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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 19 13:04:11 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 10:56:41 2015. That would be true if I was the only one to suggest that, but I wasn't. It is a possibility that has not or possibly cannot be proven. What would you say if new evidence arises suggesting that it did happen. You would find any reason not to believe it, because it s something you don't want to believe. You would not look at the evidence objectively because it has to be a "hairbrained" conspiracy because conspiracies cannot exist since you labeled all of them as "hairbrained". |
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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Nov 19 13:04:57 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 10:57:32 2015. Exactly. Thank you. |
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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 19 13:05:23 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 22:08:18 2015. And a "hairbrained" one at that. |
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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 19 13:07:15 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 22:24:15 2015. I guess no apology is forthcoming. |
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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 13:07:23 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 19 12:58:41 2015. 1. I don't care. Opinions aren't facts.2. Do I have to repeat myself? "You still remembered this person. Forgetting doesn't mean that the memory is lost, just that's it's not readily available to your conscious mind." Yes, it is plausible. It is certainly more possible than psychic powers. 3. It is completely relevant because you are using your bias in favor of the existence of psychic powers to "prove" that they exist. 4. No, I believe that you remember things to have happened a certain way. I am just speculating on valid, plausible explanations and not chalking up the weird stuff to obvious bullshit like psychic powers as you are. 5. OK, someone else made up psychic powers and you just follow along. That's the same thing. 6. Apparently you've never heard of the word "theory." That is not how "theory" works in science. "A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation." Psychic powers are consequently not a theory. Evolution is an example. That doesn't mean that evolution isn't a fact. If you required definitive proof of eveyrthing, then for all you know the world is just your dream. There is no way to prove that it isn't! |
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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 19 13:08:58 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 10:57:32 2015. Totally untrue. |
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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Nov 19 13:09:34 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 12:59:52 2015. Good post. |
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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 13:10:04 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 19 13:04:11 2015. If new evidence arises that it did happen, then I would believe that it happened. Until then I believe the more plausible explanation.If what you say is true, then there would have to be a major conspiracy, and that conspiracy would have many players over many decades and the truth WOULD have come out. So the "alternate" possibility here is so remote as to be easily discounted. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 19 13:10:06 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 11:35:59 2015. I was talking about the U2 incident, not Roswell. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 13:11:18 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 19 13:05:23 2015. Why do you keep spelling it that way when the correct spelling has already been used? |
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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 13:12:27 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 19 11:28:38 2015. Even if they acknowledge that they were wrong and you were right, why does that merit an apology? |
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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 19 13:12:36 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 12:24:12 2015. Never claimed to have any psychic powers. You are making up shit again. I was merely stating some circumstances which cannot be logically explained today for which you cam up with some implausible explanations. |
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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 13:13:45 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 19 13:10:06 2015. I brought up Roswell as an example of an explanation different from the official one being plausible. As opposed to the Kennedy assassination where it is not. |
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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Nov 19 13:14:09 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 19 11:54:01 2015. There was an age cut off in the released version which was 18 years of age. What I stated was that we do not know if there were any other versions of the study they did with a higher cutoff age.It doesn't matter if there were any other studies done or what the results of those studies were as long as the age cutoff of 18 is appropriate. Is it? Have they ever published a study with an inappropriate age cutoff? Only the ones with the results the sponsors are satisfied with are published. If the results are not as expected, studies are redone with slightly different parameters. That's why I take all studies with a grain of salt.And they release those parameters. And if any of the parameters are suspect, then you can call them out for that and use that as a reason to discredit that particular study. But if you can't claim that any of the parameters are inappropriate, then you shouldn't be doubting the study. |
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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Nov 19 13:14:38 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 12:53:37 2015. I agree. |
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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 13:15:29 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 19 13:12:36 2015. No, I came up with LOGICAL explanations. |
