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Posted by K. Trout on Fri Apr 28 15:42:15 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Fri Apr 28 10:41:57 2017. This is the opposite view of your second photo. As originally built, the NYW&B's 4 tracks (to the left) diverged directly from the NH's 4 passenger tracks. This is one of my favorite photos of the NYW&B because it shows how impressively (over)built it and the Harlem River branch were.
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Posted by BMRR on Fri Apr 28 16:06:27 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by BMRR on Fri Apr 28 08:09:54 2017. Thank you Joe.Some times it is hard to believe what existed at particular locations. Folks like you protect these facts from the eraser of time. Kevin |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Fri Apr 28 16:23:07 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Fri Apr 28 00:11:18 2017. WELL SHUT MY MOUTH AND CALL ME WRONG!ALL THESE YEARS I,VE BEEN THINKING WRONG.THANKS FOR CLEARING THIS UP .AND YES,THATS ME ON THE IRT.AT THE TIME I WAS AUGUST BELMONT JR. I HAVE LIVED,AND DIED MANY LIVES.LOL.GREAT PHOTOS. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Fri Apr 28 17:38:26 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Fri Apr 28 09:33:08 2017. JOE,THE TRACK WAS EXTENDED OVER THE TRESTLE 1 CAR LENGTH TO CLEAR THE SIGNAL BLOCK. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Apr 28 17:43:52 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Apr 27 13:08:08 2017. Don’t forget those cars also saw service in Queens when on the Myrtle, Fulton and Jamaica els. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Fri Apr 28 17:58:52 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by randyo on Fri Apr 28 17:43:52 2017. anyone know why these cars were scrapped in "DA-BRONX"and not CIY?.must have been some sight going over the hells gate bridge. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Apr 28 18:03:54 2017, in response to Re: [2 PHOTOS] Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by Edwards! on Thu Apr 27 11:56:08 2017. Not only did the TA intend to use this section for SAS service, but sometime in the 1970s, changes were made in the proposed Bx service patterns for the SAS. As originally planned, the SAS was to take over potions of the IRT Pelham Line as well as the Dyre Line. In the 1970s, it was decided to leave the Pelham Line with the IRT and instead connect the SAS to the Wh Pl Rd Line N/O E180 St since like the Pelham Line the upper portion of the Wh Pl Rd Line was built to dual contract standards and would have only required shaving back the station platforms. I suspect that the change in plans was partially due to the elimination of the 3 Av El allowing for the Wh Pl Rd line to be turned over to the B (IND) Division. Needless to say the fiscal crisis of the mid 1970s put an end probably forever to any hope of SAS service reaching the Bronx. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Fri Apr 28 18:06:27 2017, in response to Re: [2 PHOTOS] Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Thu Apr 27 20:53:46 2017. yup it was me who posted on the LAST TRAIN to run on the the interchange track,past the bus garage when he went on the ground. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Fri Apr 28 18:09:26 2017, in response to Re: [2 PHOTOS] Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by MainR3664 on Fri Apr 28 07:17:43 2017. when they were tearing it down I got on the concrete section,spoke to the guy tearing thru the concrete. he said they thought it would be a piece of cake,boy were they wrong.it was tough going.shows that it was built to last. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Fri Apr 28 19:07:17 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Fri Apr 28 00:11:18 2017. We've always insisted on proff around here, and we certainly got it this time. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Apr 28 19:24:03 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by MainR3664 on Fri Apr 28 07:23:52 2017. I wish the city/state/NYCTA/somebody could have saved/railbanked the entire ROW. It would then have been possible to revive them as subway extensions, now that the subway is in demand. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Apr 28 22:06:33 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by tunnelrat on Fri Apr 28 17:58:52 2017. It might have had something to do with the scrapper who got the contract. |
