with eye color reception defects.

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Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors

Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Wed Nov 14 13:16:57 2018, in response to Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Nov 14 11:41:23 2018.

Indeed. I cut Cat5 and 6 cable all the time and see the difference of striped and solid strand colors between manufacturers. As long as you can manage to use the proper sequence (568-B or 568-A) on both sides and don't accidentally create a crossover (-b to -a or vice versa) cable. I still use a cable tester with a loopback device to test my crimped creations.


And you're also right about the deficiencies with human eyes insofar as our reception of colors. Some people have vivid color reception, some don't and some are blind to certain colors (not necessarily the same as others).

I once knew someone who was color blind to the color purple. They saw it as black.

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Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors

Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Nov 14 17:53:41 2018, in response to Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Nov 14 11:41:23 2018.

I used that brand once... It was not that hard. Your ice may vary.

ROAR

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Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Nov 14 23:27:20 2018, in response to Re: LA Metro to recommend letters over numbers and colors, posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Wed Nov 14 13:16:57 2018.

yes I use a loop back set, favor 568 B. some manufacturers claim to match pantone; not always reliable. really bright light helps. As to colors degrading to black, Ihave that issue w/many shades in poor light; related to why I can't drive.

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LA Metro installs first customer service booth

Posted by Easy on Fri Nov 23 18:30:57 2018, in response to LACMTA news and LA area events, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 27 14:21:47 2008.

As far as I know this yet to be opened customer service booth is the very first for modern LA Metro rail. It’s long overdue as usually there are no staff to be found if you have questions of any type.

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Re: LA Metro installs first customer service booth

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Nov 23 19:41:16 2018, in response to LA Metro installs first customer service booth, posted by Easy on Fri Nov 23 18:30:57 2018.

looks like no one is there

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Re: LA Metro installs first customer service booth

Posted by Easy on Fri Nov 23 22:13:17 2018, in response to Re: LA Metro installs first customer service booth, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Nov 23 19:41:16 2018.

It’s not open yet. Looks like it will be soon.

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Re: LA Metro installs first customer service booth

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Nov 23 22:33:18 2018, in response to Re: LA Metro installs first customer service booth, posted by Easy on Fri Nov 23 22:13:17 2018.

i see

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