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Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Feb 13 21:42:31 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by Joe V on Tue Feb 13 17:39:37 2018. They shuttered Elmurst, yet keep Glendale open? |
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Re: LIRR CHARTER: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 13 21:45:53 2018, in response to Re: LIRR CHARTER: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018), posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Feb 12 23:10:06 2018. That is real 19th century passenger railroading there. |
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Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion |
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Posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Tue Feb 13 22:36:16 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Feb 13 21:42:31 2018. I'm hearing that they're rebuilding Elmhurst again. |
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Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion |
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Posted by sloth on Tue Feb 13 23:49:38 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Feb 13 21:42:31 2018. Elmhurst was in dire need of renovation. What was there to renovate or spend $$$ on in Glendale? In every station closing over the last 40 years, the RR is either facing expenditures where the ridership doesn't justify it, or political pressure from Suffolk County over station maintenance fees.In fact the RR tended to keep "stations" open beyond their useful life, which is also what happened on the Lower Montauk. |
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Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion |
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Posted by sloth on Wed Feb 14 00:04:38 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by italianstallion on Tue Feb 13 20:58:48 2018. Explain then why Rosedale sees as many weekday trains as Murray Hill, Broadway, or Auburndale. And Nostrand Avenue has significantly more service than any of them. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Feb 14 06:35:49 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by italianstallion on Tue Feb 13 20:58:48 2018. Oh stop. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 14 07:25:16 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Feb 13 21:42:31 2018. Again, it was a cost issue. Glendale had zero cost. No subway near Glendale either. |
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Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 14 08:42:04 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by sloth on Tue Feb 13 23:49:38 2018. If they wanted to close a station, they would concoct numbers to justify it. When Southampton College still existed and with a station, which was itself a de facto replacement of Watermill, they counted AM rush hour loadings to justify it shutting it. Of course, their loadings tend to be reverse peak with college students and employees. Now SUNY Stony Brook occupies some of its buildings and they get no train service. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 09:55:13 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by AlM on Tue Feb 13 17:28:19 2018. Rosedale is served for the most part by Far Rockaway Branch trains, which don't run quite as good as Port Washington Branch line trains, which Bayside is on.St Albans, oddly is on the West Hempstead Branch schedule, but is served more by Babylon Branch trains if I am not mistaken. It is used more than it used to be. |
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Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 09:58:48 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by italianstallion on Tue Feb 13 20:58:48 2018. So you are going to say it's "because of the people that live there"? That's BS.There are plenty of stations in similar demographic neighbohoods which get great service. Wyandanch comes to mind, but even so, Central Islip, Bay Shore, and there are many others. Bellport on the Montauk Branch was slated to be closed in the 1998 attack of station closings. Bellport being a classic "north and south of the tracks" area has one of the poorest neighbohoods in Suffolk County on the north side of the tracks there (and where the station is located), and also has an extremely affluent wealthy "Hamptons like" area as you go south. It is indeed the north of the track, poor area that saved that station in 1998 and got it rebuilt and remaining open. So stop with the "oh it's demographics" crap, as there is no race involved in it. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 10:00:38 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 14 07:25:16 2018. You are correct in the fact that "Glendale had zero cost", as it was no more than maintaining any other simple grade crossing. However, the "Glendale has no subway" statement has absolutely nothing to do with it. No one used the station, regardless of there being subway or not, as the service was atrocious. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Feb 14 10:54:10 2018, in response to Re: Queens-Brooklyn Light Rail (Was: Lower Montauk Branch Report), posted by ClearAspect on Tue Feb 13 16:32:33 2018. Wanna Bet! |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Feb 14 11:34:28 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by italianstallion on Tue Feb 13 20:58:48 2018. On the Port Washington branch Queens is the bulk of the passengers what with only two or three rural stops in Nassau.St. Albans/Rosedale et.al. are served by trains from Nassau and Suffolk who's passengers do not want to have extra stops in Queens. Indeed, buses seem to carry local commuters from that area better than the LIRR can. ROAR |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Feb 14 12:50:12 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by AlM on Tue Feb 13 17:28:19 2018. I concur. East of Jamaica in Queens should be considered as important as Nassau Cty. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Feb 14 12:54:40 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Feb 14 06:35:49 2018. Oh I agree in this situation. Simply put, Bayside and Douglaston have more political power than Hollis and Laurelton. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Feb 14 12:56:16 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by sloth on Wed Feb 14 00:04:38 2018. Rosedale has off peak service every 30 minutes? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 13:12:17 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Feb 14 11:34:28 2018. Actually, that's also probably the St Albans problem. It is mostly served by Babylon Branch trains, which is a horrifying local with so many stops as it is. |