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Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Fri Apr 28 23:32:27 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by tunnelrat on Fri Apr 28 16:23:07 2017. Hello SteveWe all make tiny brain fart errors -- I try to catch mine BEFORE I hit the post button -- and usually do -- but look at the "Loretto Street" glaring memory error I made vs; the actual street name "LEBANON STREET" - and I had to come back quickly and correct it. But its the data, facts, memories, photos, etc., and first hand experiences of we few ancient dinosaurs like you and me ( well, you ARE way older than me, yourself having lunch and booze WITH Belmont on his IRT Mineola Private Car enroute thru the LIRR-IRT connection in 1909 to Belmont Race track. I. heh, was just a baby back then !!! THAT'S WHY collaboration between old dino-heads of our group-genre like us gets the rusty points of details cleaned and shined up - like the 3rd rail back and forth issues -- per my photos documenting and making it factually clearer. I value and appreciate corrections to any small mistakes I make -- so as to get the record correct for the masses - all 10 or so people of them (just joking!) - who may be actively interested in this ancient stuff way before their time ! Here BELOW is an aerial photo from 2016 you may enjoy where I put in yellow R-o-W embankment-border-lines, for comparison, to indicate the precise path of the NYW&B Railway's 2 track to 4 track path thru all the present day new complete re-development of the former railway grounds. Unbelievable that all that grand massive railway and ground is gone -- and we both were there physically walking on its roadbed many times !  And BELOW is an identical location aerial photo in 1951 of the same entire area as per the top-most present day image -- but showing 55 years earlier, the still unbuilt (but 1950 built newly-added support piers in place) Cross Bronx Expressway, and the old arch-roof former Starlight Amusement Park "Coliseum Arena" events building, used since the early 1940's for TARS trolley car shops and barn and by 1951, for Surface Transit System Corp. red & cream GMC and MACK Transit Buses.  And here BELOW is a closer down Aerial from 1951 in that same area around the E. 174th street roadway bridge, showing basically what the land in the present day photo looked like about 55 years before it was all demolished and removed between 2005 and 2007!  Its is enjoyable to me for sharing this stuff, if not also very nostalgically melancholy also for myself having been there on site so many times and now seeing it, like a part of me, all gone, vaporized. And thankful that I took the photos I did 50 to 60 years ago (but remember, you are far wayyyy ancient than me, heh!) Thanks for that added interesting info about the "signal block" but I never saw signals on the embankment and trestle portion of the ex-NYW&B line below E. 180th Street AFTER NYCTA owned it since late 1940 -- unless they installed a few signals there in the late 1990's ? The last time ever that I walked that R-o-W was in the late 1980's. regards - Joe F |
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Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Sat Apr 29 00:07:32 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by 3-9 on Fri Apr 28 19:24:03 2017. Hello 3-9Yes, you are correct. However, the countless decades of various politicians, boneheads, planners, surveys, hearings, etc etc., and transit related egg-heads had 65 years (SIXTY FIVE !!) to make use of that E.180th to E.174th street ex-NYW&B 4 track segment ! And even the R-o-W southward along the ex-NHRR now AMTRAK R-o-W's westerly abandoned 2-track ex-NYW&B former R-o-W. Long since the City in late 1940 bought the entire mint-condition 4-track Bronx Portion of the then newly closed NYW&B Railway from E. 174th St. NHRR junction to the Bronx-Mt Vernon Border line - up until when it was decided by the City and State management to have the ex-NYW&B 4 track segment below LEBANON Street south to E. 174th St Jct, all demolished and removed in increments between 2005 and 2008 ! The same mentality AND assorted (as labeled above) EARLIER versions of City Politicians and Management individuals who forced the hasty premature demolition of the Manhattan 3rd Ave EL between 8-1-1955 and 2-1956 - with their pre-demolition documented PROMISES to the Manhattan citizens that the new 2nd Ave. Subway construction would start soon (the full money was in hand for its construction) and be completed within a few years, to REPLACE the demolished and removed 3rd Avenue EL Line. Well, as we (and me) who are still alive from back then well know, and as history documents, we now finally have, SIXTY YEARS LATER (a lifetime of waiting) a newly opened - if for solely, a short two track, 3 station 2nd Avenue STUBWAY to E. 96th Street terminal, costing many Billions of today dollars - (including the decades earlier 1970's built and pre-paid for non-revenue-used tunnels extending a few blocks north of there.) So, heh, what else is new in NYC politics and government and funding ? regards - Joe F |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 29 02:30:48 2017, in response to East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by GojiMet86 on Thu Apr 20 12:30:54 2017. Those are some really ugly apartment buildings. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Apr 29 07:15:30 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Fri Apr 28 23:32:27 2017. ah,so early in the morning with all the compliments are making my eyes water.or is it allergies.the signal block I,m talking about is in the small yard just past the E180 st.station.my source is bill wall. |
