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Re: How Trumpís Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy

Posted by Joe V on Wed Mar 7 11:26:07 2018, in response to Re: How Trumpís Hudson Tunnel Snit Threatens the National Economy, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 7 10:23:18 2018.

I happen to get the NJT rider number every 3 or 6 months by line to major destinations. I happen to think they under-count them.

Last summer, the entire M&E was routed to Hoboken, The NEC and NJCL were more or less left alone, except the NJCL lost its Hoboken service to make way for the M&E. 5% of the NJCL passengers go to HOB, which is 580 people.

M&E has 29,750 riders each way. 77% go to NYPS, which is 22,900. We know Hoboken can handle that many more people less 580, with some difficulty and lines.

The NEC has 60,675 riders each way, 74% go to NYPS, which is 44,900.
The NJCL has 11,575 riders each way 58% go to NYPS, which is 6,700.
The RVL has 11,625 riders each way 46% go to NYPS, which is 5,350.
The Montclair/Boonton has 9,100 riders riders each way, 70% go to NYPS, which is 6,370
The Main/Bergen (NJ+Suffern) has 14,500 riders each way, 45% go to NYPS, which is 6.525.
The Pascack (NJ) has 4000 riders each way, 36% go to NYPS, which is 1,440.

Add up all those line, you get 94,185.
As I said, we know PATH from HOB to either 33rd or HOB can handle 22,900, plus some people took ferries with heavy discount and massively subsidized fares.

If we lose 1 Amtrak tunnel, 75% of 94,185 is 70,638, would get diverted to Hoboken. PATH and neither their of NJT's Hoboken Terminal cannot handle TRIPLE the additional passengers they got last summer diverted from NYPS.

It is also very difficult to get Newark Division trains into Hoboken, which is why all M&E train were booted out, not a proportion from each line. That is a one track "Waterfoont Connection". The NJCL trains got booted out with all the M&E trains added The NJT HOB terminal could not handle the volume of trains or people.


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