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Re: [2 PHOTOS] Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17)

Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Mon May 1 16:16:02 2017, in response to Re: [2 PHOTOS] Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by MainR3664 on Mon May 1 14:17:25 2017.

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Hello Main R3554 --

IRT EL MUDC Cars to be retired from the IRT 3rd Avenue EL between 1954 thru end of wood EL cars (Q-Types AND IRT MUDC's) on 12-15-1956 on the remaining Bronx 3rd Ave EL portion of that EL - ended up in E. 239th St Yards. Motors and other underbody and other usable parts (controls, door motors, etc) parts were salvaged and stockpiled as needed. When parts went bad order on an operating EL Car, it was quickly changed out for a stockpiled good part to get the car back in service.

The bad order part was sent to SCRAP pile instead of repair. This was done to nurture the 3rd Ave EL MUDC Cars (until ALL of them still remaining finally had their service end on 12-15-1956)

The EL Cars were stripped of good condition usable PARTS at E. 239th Street Yard to keep ALL the remaining 3rd Ave EL cars running without having to order new parts (or make them). Motors were salvaged -- usually the entire motor truck(s) were kept at 239th St Yards.

I remember seeing a long line of EL Car motor trucks with El Type 3rd rail shoes, on a track along the east wall of the shops when I walked from Nereid Ave and north up Byron Ave back in 1954 -- to the end of the street by the S/W corner of the E.239th St Yards. There on the track along the shop wall were a long line of EL Car motor trucks

Cars having their trucks removed were FLATBED trucked to Starlight Yards. Cars that had bad motors, kept their trucks and were towed on rail from 239th st Yards, South on the White Plains Rd EL Line -- to E. 180th st area, and reversed north to be switched over to the Dyre line via the (prior to 1957) ONE ONLY existing connection track, and then run south along the ex-NYW&B S/B Local track, thru the E. 180th St Station S/B island platform, and down the NYW&B trestle viaduct on that track, to the layup near Cross Bronx X-way. And, one by one, when the time came, uncoupled and rolled down that track to the "derail" location point -- and I previously told you all the rest.

When the 3rd Ave EL ceased wood car operation on the Bronx remnant by the end of 12-15-1956, the remaining in-service MUDC cars (except for a number kept as work motors until about early 1958) were taken under power to E. 239th St yards --- and gradually run under their power to the Dyre Line via the above described maneuvers, and operated to their doom on the ex-NYW&B S/B local track, to the scrap track

From what I remember riding the Bronx 3rd Ave EL after 5-12-1955 (and took a few photos) up thru Dec 15,1956 - the EL operated local trains of 6 ALL MOTOR Car MUDC's, and 6 Car Local Trains of Q Types in M-T-M / M-T-M consists. The MUDC trailers were quickly sent to scrap at Starlight - via RAIL mostly - in groups of coupled trailers, between June-July 1955 & mid 1956. The Q Types did most of the 24 hour Bronx 3rd AVE EL service with the IRT EL MUDC's used as rush hour extra locals

Of course, the Q's AFTER Dec 15,1956,were layup-stored on the Bronx 3rd Ave EL (post-5-12-1955 deactivated) center express track, which still kept its EL style 3rd Rail even after the local tracks were changed to subway style positioned covered Third Rail between early to late 1957, for use by steel ex-subway IRT Steinway cars running as trains of 6 motor cars.

The Q's needed the EL style 3rd rail ro remain on the center former express track to allow them to be removed under their own power, via the center express track, north to Gun Hill Road and connection to the White Plains Rd line, in various groups, to eventually by reverse moves, make their way south to E. 180th St, and eventually (and THATS another transfer story !) to BMT Coney Island Shops to be overhauled for BMT Myrtle Ave El service.

The IRT White Plains Rd EL Line had DUAL 3rd rails (as did parts of 239th St Yards) south to E. 180th Street for IRT EL CAR access under power to E. 180th St Shops and yards - as well as to and on to the NYW&B 2 local tracks fitted with single EL style 3rd rail BELOW the NYW&B E.180th St Station...down almost to Starlight park scrap yards.

The dual 3rd rail south of E. 180th St on the IRT White Plains Rd Line EL, which extended down to the 3rd Ave EL "Bergen Cutoff", (abandoned since 1947) was finally changed by 1951. After the Bergen Cut-Off EL connection (to the 3rd Ave EL) was demolished in late 1950, EL style 3rd rail was removed as there was no further reason for EL cars to need to operate that far south (near the subway tunnel portion part of the EL) on the White Plains Rd "Westchester Avenue" part of the line.

regards - Joe F

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