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Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Sat Apr 29 07:29:23 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 29 02:30:48 2017. (Comment from Olog-hai -...." Those are some really ugly apartment buildings..." Hello Olog --- I have to agree totally -- very plain jane no frills facades -- see photos Below --- just plain f'ugly !! View BELOW in 2015 to south side of Lebanon St to new buildings built directly on the former NYW&B Railway 4 track steel trestle viaduct R-o-W;  And turning around 180 degrees, here BELOW is the scenic bucolic view in 2015, of the (I expect?) high rent (??) paying tenants get looking out their front windows north across Lebanon Street to the rusted chopped-off short stump end remains of the massive semi-denuded steel trestle work of the once grand NYW&B Railway and its long Trestle. I hope these aren't, heh, "condos" ....  NOTE the small low horizontal track girder "extension girders" seen at top left of photo, as ATTACHED on top of each of the two original huge track girders of the ex-NYW&B former S/B Local Track (as I mentioned in another message) so as to keep the new track installed upon them level so as to mate evenly with the existing former S/B Local track still on the original concrete roadbed-deck within the former NYW&B E.180th St Station ! regards - Joe F |
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Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Sat Apr 29 07:40:55 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by tunnelrat on Sat Apr 29 07:15:30 2017. Steve - you likely now are up there with crabcake --um, ohhh, CUPCAKE !...in the weed and woods filled damp environs of the BERA / Branford Trolley Museum by the salty smelly Creek-River along the R-o-W after the very heavy loud T-Storms you may have just gotten that we here in Pennsy received about 4 AM and sent especially directly up your way -- so as to make it really HUMID later this pending very hot Saturday "BERA Members Day" --hehActually, have a good time up there, watch out for those pesky armies of wasps and mosquitoes', heh Best Regards - Joe F |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Apr 29 08:24:29 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Sat Apr 29 07:29:23 2017. I think the building itself is attractive enough. It's certainly nicer to look at than the drab exteriors of the buildings in, say, Parkchester, or most City housing projects. It's just the building's location that makes it so annoying. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 29 09:41:15 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Thu Apr 27 21:18:22 2017. The world was a different place back then. |
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Posted by Michael549 on Sat Apr 29 11:46:44 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Apr 29 08:24:29 2017. Parkchester was built in the 1920's as a private housing development complex and was a major break-away from the zoning rules and city street grid of its time. The buildings upon closer inspection have a variety of architectural features meant to house large groups of people without encountering a great deal of car traffic with interior parks, playgrounds, shopping, etc.The earliest "city housing project" in the nation - the First Houses was NOT BUILT until the 1930's under very different circumstances. Where the fiscally minded tended to use similar building plans, cookie cutter designs and little architectural ornamentation. In the larger public housing developments the ideas of limiting traffic and providing interior parks and some cultural institutions were kept, while commercial places were eliminated. Plenty of folks mistake places like Cooper Village, Stuyvesant City, Parkchester, etc. and lump then with "city housing projects" - simply because they are "basic brick apartment buildings" without understanding the histories and circumstances of the various buildings. Today folks talk about wanting "transit oriented development" and "walk-able shopping streets" while "casting shade" upon the lessons learned before. Some subjects require more than 140 characters to understand! Mike |
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Posted by b/p rupture on Sat Apr 29 15:36:05 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by BMRR on Fri Apr 28 08:09:54 2017. Looks like it shows LU/1 ? Some sort of mile marker?The sign is an LU 1 sign, indicating the position of the 1st layup train in a series of layups. |
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Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Sat Apr 29 16:09:45 2017, in response to LU 1 Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by b/p rupture on Sat Apr 29 15:36:05 2017. Hello b/p THANKS for that explanation !! -- makes sense that L U = "lay up" -- but, heh, they won't be laying up anything anymore on that (formed NYW&B N/B Local track) part of the trestle BELOW, south of, the south end station of the former N/B platform any more ! Unless they re-install and re-extend that track again southward on the trestle stub to a new bumper at its end at Lebanon Street ! Regards - Joe F |
