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Nighttime Shot of 3rd Ave El at 67th Street (1953) |
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Posted by heypaul on Tue Nov 28 21:00:33 2017 Very moody shot |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Nov 28 21:38:26 2017, in response to Nighttime Shot of 3rd Ave El at 67th Street (1953), posted by heypaul on Tue Nov 28 21:00:33 2017. That is a great shot. |
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Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Wed Nov 29 02:18:38 2017, in response to Nighttime Shot of 3rd Ave El at 67th Street (1953), posted by heypaul on Tue Nov 28 21:00:33 2017. Hello PaulJust as I remember my third to the north EL Local Station at night countless times until its destruction in Oct. - Nov. 1955 -- except the stairways at mine went as normally was the case, into the side street on each side of the EL. The E. 67th St Local Station was one of the rare traditional Victorian "Cropsey designed Swiss Chalet style" 3rd Ave Local station houses which had its its two stairways descend directly down onto the 3rd Avenue sidewalks ! Almost similar scenes, if in a more modern contemporary street scenes setting, can be found along the 1904 built west side IRT Broadway EL Line (# 1 line) which has local only stations which have separate detached NB and SB station houses and stairways. That line's EL Local Stations located in northern Manhattan over 10th Avenue at W. 207th Street and W. 215th Street, and over Broadway (across the River in the Bronx) at W. 231st Street and W. 238th Street. Likewise, the 1902-1904 built IRT West Farms EL Line (aka # 5 Line) -- with similar 1902-4 built all Local stations on Westchester Avenue at Simpson Street, and over Southern Blvd. at Prospect Ave, Freeman Street, and East 174th Street. Still retaining a good part of that old IRT 1902-4 era feel. More so when shot, heh, in "moody late night shots..." regards - Joe F |
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Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Wed Nov 29 03:43:50 2017, in response to Nighttime Shot of 3rd Ave El at 67th Street (1953), posted by heypaul on Tue Nov 28 21:00:33 2017. DaveThat shot is looking south along the uptown track and station house and platform (along the east sidewalk of 3rd Ave) from near E. 68th Street. The stairways came down - unusually - facing northward to the sidewalks of 3rd Avenue To think I was likely asleep in my bedroom that late night in 1953 in my mothers apartment whose building was just adjacent to the 2nd N/B EL Local station north from this one !! regards - Joe F |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Nov 29 04:55:13 2017, in response to Re: Nighttime Shot of 3rd Ave El at 67th Street (1953), posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Wed Nov 29 03:43:50 2017. Thanks, Joe. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Nov 29 17:59:09 2017, in response to Nighttime Shot of 3rd Ave El at 67th Street (1953), posted by heypaul on Tue Nov 28 21:00:33 2017. And by this time, there was no nighttime service on the el... |
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Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Wed Nov 29 19:16:12 2017, in response to Re: Nighttime Shot of 3rd Ave El at 67th Street (1953), posted by MainR3664 on Wed Nov 29 17:59:09 2017. Hello Main R3664Yes... Weekday Night passenger service after 7PM and Weekend passenger service from Friday night after apprx. 7Pm thru 6AM Monday Morning, ended March 14, 1952 on the Manhattan 3rd Ave EL below E. 149th Street Express Station ! However - note that ALL local 3rd Ave El trains in the Bronx southward to and into the E. 149th Street Express Station, (which then in March 1952 still had its operational center express track thru the station) at night & weekend service periods only, had to then discharge passengers at 149th St S/B, and then proceed to travel south, empty, along the S/B local track from the E. 149th St Express Station, to the UPPER LEVEL of the (alley-way EL) E. 138th Street express station. Then stop, change ends, and head back north and down to the Y switch at bottom of that center ramp track at the north end of the E. 143rd Street station, to switch over onto the N/B local track at E. 143rd Station LOWER LEVEL, and head north on the N/B local track to its N/B Island Platform platform at E. 149th Street Express Station !!! Regarding this photo -- its either (and likely) mis-dated and could actually be in early 1952 prior to March 14th) - or it was shot in the winter of 1953 PRIOR to 7Pm end of daytime service, when it was already dark at that time. However, as deserted as the Avenue is (pedestrians and traffic) in the rainy night photo scene, - and note the departing N/B local train at top right corner of photo - I suspect it IS mis-dated and was taken PRIOR to the March 14, 1952 night service closure...and is in fact, late at night (after 10PM or later). Remember, I lived in the East 80's along that line ! It may have been taken by the photographer to actually document the soon impending end of night time 3rd Ave EL train service ! regards - Joe F |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Nov 29 19:47:28 2017, in response to Re: Nighttime Shot of 3rd Ave El at 67th Street (1953), posted by Dave on Wed Nov 29 04:55:13 2017. hey Joe, did they leave those station lights on all night, after the March 14th, 1952 closures? |
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Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Thu Nov 30 03:53:52 2017, in response to Re: Nighttime Shot of 3rd Ave El at 67th Street (1953), posted by Elkeeper on Wed Nov 29 19:47:28 2017. Hello El KeeperAs I remember, per the two 3rd Ave EL Local stations in my E. 80's neighborhood I was daily exposed to (and used) - I know the lights were dark on both the platforms and the station houses and stairways. ALSO, the station agent (one for each station house) -- a number whom I became friendly with at those stations, after dealing with the revenue collection train usually operated just before or after the last train -- had to hit the master switches for the platform, station house and stairway lights, lock the station house doors, descend the stairs, and swing closed and lock, a new wood slatted 2 section swinging gate installed and located on the first "landing" located usually one third of the way up the (each) stairway. So as to prevent pedestrian access up the stairways to the station house after revenue service closed for the night or weekend. This was more so for indicating visually that the station and service was CLOSED at that time, rather than for security purpose. I would 'expect' this was the operating procedure for all stations. Money was saved by not having hundreds of thousands of light bulbs burning electricity 12 hours each night when the line was closed nights and weekends !! Here is a 1954 photo at the E. 59th Street UPTOWN EL station stairway at the S.E. corner of 3rd Ave & E. 59th Street, somewhat before 7 AM showing that 'gate' in closed position and passengers waiting for the agent to walk down the stairs and open it. |