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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Nov 19 13:16:07 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 19 12:39:23 2015. Which of your posts was a joke, and/or which of the joke posts made by others can you identify as a joke, and did you respond to said post jokingly or seriously? Once you reply, we can evaluate whether your posts were actually jokes. Because just because you say it was a joke doesn't mean it came across as one to a normal person. |
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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 13:19:09 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Nov 19 13:16:07 2015. I would have thought of his post about the Atlantic elevator in 1965 to be a joke, but I wasn't responding to that anyway. It's just that I decided to post that in that particular part of the thread. |
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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 19 13:19:18 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 12:59:52 2015. Yes I first assumed he was too young to remember the blackout. Also, I never changed my mind. I later stated that there was another possibility that he could have been alive and lived in another part of the country. How is that inconsistent?I never made any such assumption that he knew about the blackout because he posted here for a very long time. Someone else made that statement to prove he is reliable. Go back and reread the posts again. I won't say you have a reading comprehension problem this time, only that you are confused. Yes, "youth" is a relevant term, but in the context you used it, you meant someone much younger than myself, not someone who may be 50. |
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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 19 13:21:04 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Nov 19 11:59:30 2015. No problem with that. I understood your post perfectly. I was referring to his statement about someone being born five minutes ago not being 50. |
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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 19 13:21:23 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 12:22:08 2015. Let him speak for himself. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 13:23:08 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 19 13:19:18 2015. No, I didn't. I know what I meant. I meant "youth" in the sense of "younger than someone else."It's inconsistent because then you decided to claim that my related comment about median age was itself inconsistent. I know that R36 is significantly younger, so it was not assumption I had to make. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 13:24:10 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 19 13:21:04 2015. Is that not factually correct? Is a person born five minutes ago actually 50? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 13:24:35 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 19 13:21:23 2015. Why? His posts are clear. |
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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Nov 19 13:31:26 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Nov 19 13:16:07 2015. Obviously he is joking when he says he was director of bus planning! |
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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Nov 19 13:33:08 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 19 13:05:23 2015. No, not at all. You're sharing way more than most other people here would share. So it was worth a shot asking for the sharing of money. |
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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Nov 19 13:33:44 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 19 13:07:15 2015. Did you read what I wrote? |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Nov 19 13:33:57 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 19 13:08:58 2015. No, it's true. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 19 14:15:26 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 12:28:54 2015. Yes, remember Dan Lawrence. :( |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 19 14:38:37 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator, posted by R30A on Thu Nov 19 13:31:26 2015. LOL |
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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 19 14:41:25 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 19 13:21:23 2015. Now you sound like chicagomotorman. Is that who you want to be associated with? |
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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 19 15:28:00 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 12:28:54 2015. It's funny that none of my actual friends (and i dont mean Facebook friends) have noticed anything. I suppose they all must have dementia too. Anyway it is nothing to make fun of. It is a very sad condition and can wreak havoc on one's family. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 15:29:47 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 19 15:28:00 2015. Yes, that is true. Which is why I would be sad if it turned out to be true. If it were true, then of course they would humor you. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 19 15:29:52 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 19 14:15:26 2015. I know he used to post here. Haven't seen the name in awhile but I can guess the rest. That's very unfortunate. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 15:30:08 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 15:29:47 2015. I meant could, not would. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 19 22:30:26 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 15:30:08 2015. If it were true, they would tell me to get help. That's what friends are for. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Nov 20 08:35:08 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 19 22:30:26 2015. Only if they are really your friends. Maybe they are. But hey also don't recognize that you are often wrong. So I question their intelligence. |
