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Re: [2 PHOTOS] Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17) |
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Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Tue May 2 23:47:48 2017, in response to Re: [2 PHOTOS] Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by Elkeeper on Tue May 2 20:44:14 2017. Hello EL KeeperNO -- There were not enough BMT EL QX units to handle Myrtle Avenue El service in 1950-51 -- which still had a heavy ridership compared to say, 1965 thru 1969. There were only 13 sets of 2-car-unit QX Units -- 26 cars, 13 being motor " A " cars with ONE 2-motors truck, and 13 being Control Trailer " B " Cars (no motors, but had one cab with operator controls) - QX Type Units were numbered 1630 thru 1642 There were 30 sets of 3-car-unit Q-Type Units -- 60 cars (A & C cars) being motor cars with ONE 2-motors truck when used in BMT Queens "Shuttle" Service - and 30 Trailer "B" cars. All those cars retained their original BMT Peckham trucks and their 2 powerful motors in each of the motor trucks. Q-Type Units were numbered 1600 thru 1629 Transferred to the IRT 3rd Avenue EL in March thru May 1950, the Q-type consists remained the same, except now each A & C motor car had their heavier and more powerful BMT Notor trucks removed and lighter ex-Composite Car IRT trucks installed, (due to the lightweight 1878 constructed Manhattan 3rd Ave EL) with each motor truck having only ONE motored wheelset on each of the two trucks under each motor car. The trailer cars retained their original BMT trailer trucks. These Q types all went to the Myrtle EL between March and May 1958, the Motor A & C cars still retaining the IRT "Composite Car" maximum traction style trucks - and ran until late October 1969 on the BMT Myrtle Ave El, replacing my mid 1958, all BMT 1300 series all motor EL gate cars. QX Units were designed for Flushing & Astoria "Queens" BMT Shuttle service to allow more flexibility with their Q-Type sisters. This is some of the consists that were capable of being run on those Flushing and Astoria EL lines between 1939 and 1949 3 car consist -- a 3-car Q Type Unit (ONE trailer) 5 car consist -- a 3-car Q Type Unit + a 2-car QX Type Unit -- (TWO trailers) 6 car consist -- a 3-car Q Type Unit + a 3-car Q Type Unit --(TWO trailers) 7 car consist -- a 3-car Q Type Unit + TWO 2-car QX Type Units -- (THREE trailers) 8 car consist - TWO 3-car Q Type Units + a 2-car QX Type Unit -- (FOUR trailers) And remember, those Q Type and QX type motor cars all had their original larger-motor powerful Peckham Motor Trucks in Queens 1939 to 1949 services. The then-IRT operated Flushing and Astoria EL's could hand 9 or 10 car IRT cars at stations, so the Q / QX Types could be assembled in peak 1939 and 1940 Worlds Fair Traffic periods, to create up to 8 car consists Regards - Joe F |