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Posted by X-Astorian on Sat Apr 29 18:05:33 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by Michael549 on Sat Apr 29 11:46:44 2017. Parkchester was started around 1939 and not completed until the early 1940s, well after several public housing projects were occupied such as Queensbridge, Williamsburg, Red Hook and several others. |
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Posted by Michael549 on Sat Apr 29 19:00:18 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by X-Astorian on Sat Apr 29 18:05:33 2017. Oops.Mike |
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Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Sat Apr 29 19:14:35 2017, in response to Re: LU 1 Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Sat Apr 29 16:09:45 2017. Hello ALLHere is an interesting video shot in May 2011, looking out the side window and filmed entirely as such, of an AMTRAK coach of a train leaving Penn Station for points North. It runs thru Queens, and then enters and passes thru and over the Hell gate bridge It crosses over the Hell Gate bridge with the side window view fimlming to the west. You may want to either watch the film to this point, or for what I specifically refer to in this film, re: ex-NYW&B R-o-W scenes, fast forward to counter # 8:40 and stop video. In the lower right SETTINGS WHEEL on the video, click-open it and click SPEED. Choose either 2.5 or 0.5 Slow-Mode speed, and re-start video. At Counter # 8:48 you will see the two original-location tracks of the long ago former NYW&B Railway curving from the NHRR-AMTRAK main westward towards the Harlem River Yards (and the one time NYW&B Willis Ave. Terminal Location) These two ex-NYW&B location tracks curving close to the angled commercial building, are freight only used now. At Counter # 8:56 you start to see the former NYW&B 2-track Catenary Towers passing by as the train descends to all-tracks-at-grade level. At Counter # 9:08 you will see and pass the remains of the former NYW&B E. 135th St - Port Morris Station platform area. The large Stone Station house was removed along the S/B platform many decades ago, and its site replaced by by the graffiti-scarred-wall building seen in the video. Here below is an AERIAL view of that station site;  I drew in the yellow lines to indicate the perimeter area of the one-time station location and its low level concrete platform remains. The two long narrow tan color panels seen along the S/B local track are the narrow concrete platforms passing over the two cross streets below (E.135th & E.136th Streets). These are supported by the outboard heavy steel Thru Deck Plate Girder that also supports the S/B track.. Continuing on in SLOW MODE -- you will easily see the entire trackless barren 2-track R-o-W of the ex-NYW&B Railway - up thru the adjacent overhead Bruckner Expressway, and up thru to and crossing the Bronx River THEN, a tiny surprise. You will be riding along and viewing the weeds and trees and shrubs growth along the trackless narrow stretch of former 2 track NYW&B R-o-W close parallel to the Bronx River at its west...and then... at COUNTER # 12:16 you will start to see a number of abandoned ties and some few sections of rail diverging away from the train -- these are the remains of the 1954 installed NHRR-NYCTA interchange track single switch to the ex-NYW&B Line up to E. 180th Street - removed in 1972 !! And the diverging weed filled trackless NYW&B R-o-W diverging to pass under the E. 174th Street Bridge. At counter # 12:22 thru 12;23 you will see the now saved in the new Starlight Parkland, the former NYW&B's own FIRST Catenary and Signal Tower and Catenary Anchor, on the NYW&B's own property, for the NYW&B's own self-powered Catenary system. It also housed the breakers which separated NHRR Cat Power from NYW&B Cat Power. Here BELOW is the link to the video: SIDE WINDOW VIEW FILMED RIDE ON AMTRAK TRAIN NORTH THRU SOUTH BRONX - 2011 For those interested in this material, enjoy ! regards - Joe F |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Apr 29 21:55:32 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Fri Apr 28 10:41:57 2017. Fantastic work, Joe. Thanks!! |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Apr 30 15:06:44 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Fri Apr 28 10:41:57 2017. Where did the NW&B elevated ramp to 180th Street begin? |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sun Apr 30 15:21:59 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by Elkeeper on Sun Apr 30 15:06:44 2017. Elkeeper: The trolley used in the 1963 movie "The Cardinal" was Seashore 396, not Shreline 1792. I was mistaken. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Apr 30 16:10:45 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sun Apr 30 15:21:59 2017. No problem! I realize that it was a long hot day up there. Great seeing you again, Larry! And the rest of the guys, too! |
