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Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Wed May 3 16:37:16 2017, in response to Re: [2 PHOTOS] Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by randyo on Wed May 3 15:23:34 2017. Hello Randy-OBecause as work motors (the Motored "A" cars) and the Trailer "B" cars as rider, tools, and materials (ie as "boxcars")cars -- they had to be able to clear both ALL IRT and ALL BMT - IND subway tunnels in work and transfer services. Most subway tunnels of the IRT, BMT and IND could not clear the about 13" higher variably by EL car (*) class and design, clerestory roofs but 13" being the highest clerestory roof El car). IRT and BMT wooden EL car clerestory roofs were about between 11 to 13 inches higher than steel subway car roofs of the IND, BMT and IRT. (*)NOTE: Some older EL car roofs were lower at only 12 to 11 inches approx. high; The QX cars were fitted with subway type PADDLE 3rd rail shoes, as were the 3-car set Q TYPES -- for use as newly converted to MUDC EL cars, for 1939 to late 1949 Flushing & Astoria shuttle service. When the Q Types went to 3rd Ave El service, their Peckham BMT Trucks with Subway Paddle Shoes, on the A & C Motor cars, were removed, and IRT Composite Trucks were installed on the A & C motor car Q's and had the Manhattan EL style "EL" 3rd rail drop sled contact shoes. The Q type Trailer "B" cars still retained their two motor-less BMT Peckham Trucks in 3rd Avenue EL service. The QX units when re-classed as non-revenue-use stock, at the very end of 1949, still retained their BMT Peckham trucks (A & B cars) as well as the subway type paddle 3rd rail shoes. SO with some of those QX units gradually having their roofs newly lowered between 1950 and 51, and as thus keeping the subway 3rd rail paddle shoes, they could travel and be used as motor-horses (or rider cars) in work train service on ANY part of the IRT, BMT and IND system. For example, a work train of 3 QX Motor A "low-roofed" cars was used as motor-horses coupled together on the Flushing & Astoria lines in the 1950 - 1955 period and was able to run into the Flushing Line Subway to Manhattan as well as also into the BMT 60th Street tunnel to Manhattan with their roofs lowered. Unlike a Q type (or QX) still with its original high-clerestory roof. Not all the QX cars had their roofs lowered - a few ended up used in Coney Island Ave. X yards (and on MacDonald Avenue trackage)and in the 36th St yards - as work horses with TROLLEY POLES mounted on their high original roofs to run under the Culver EL (MacDonald Ave.) on trolley wire between Ave. X and 36th St Yards ! Used to transfer rail cars, work cars, materials, etc. regards - Joe F |
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