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Posted by Dave on Mon Mar 5 07:31:19 2018 Snit |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Mon Mar 5 18:23:24 2018, in response to How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by Dave on Mon Mar 5 07:31:19 2018. I don’t see how any railfan can like Trump.Neat map graphic in the article, BTW. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Mar 5 20:14:11 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by Italianstallion on Mon Mar 5 18:23:24 2018. That animated map and chart is awesome.For me (judging only from my personal railfan standpoint), he's a mixed bag. Sucks for American infrastructure and trains (at this point everyone with half a brain should have figured out that his infrastructure plan is all smoke and mirrors). But, via the tax cuts, he's put more money in my pocket that I can use to travel to places with actual trains. His dicking around regarding tariffs has put stock prices at a discount, which I've been taking advantage of. Since corporations are more powerful than even the President, somehow someway the talk will disappear (perhaps after something watered down to the point of ineffectual gets through, just for show), and the market will stabilize. And through that I'll make even more money to support railfanning in faraway lands. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Mar 5 20:24:18 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Mar 5 20:14:11 2018. But, via the tax cuts, he's put more money in my pocket that I can use to travel to places with actual trains.Well, at least you get to borrow the money at government interest rates, not personal loan interest rates. But you will pay it back, unless you die first. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Mar 5 20:35:06 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 5 20:24:18 2018. No one's paid back the national debt yet, no reason to assume we'll start anytime during my lifetime, and definitely no reason to assume that if we do start paying, the Trump tax cuts are to blame...And also, we could just, you know, cut spending. This is why I was in favor of Ron Paul / Libertarians, at least for 1 term. Burn all the executive agency mission creep to the ground and the following President can have a blank slate to rebuild what is actually needed. |
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Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 5 20:46:43 2018, in response to How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by Dave on Mon Mar 5 07:31:19 2018. LOL Bloomberg. They're a mess on things like this. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 5 20:47:39 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Mar 5 20:35:06 2018. And also, we could just, you know, cut spending. This is why I was in favor of Ron Paul / LibertariansThey aren't serious about cutting spending either. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Mon Mar 5 20:53:56 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Mar 5 20:35:06 2018. Cutting spending, where? Not easy to decide when everybody has their own favorite parts of the budget. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Mar 5 21:26:02 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by 3-9 on Mon Mar 5 20:53:56 2018. That's why you cut it all. Massacre federal funding of everyone's sacred cows. DEA, FDA, ATF, DoEd, DOL, TSA, Amtrak, everything. Will have to keep a few things like FCC and SEC because a lot of chaos can happen if those are left unchecked. Social Security and Medicare will still keep their dedicated funding sources. Amtrak gets to keep its ticket money.Cut till it hurts and cut some more. Drastically lower federal taxes, creating some breathing room for states to raise their taxes and take over the things they find most urgent. Then, after the dust settles, rebuild only what the states were not able to pick up, and any unexpected holes that may have cropped up. We survived 120 years without all that, we can handle 5 years without Uncle Sam's TLAs. |
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Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snot Threatens the National Economy |
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Posted by heypaul on Mon Mar 5 22:28:53 2018, in response to How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by Dave on Mon Mar 5 07:31:19 2018. I'm really surprised that no one here has pointed out that in the event of the failure of one of the Hudson River tunnels, they could route all affected trains through the underutilized PATH tunnels. Affected trains passing through Newark would be routed through PATH via Hoboken and after a few interesting maneuvers be brought into 33 Street PATH station, a stone's through away from Penn Station. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 5 22:40:37 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Mar 5 21:26:02 2018. You're still promoting state-level socialism. Put it back in the private sector where it belongs. The only reason for federal takeovers is federal control. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Mar 6 02:27:01 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Mar 5 20:14:11 2018. But, via the tax cuts, he's put more money in my pocket that I can use to travel to places with actual trains.That's the running gag that I've made with my railfan friend. So I'm not even the least bit hopeful for public transport in the US, and I'm almost tempted to do a Amtrak sleeper trip sooner rather than later, but I have an extra $20 twice a month to put into the trip fund. The sad part is that I'd much rather have a usable system here. $40 a month doesn't make up for the extra time my brother devotes to getting to work because NYCTA has turned to mush. His dicking around regarding tariffs has put stock prices at a discount, which I've been taking advantage of. In contrast, he's screwing me over by trashing my investments. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Mar 6 02:56:32 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Mar 5 21:26:02 2018. creating some breathing room for states to raise their taxesTo be honest, there's a bit of a test case in Canada given that the Canadian federal government doesn't do as much as the US, and much of the responsibility is left to the provincial governments. The major difference is that Canadian provinces can run deficits unlike their US counterparts, and for sampling purposes, Ontario, the most populated province has $310B worth of debt for a province of nearly 13M residents. For comparison, California which is considered to be a "financial basketcase" has $400B worth of debt for 36M residents. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Mar 6 07:04:34 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snot Threatens the National Economy, posted by heypaul on Mon Mar 5 22:28:53 2018. It will never happen. The Port Authority will force all the passengers on those trains to purchase Smart cards which will refuse to allow them to proceed past Newark, thus causing a riders revolt. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 6 08:54:01 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snot Threatens the National Economy, posted by 3-9 on Tue Mar 6 07:04:34 2018. He's joking. Didn't notice he changed "snit" to "snot"? |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 6 09:22:12 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Mar 5 20:35:06 2018. We're not going to cut spending. When the debt gets too intolerable, we're going raise taxes. On YOU. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Mar 6 10:44:33 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 6 09:22:12 2018. No. When the debt breaks they will just void the money and the debt and start over.Pooof... it is all gone. (Buy GOLD) ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Mar 6 10:55:12 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snot Threatens the National Economy, posted by heypaul on Mon Mar 5 22:28:53 2018. Whale since this is by heypaul... The answer is obvious.No standard size train could ever fit in a path tunnel. Not the curves, not the height, not the electrical pick-up, not nuttin. Besides PATH is full, bumper to bumper trains all filled to squish capacity. If one tube goes down you are scrod. ROAR |
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Posted by VictorM on Tue Mar 6 15:54:04 2018, in response to How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by Dave on Mon Mar 5 07:31:19 2018. The solution is obvious: NJT commuters who now use NYP should move to LI and take advantage of ESA as well as NYP. Better beaches, better everything. Screw NJ. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Mar 6 17:58:27 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snot Threatens the National Economy, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Mar 6 10:55:12 2018. The PATH tunnels are even older than the Amtrak tunnels. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Mar 6 18:41:17 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snot Threatens the Unnatural Economy, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 6 08:54:01 2018. I was joking too. :-) |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Mar 6 20:14:16 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Mar 6 02:56:32 2018. Canadian provinces are funny like that... they're both more and less powerful w/r/t their Federal government than our states. The provinces handle more responsibility and have more power. But, they can also be dissolved and redrawn at the whims of their federal government.Our states have less effective power, but the federal government can't arbitrarily decide to, say, recombine Virginia or merge Rhode Island in with Massachusetts. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Mar 6 20:17:08 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 6 09:22:12 2018. So you're saying, we shouldn't have a tax cut now, because we're going to raise taxes later. Except, we would have had higher taxes all along, and still have raised taxes later.I don't trust either party as far as I can throw them - take the money now because they're going to take it later either way. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 6 20:21:09 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Mar 6 20:17:08 2018. Except, we would have had higher taxes all along, and still have raised taxes later.No, if we had higher taxes all along, they would not raise them later. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 6 20:27:50 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Mar 6 20:14:16 2018. But, they can also be dissolved and redrawn at the whims of their federal government.Huh? The Constitution of Canada requires an amendment for the creation of a new province but the creation of a new territory requires only an act of Parliament, a legislatively simpler process. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Mar 6 20:49:22 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Mar 6 20:14:16 2018. Canadian provinces are funny like that... they're both more and less powerful w/r/t their Federal government than our states.Canadian provinces end up doing the bulk of the spending of the taxation, but the Canadian central government basically exists to run the military, ensure financial equity in terms of social spending and infrastructure, and collect the taxes for the two other functions. Hell, provinces can theoretically opt out of the Canada Pension Plan and run their own plan. The equivalent in the US would never happen. On the flip side, you have downright weird provincial barriers in Canada that don't exist in the US because the Commerce Clause doesn't exist in Canada. But, they can also be dissolved and redrawn at the whims of their federal government. There are times that I wish that we could redraw state boundaries as such. New York's tri-state region makes little sense from a governance perspective. OTOH, a regional state for the metro area would need to have the Catskill watershed included to ensure some degree of protection for the city lest a future upstate sovereign power encourage degradation of that resource. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Mar 6 20:58:10 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 6 20:21:09 2018. There's no way you can know that. However, we can know with 100% certainty that right now, our taxes are lower. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Mar 6 21:01:07 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by VictorM on Tue Mar 6 15:54:04 2018. Indeed, NJ really is the only one that gets screwed on this. Employers won't be moving to NJ when 2/3rds of their work force is on the NY side of the Hudson (NY & CT residents). Property values on our side will skyrocket.The employers already in NJ will still be fine - whatever solution is devised (ferries, PTC PATH trains running every 30 seconds, hyperloops), there will be plenty of reverse peak capacity for NYers to get there. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Mar 6 21:21:45 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 6 20:27:50 2018. Just parroting what a Canadian buddy told me. Considering he took civics class up there he's more of an expert than I am. But what you found doesn't disagree. The Provinces were defined from the top down. The Provincial Government has no say if the Federal government (through whatever means) makes a decision to change things.Our Federal Government doesn't even have theoretical power to divide a state without their consent; states joined the Union with boundaries already established. The two divisions were bottom-up movements: Massachusetts allowed Maine to secede, and West Virginia was a division proposed by specific county delegates. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 6 22:45:05 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Mar 6 21:21:45 2018. Kentucky split from Virginia and Vermont split from New York. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 7 01:21:57 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Mar 6 21:21:45 2018. The Provincial Government has no say if the Federal government (through whatever means) makes a decision to change things.Except that it requires a Constitutional Amendment, which is pretty hard to promulgate in Canada too. The only thing that's harder in the US is that the state itself has to consent. In Canada, you just need the Amendment. Note that the US has had 4 split-offs after independence, as you and S-P have pointed out. Canada has had no splits since the Province of Canada was split into Ontario and Quebec during the process of forming the nation. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Mar 7 07:45:19 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 6 22:45:05 2018. Ah, I totally forgot Vermont. I don't think I ever knew about Kentucky. For a state named "Virgin"ia it sure is good at making baby states... |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 7 08:10:00 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Mar 7 07:45:19 2018. The “Territory Northwest of the River Ohio” was also ceded by Virginia. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Mar 7 08:59:33 2018, in response to How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by Dave on Mon Mar 5 07:31:19 2018. Bull. I'm not defending Trump, but the article is just wrong. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 7 10:05:10 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Mar 7 08:59:33 2018. The article is probably an exaggeration. They would almost certainly need to close only one tube at a time. They could still run a lot of rush hour trains one-way in the remaining tube; it would be reverse rush and late inbound rush (once they run out of inbound trains, but before they have managed to get any of the first batch of trains back to NJ) that would suffer most.Frequent Newark to 33rd street direct PATH service could also pick up much of the slack. Buses could help with the reverse commute and the late inbound rush hour (instead of laying buses up after a first run, send them back out and back in again). More work-at-home and flextime would help too. Nevertheless, it is true that the national economy depends in a measurable way on people who live in NJ doing their jobs located in NYC. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Mar 7 10:11:29 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 7 10:05:10 2018. They say with one tube, 25% of the trains woudl run.Sunnyside has finite capacity. On weekends, they run 8 trains per hour each way to allow for single threading, 3 Amtrak slots, 5 NJT slots. No, you cannot shove another 150,000 people on uptown PATH, and PATH does not have the cars. They are already quite loaded from JSQ and HOB. The Lincoln Tunnel can have hour long back ups inbound in the PM rush. You don't just send them "back in again". By the time they get back from wherever they went to , it would be after 7 or 8 pm. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 7 10:23:18 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by Joe V on Wed Mar 7 10:11:29 2018. Of course, one would divert as many NJT trains to Hoboken as possible - less strain on PATH equipment requirements.The 6th Ave PATH line is nowhere near capacity in terms of tph. It's a lot cheaper and quicker to buy more PATH cars than to build a new tunnel. Flextime is a necessary part of the solution. Many employers would find it helpful to allow some of their people to work from 11 to 7. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Mar 7 11:26:07 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 7 10:23:18 2018. I happen to get the NJT rider number every 3 or 6 months by line to major destinations. I happen to think they under-count them.Last summer, the entire M&E was routed to Hoboken, The NEC and NJCL were more or less left alone, except the NJCL lost its Hoboken service to make way for the M&E. 5% of the NJCL passengers go to HOB, which is 580 people. M&E has 29,750 riders each way. 77% go to NYPS, which is 22,900. We know Hoboken can handle that many more people less 580, with some difficulty and lines. The NEC has 60,675 riders each way, 74% go to NYPS, which is 44,900. The NJCL has 11,575 riders each way 58% go to NYPS, which is 6,700. The RVL has 11,625 riders each way 46% go to NYPS, which is 5,350. The Montclair/Boonton has 9,100 riders riders each way, 70% go to NYPS, which is 6,370 The Main/Bergen (NJ+Suffern) has 14,500 riders each way, 45% go to NYPS, which is 6.525. The Pascack (NJ) has 4000 riders each way, 36% go to NYPS, which is 1,440. Add up all those line, you get 94,185. As I said, we know PATH from HOB to either 33rd or HOB can handle 22,900, plus some people took ferries with heavy discount and massively subsidized fares. If we lose 1 Amtrak tunnel, 75% of 94,185 is 70,638, would get diverted to Hoboken. PATH and neither their of NJT's Hoboken Terminal cannot handle TRIPLE the additional passengers they got last summer diverted from NYPS. It is also very difficult to get Newark Division trains into Hoboken, which is why all M&E train were booted out, not a proportion from each line. That is a one track "Waterfoont Connection". The NJCL trains got booted out with all the M&E trains added The NJT HOB terminal could not handle the volume of trains or people. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 7 12:46:45 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by Joe V on Wed Mar 7 11:26:07 2018. None of this includes lengthening the rush hour (flextime) and reducing demand (work at home).I also still suspect the 75% reduction number. Run 20 trains inbound, then 20 trains outbound, and you don't get that sort of reduction. It can't work on the L (where it was previously discussed) because you have little storage space under 14th Street, but it works a lot better given you have Sunnyside Yard, even if it can't hold the entire NJT fleet. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Mar 7 13:07:47 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 7 12:46:45 2018. You'd have inbound for an hour, outbound for an hour, inbound for an hour.....20 trains have to pile up somewhere. Once they head to SSY in the AM, that's where they stay for the duration. NJT has no East River tunnel slots in the LIRR peak direction. Don't assume so many bosses are so accommodating with flex time and work from home. Some are petty and regard employees as children, like mine does currently, or doctors, lawyers, accountants, teachers, or building services who have to be in a certain physical location for clients and customers. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 7 13:34:16 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by Joe V on Wed Mar 7 13:07:47 2018. Don't assume so many bosses are so accommodating with flex time and work from home.They'd have no choice, if they want to stay in business. We are not talking about a wonderful situation. We are talking about effect on GDP, namely people who would go out of business if one tube closes. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Mar 7 13:40:14 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 7 13:34:16 2018. They'll stay in business just fine. No one is indispensable. Pink slips work fine.Employers care about their business and productivity, not GDP. NJ workers make up about 20% of the Manhattan work force. Companies often whack 10% of their headcount when they don't make their numbers anyway. It'll get to the point with those who have New Jersey on their Resume will go to the bottom of the in basket knowing they will be late for work and stressed out when they do make it in. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 7 13:53:30 2018, in response to Re: How Trump’s Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by Joe V on Wed Mar 7 13:40:14 2018. Iawtp! No one is irreplaceable.I was 20 minutes late one day a/c train delay & was docked. When I bitched, I was told "Nobody told you to move there" It was a Metro-North train & I happened to be a MN employee at the time. Having just turned 60 with 38yrs seniority, it was time to have a visit with the RR retirement people...and hope their train was on time!! |
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