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Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Sun Apr 30 16:16:04 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by Elkeeper on Sun Apr 30 15:06:44 2017. Hello Elkeeper !!Have you NOT at all been following and reading all my postings and all the photos and information and data I provided within them ??? The posting of mine that your question was linked to shows where it began... via my photos of the earthen R-o-W when intact, before being totally removed and level-graded to make the Starlight Nature Parkland. The beginning of the 4 track uphill rising earth fill embankment began slightly and gradually just under the E. 174th Street roadway bridge, where at the opposite south side of the overpass bridge, the 2 NYW&B Mainline tracks paralleling the NHRR 4 track main northward from South Bronx, then expanded into 4 tracks on the actual NYW&B owned land / property starting at that E. 174th Street approximate point. The 4 track earthen fill embankment rose gradually and gently curving from that point to a bit steeper continuous grade approaching E. 175th Street, and continued north to where the earth embankment part alongside the south end of the east wall of the Coliseum Arena Building, parallel to the Railway, was high enough to by then, there, have to be lined and secured on both sides by high exterior concrete retaining walls. The southern beginning of these two concrete retaining walls and their retained embankment went north and ended to start at the steel trestle viaduct at about 1/2 block SOUTH of the E. 177th Street crossing - where across E. 177th Street, the 4 track steel trestle viaduct continued north, it also rising gradually in a somewhat diminishing level of rising grade. The 4-track viaduct trestle Roadbed grade finally leveled out to almost flat horizontal at around the Lebanon Street Crossing and headed 1 final block north into the south end of the E. 180th St NYW&B Express Station. Regards - Joe F |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sun Apr 30 18:21:16 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by Elkeeper on Sun Apr 30 15:06:44 2017. uh,at the bottom? joe,forgive el keeper,he is a senile old man that has much,much,better days. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Apr 30 23:36:50 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by tunnelrat on Sun Apr 30 18:21:16 2017. Gee, Steve, that hurt! (sniff!). Especially after I got everyone to vote in favor of your Donald trump hairpiece! |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Apr 30 23:41:29 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Sun Apr 30 16:16:04 2017. Sorry Joe, I get here as often as I can. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Mon May 1 03:02:23 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Fri Apr 28 15:19:22 2017. Same compliments as Bill Newkirk!Great old and new photos, + captions, and your outlining the google maps section. Your post, could or might definately be the basis for an article in any Bronx Historiccal Society monthly publication (know of the group, but don't know what they publish monthly, or quarterly). |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon May 1 07:23:56 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Fri Apr 28 10:41:57 2017. AWESOME!!! I've looked at your Flickr albums of the NYWB as well. I thank you profusely for contemporaneously documenting so much of it, and for sharing your work and thoughts with us now.My first hint of the NYWB's existence was the book "Gotham Turnstiles" that I received for Chanukah in 1993. Fascinating story. Like most of us, I wish it still existed in full. I'm grateful for the Dyre Line, at least... |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon May 1 07:27:18 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Sat Apr 29 00:07:32 2017. Agree fully. |
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Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Mon May 1 10:30:54 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by MainR3664 on Mon May 1 07:23:56 2017. Hello --- Main R3664 AND EXPRESS RIDERThanks to both of you for your stated support and appreciation and enjoyment of what I have been presenting on this Thread Topic. My enjoyment is the enjoyment of and the knowledge and information provided to, persons reading same who have an active interest and desire for such visual and historical data and info...likely for some info and images they were previously unaware of. So I appreciate your interest and supporting comments -- as well as those few others who have done so in this thread. BTW, I still have a LOT MORE material to add to my FLICKR site -- over the next many weeks. Right now I am getting ready for the upcoming East Penn Traction Club Meet in 2 weeks. Here is a contemporary 2015 photo showing the uprooted and dumped aside, askew, still intact fragmented remains of the one track switch that long ago (until removed, 1972) connected to the now-new rebuilt mainline track to its left. When AMTRAK replaced the westerly track with new rail, ballast and concrete ties, they evidently just crane hoisted the rusted switch track remnant long abandoned trackside remains and simply just tossed it further west out of the way of the work crews !! The original N/B NYW&B Local track (of the 2 NYW&B tracks at that point of location), actually ran straight thru where the "new" Catenary post was after NYW&B abandonment, later installed. |
