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Re: [2 PHOTOS] Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17) |
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Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Tue May 2 20:17:30 2017, in response to Re: [2 PHOTOS] Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue May 2 19:16:43 2017. Nothing prevented them from 3rd Ave El service --- but because the Q's generally ran in TWO 3-car sets -- for a 6 car express train on the IRT 3rd Ave El, and were about 1 1/2 feet longer than a Manhattan El Car, two reasons why the QX (at least the MOTOR CARS) could not be used.(a) --IRT MUDC and Gate cars could run SEVEN car expresses because most express platforms could easily handle 7 IRT EL cars with their rear car or (and/or) first car vestibule (or open platform) end extending out a bit beyond the platform ends. The MUDC EL cars could have their end doors at the rear car, and first car, cut out from the MUDC System (b) -- However, a 6 car consist of Q types would be 9 feet LONGER than a 6 car IRT EL Express. Most express platforms could easily berth ALL DOORS of an IRT EL MUDC (or Gate Car) consist with at least 8 feet variably of spare platform at each end of such platforms. 16 feet Total approx. Therefore, a 6 car Q Type consist could be berthed with all doors safely within the platform. (c) -- Also a 6 car express train of IRT Composites could easily berth at such platforms -- even tho their END doors (all manually controlled doors) at first car and rear car - were not used. A 7 Car train of composites could also be berthed -- with the rear car end doors and first car end doors, outside the platform...and the center doors of the composites could be opened or left closed at the first and rear car at the discretion of the conductor and his door operating assistants. (d) HOWEVER, a SEVEN CAR consist of Q Types - using a QX Motor Car as the rear car, (or front car) would have the quarter-point located door at the front end of the first car, and the rear car rear door, located beyond the platform ends. And the doors could not be cut out on the Q Types without lifting up the seat cushion adjacent to those doors to get to the "bad order door" cut out switch. Not easy to do in a packed rush Hour Express using ONE CONDUCTOR standing mid train! So the QX Motor cars were alternately used as work train work horses on the IRT --- and the control-trailer car mates became work train rider cars, and some became pump car "hose cars". Also, the 3rd Ave EL had more than enough 6 car consists of standard Q Types to maintain the AM and PM ONLY express services, backed up with quite many extra IRT EL MUDC consists used as expresses. Some motor QX units had roof mounted poles applied to be used as Horses at BMT 36th St Yards and Coney Island Ave X Yards. Regards - Joe F Webmaster |
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