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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Nov 20 09:48:31 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by SLRT on Thu Nov 19 11:35:45 2015. I remember that "Officer" Joe Bolton was promoted to "Chief" when he started hosting Dick Tracy, so that he would seem to be the one being addressed when Tracy said "OK Chief, I'll get on it right away." Later he went back to be just an officer when he went from that show to (I think) The 3 Stooges. |
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Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Fri Nov 20 10:39:55 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by SLRT on Thu Nov 19 11:35:45 2015. Do you remember "Smilin' Ed's Gang" (wasn't he the "Pluck Your Magic Twanger, Froggy" guy), or was that Andy Devine after Ed died?I recall a show by the name of Andy's Gang. It was hosted by Andy Devine and they used to filmed segments of the jungle boy with SABU. There were three animals on the show IIRC, Froggy the frog and Midnight the Cat. The show was on early Saturday mornings. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Fri Nov 20 11:21:31 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Fri Nov 20 10:39:55 2015. Andy's gang can be seen on you tube. Karl |
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Posted by SLRT on Fri Nov 20 11:48:09 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Fri Nov 20 10:39:55 2015. Andy's Gang succeeded Smilin' Ed when the latter died. It was probably my first experience of learning someone I had become familiar with (via TV) had died. |
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Posted by SLRT on Fri Nov 20 11:53:47 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Fri Nov 20 10:39:55 2015. From Wikipedia:"Smilin' Ed brought Froggy and the whole gang to television in 1950, and some of the shows were filmed in primitive color. He was one of the kiddie world's most beloved and jolly fat men, six feet tall and weighing over 250 pounds. After his death, Andy Devine took over the show, and ironically it is "Andy's Gang" that most people now remember." Ed died in 1954. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smilin'_Ed_McConnell |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Nov 20 16:20:06 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 13:07:23 2015. You are the one who is requiring definitive proof not me because you insist that if there is no scientific proof "it is bullshit." My friend's life was saved after cancer was discovered in three places by an unapproved experimental drug that showed some promise in France. There was no scientific proof that it really worked. If the doctor chose to wait for the proof which came three years later when it was approved in the US, he would have died. Yet the doctor took a chance. So I suppose saving his life was just bullshit.I am merely stating there are phenomena for which we have no plausible explanations. You are the one who brought up psychic powers, not me. I never got into a debate on that with you and will not. You are insisting there are plausible explanations. My dream predicted I would see a certain person six monhts in advance and he would make a certain statement. A person I barely knew and even disliked who I deliberately tried to avoid when I really did see him. Yet, he made the same or very similar statement to the one in my dream. Yet you insist a plausible explanation is either I subconsciously wanted to meet him or I fabricated the entire dream or do not remember what happened at the reunion and am fabricating that also because people have faulty memories. You are conveniently manipulating the facts to fit into your pre-determined conclusions. I am not saying psychic powers exist but I am open to believing they may exist. There is a difference. Your mind is just closed. My sister described what she dreamt or thought to have dreamt and gave an exact description of what actually happened which was not your usual urban mugging when she didn't even know I was mugged, and because of your bias your plausible explanation is that she misremembered her dream, I misremembered what she said to me or I do not accurately remember the circumstances how I was mugged or I imagined the mugging entirely. That is your "plausible" explanation of events because you believe they were unremarkable and just ordinary occurrences because no one can give a proper explanation for the events. |
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Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Fri Nov 20 20:02:12 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Nov 20 09:48:31 2015. That's where I remember Joe from, although I didn't (and still don't) watch the Stooges much. I did, however, watch Captain Jack McCarthy and Popeye all the time...I was more into Bugs Bunny on channel 5. |
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Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Fri Nov 20 20:04:31 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Fri Nov 20 11:21:31 2015. you can find just about ANYthing on YT...except there's not much of Sandy Becker, unfortunately.. |
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Posted by Bob Andersen on Sat Nov 21 16:10:39 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Fri Nov 20 10:39:55 2015. Don't forget Squeaky the mouse!Also, Billy Gilbert appeared on the show several times. |
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Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Sat Nov 21 16:15:53 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Bob Andersen on Sat Nov 21 16:10:39 2015. Just to sneeze, no doubt... |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 21 16:34:35 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Nov 20 16:20:06 2015. There is no evidence whatsoever that dreams have any outside influences. That's why my explanations are plausible and yours aren't. |
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Posted by northshore on Sat Nov 21 20:22:42 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Sat Nov 21 16:15:53 2015. It's Howdy Doody time |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Nov 22 11:33:25 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by northshore on Sat Nov 21 20:22:42 2015. Never did like Howdy Doody. Nosir.I did like Clarabelle and Chief Thunderthud, though the former ridiculed people with poor fashion sense and the latter was an an egregious example of Cultural Appropriation, |
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