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Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 13:17:24 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Feb 14 12:50:12 2018. I think it for the most part is. Stations like Rosedale are served by the Far Rockaway Branch, and I believe most if not all of the trains that stop on the other Far Rockaway Branch stations in Nassau County also stop at Rosedale, Laurelton and Locust Manor. If I am not mistaken, Rosedale, etc gets even better service than the Far Rockaway Branch itself, as I believe even some Babylon Branch trains also stop at those three stations, so those stations actually get better service than stations like let's say "Cedarhurst". |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 13:23:22 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Feb 14 12:54:40 2018. I don't know why people are complaining about Laurelton. It gets good service on par with many stations along the LIRR. A little less than Rosedale, but still not terrible.As for Hollis, It gets excellent service, and is served by just about every Hempstead Branch train. It gets the same service as "Garden City", Stewart Manor, Nassau Blvd, and other very affluent areas. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 13:25:58 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Feb 14 12:56:16 2018. At rush hours better than every 15 minutes or half hourly, but about hourly at off peak times. It's on par to much of the LIRR. Even Ronkonkoma stations are hourly off peak. |
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Posted by sloth on Wed Feb 14 13:26:00 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 13:17:24 2018. During the week Rosedale gets 6 Long Beach trains in the peak direction, plus 1 reverse peak westbound and 1 late night eastbound. The Babylon is a single late night weekend westbound. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 13:27:06 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by sloth on Wed Feb 14 13:26:00 2018. Ah, okay. I wasn't sure which the non Far Rockaway trains were. It seems to be heavily served by Long Beach branch. |
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Posted by sloth on Wed Feb 14 13:28:32 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Feb 14 12:56:16 2018. Those three Port Wash stations are served hourly due to skip-stop service on the branch. So whatever it is, it sure ain't demographics. The weekend is a bit of a different story. |
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Posted by sloth on Wed Feb 14 13:39:36 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Feb 14 12:54:40 2018. Bayside has something like 6x the ridership of Laurelton. The level of service isn't the problem at Laurelton and Hollis. The dilapidated facilities are. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 13:47:50 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by sloth on Wed Feb 14 13:39:36 2018. The dilapidated facilities are.And unfortunately, there are many other stations in that horrible state too. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Feb 14 14:08:20 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by Joe V on Tue Feb 13 17:41:59 2018. "Actually, the Triboro Q53 franchise arose from the ashes of the RBB.They hitched up the Rocakway Peninsula with the Fulton St subway because that is what Robert Moses said to do." I agree with you to a point. The Q-53 was an express bus, I believe one of the first franchised express bus routes in the city. After it left 63d Drive Its next stop was Playland B 98th St in Rockaway. Passengers for Brooklyn Manor & Woodhaven on the RBB were SOL in terms for any help from the Q-53. Enter the Green Bus. As for hooking up with the Fulton St Subway, IMO that was the next best thing if hooking up with the Queens Blvd Subway was out of the question. The Fulton St Subway was a full service 4 track line that could easily absorb Rockaway Trains. Hooking up with the BMT Jamaica line just would not work. With just two tracks east of B'Way Jct. nowhere near enough capacity. |
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Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 14 14:35:41 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Feb 14 14:08:20 2018. There was a once daily Jamaica Bus until 2010 from Brooklyn Manor to Manhattan.They considered the Parkside too be too close to Forest Hills or on the Q11 to Woodhaven Blvd to be worth they bother. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Feb 14 14:48:53 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Feb 14 12:54:40 2018. Thank you. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Feb 14 14:49:46 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 09:58:48 2018. Who said "race"? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Feb 14 14:59:30 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 09:58:48 2018. Who said anything about "Race"? Do you know what demographics means? You conservatives make everything about race. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 15:18:37 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by italianstallion on Wed Feb 14 14:49:46 2018. It can't be economic, as they get just as many trains as some of the affluent areas like Garden City, Stewart Manor and so forth. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 15:30:45 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 14 08:42:04 2018. I think in reference to Southampton College, they may have been looking at the old LIU to put up funds for the construction of the high level platform, which they probably refused. So that was that.Economics did have a lot to do with why they closed the 1998 stations. (Aside from the LIC local stations, which probably unfortunately should have been abandoned years earlier, as they weren't even really stations at most of the sites. Glen Street on the Oyster Bay branch was on the original 1998 list, not because of patronage (it had great patronage), but because of the extra cost involved in constructing a station high level platform there on a sharp curve. Bellport (Because of extreme OPPOSITE of NIMBY opposition) and Glen Street were the only two stations to to survive after being on the original 1998 list. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Feb 14 15:36:44 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 15:18:37 2018. Population density is a demographic attribute. Bayside has plenty of apartment buildings. Isn't southeast Queens more single family houses? |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Feb 14 16:15:08 2018, in response to Re: Queens-Brooklyn Light Rail (Was: Lower Montauk Branch Report), posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Feb 14 10:54:10 2018. The way Prince Andrew has ben going, if he wants it, it will happen! |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Feb 14 16:19:48 2018, in response to Re: Queens-Brooklyn Light Rail (Was: Lower Montauk Branch Report), posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Feb 14 10:54:10 2018. Absolutely, the airtrain is a money black hole, PANYNJ would likely be pleased to have it taken off their plate |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 14 16:22:12 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by italianstallion on Wed Feb 14 14:59:30 2018. Excellent post. I didn't think about race at all when you said "Demographics." |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 14 16:26:27 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by sloth on Wed Feb 14 13:28:32 2018. How do you figure? Bayside has different demographics than Auburndale and Broadway. And Murray Hill has much less of a benefit than other stations (the time penalty from taking the bus to the subway is much less).Nostrand Avenue serves the reverse peak market. People using that station don't use it as the alternative to the bus and subway, they use it as the alternative to driving, or nothing. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Feb 14 16:26:30 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 14 15:36:44 2018. Dont assist him, let chris answer, he dug his own hole, let him bury himself |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 14 16:29:14 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Feb 14 12:54:40 2018. There's that, but the economic issues can't be ignored; although income and political power are proportional. It has little to do with race. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 14 16:34:09 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 14 15:36:44 2018. Rochdale Village is near Locust Manor |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 14 16:37:44 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 15:30:45 2018. Medford was on a shit list too, but managed to survive.Sea Cliff - Glen St - Glen Cove are within 2 miles. They wanted to get rid of one, but that is hard to do when the busiest one is in the middle. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 14 16:40:17 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 15:30:45 2018. A few hours ago, I was looking at a Google map overhead view of what I think was the Southampton College station site. What I saw was construction equipment that likely had just demolished all traces of that station.With SUNY having moved in, LIRR wants to make sure it can't be brought reopened. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 14 16:41:15 2018, in response to Re: Queens-Brooklyn Light Rail (Was: Lower Montauk Branch Report), posted by ClearAspect on Wed Feb 14 16:19:48 2018. But they are to build another one for Corona - LGA |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 16:43:55 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 14 16:26:27 2018. That goes for East New York too. Most of the passengers are reverse peak there too. The east bound platform is full in the morning, with the westbound empty. The reverse of most stations. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 16:48:16 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 14 15:36:44 2018. Yes. But the stations do get about as much service as the rest of the line. The Port Washington line has decent service. Other stations you think would have less like Hollis or Queens Village also have decent service, about as good as Garden City and the rest of the Hempstead branch stations do too. I am sure density has a part, but so does it's location on a particular line too. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Feb 14 16:48:28 2018, in response to Re: Queens-Brooklyn Light Rail (Was: Lower Montauk Branch Report), posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 14 16:41:15 2018. Thanks to prince andrew |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 16:50:33 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 14 16:29:14 2018. This could be true (and is sometimes) but it's not always income level either. I used Bellport as an example. Again, while there are two polar opposite neighborhoods on either side of the tracks there, it is the poorer neighborhood that saved that station in 1998. The affluent "Hamptons like" are south had little interest in it, but there was a vocal opposition from the north side of the tracks there. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 16:52:07 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 14 16:37:44 2018. I don't remember Medford on the list, but it may have. Glen St was indeed because of the curve, I remember reading about that, and the questions as to why because it was a busy station unlike any of the others. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 14 16:55:48 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 16:50:33 2018. I suppose the poorer side was more transit-dependent. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 16:57:17 2018, in response to Re: Lower Montauk Branch Passenger Rail Study (Final Report 2018) could cost over $2 Billion, posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 14 16:40:17 2018. With SUNY having moved in, LIRR wants to make sure it can't be brought reopened.Why? In any event. They destroyed the remnants of all those 1998 stations. Holtsville is almost completely taken back by nature (although it didn't even have a paved parking lot). Here's a photo I took of Holtsville in the early 90's:   Center Moriches had a paved parking lot, which is still relatively there aside from the platform. Southampton had a pretty nice platform, more than most the others:  Medford was a wreck. 
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