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Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Nov 30 11:41:54 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Nov 30 10:55:45 2014. The LIRR offered the City the Whitestone line ROW before abandonment.They did not offer it at the time of the Dual Contracts or the extension to Flushing. They only offered it after they could not compete. They went to the trouble of electrifying it and offering direct Penn Sta service. It did not help. It was a very short line that served very few customers and very little room for expansion. The entire Port Washington Branch would have been worth grabbing. The LIRR wasn't offering that. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Nov 30 11:57:22 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 27 16:38:23 2014. You never post anything right!!! Bet you a bent car token you can't post anything correct!!!! By the way you are the only one here who keeps changing his name!!!!Edwards is always right!!!! |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Nov 30 12:09:21 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 26 23:15:21 2014. Who would want to hire him? I assume he has some sort of income, or that his wife is working. |
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Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 30 12:29:38 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Nov 30 11:57:22 2014. WADL in every way! |
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Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Nov 30 13:17:42 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Nov 30 11:41:54 2014. LIRR was begrudgingly willing to have the Flushing Line extension along the ROW to Bayside, and we see the evidence of that in the cut thru Murray Hill, but they really were not much interested in negotiating. |
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Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Nov 30 13:52:02 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Nov 30 08:53:46 2014. Thanks! |
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Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Nov 30 14:00:23 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 30 12:29:38 2014. Why? |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Nov 30 14:06:07 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 30 12:29:38 2014. 4 in 1!!! |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Nov 30 14:14:28 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Joe V on Sun Nov 30 13:17:42 2014. the brt was also supposed to be part of this also. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Nov 30 14:42:20 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by AlM on Sun Nov 30 14:06:07 2014. Why? |
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Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Nov 30 15:52:37 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Joe V on Sun Nov 30 09:29:07 2014. Being an outdoor station, Metro might be easier than Essex even with the possibility of having to relocate the switches. |
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Re: Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line/Queens Boulevard Effects |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Nov 30 15:58:21 2014, in response to Re: Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line/Queens Boulevard Effects, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 27 20:36:28 2014. I wonder why it is that the oldest part of a city tends to become the "financial district". At least that is what happened in both New York and London. More than just coincidence? |
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Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Nov 30 16:48:02 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Nov 29 19:59:50 2014. All four tracks have thirty trains per hour potential.. with Hillside being able to turn them all...The problem here is Continental ave being used as a terminal,instead of a through station. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Nov 30 18:25:49 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Edwards! on Sun Nov 30 16:48:02 2014. But Ctl was designed to be both as were Church Av and Euclid Av. |
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Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 30 21:40:16 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 30 12:29:38 2014. WADL in every way!I agree with this post! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 30 21:41:28 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by AlM on Sun Nov 30 14:06:07 2014. 4 in 1!!!LOL!!! So true!!! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 30 21:41:53 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Edwards! on Sun Nov 30 14:42:20 2014. Why?Bookmarked. |
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Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Nov 30 22:48:14 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 30 21:41:53 2014. Bookmark this too..Eat a dick,Whinberg.. |
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Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Nov 30 22:57:19 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Edwards! on Sun Nov 30 22:48:14 2014. What a response |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 30 23:09:18 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Nov 30 22:57:19 2014. Yeah, it floored me. I need a cigarette. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 30 23:10:55 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Edwards! on Sun Nov 30 22:48:14 2014. Why do you want me to commit an act of homosexual sex if you believe such an act is morally wrong? Wouldn't you be forcing me to sin? Wouldn't that then be a sin on you? |
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Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Nov 30 23:11:26 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Nov 30 22:57:19 2014. Right..I'll do better next time. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Nov 30 23:12:35 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 30 23:10:55 2014. Eat a dick.Get a job,asshole. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 30 23:16:08 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Edwards! on Sun Nov 30 23:12:35 2014. Why do you want me to commit an act of homosexual sex if you believe such an act is morally wrong? Wouldn't you be forcing me to sin? Wouldn't that then be a sin on you? |
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Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Nov 30 23:18:18 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Edwards! on Sun Nov 30 23:12:35 2014. The Silhouettes! |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Nov 30 23:19:28 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 30 23:16:08 2014. Eat a dick,asshole. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Nov 30 23:23:45 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 30 23:09:18 2014. Eat a dick,Asshole. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Dec 1 07:15:55 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Nov 26 17:58:55 2014. I work for a State agency, and I can tell you that my colleagues, especially the old timers, many of whom are now retired, specialized in cheap food.The ate lunch every day at places that literally got me sick... the attraction of paying $3.35 for 1.5 lbs. of slop outweighed the probability that it was scavenged from dumpsters... |
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Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now |
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Posted by fdtutf on Mon Dec 1 10:56:02 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Edwards! on Sun Nov 30 23:19:28 2014. Those are two separate sex acts. Which one are you asking him to perform? |
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Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Dec 1 12:54:35 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by 3-9 on Wed Nov 26 16:01:58 2014. There isn't even any room on the QB Express tracks to Rockaway trains so why waste the money? |
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Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Dec 1 13:14:02 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by fdtutf on Mon Dec 1 10:56:02 2014. lol |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Dec 1 13:17:46 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Nov 27 11:52:46 2014. Yet somehow Woodhaven Blvd is still a traffic disaster, the buses that operate that corridor are at capacity (even after a restructuring that allowed the Q53 to relieve pressure off the locals). The demand is clearly there. The city and its needs have changed from "geographic and historic" realities/patterns or whatever you want to call them. Try eliminating the G and see what that does to congestion in the Bed-Stuy/Williamsburg/Greenpoint areas when everyone either has to drive or take the bus. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Dec 1 13:56:09 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 30 23:09:18 2014. That's stupid!!! Smoking can kill you eventually!!!! It killed my father at 62!!!! |
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Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Dec 1 14:01:41 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by sloth on Thu Nov 27 21:49:44 2014. The idea of using RBB as an XBL is interesting...Question about QB express ridership though: What percentage of QB express ridership is boarding at Roosevelt (be it from preceding local stations or from the Woodhaven Blvd buses)? The thought here is that if it's a significant amount, then curtail QB express service by that amount south of Roosevelt and redirect it down the RBB. Even if it worked from a ridership POV, operationally it sucks because RBB trains would have to cross in front of QB locals to reach the express tracks :( |
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Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Dec 1 14:04:08 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by randyo on Sat Nov 29 21:34:44 2014. This is why I'm curious as to what percentage of QB Express riders are joining the line at Roosevelt |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Dec 1 14:26:30 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Dec 1 13:56:09 2014. WADL |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 1 15:52:39 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Dec 1 14:26:30 2014. ??? |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Dec 1 19:00:50 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Dec 1 12:54:35 2014. Then run them on the local tracks. Very simple. |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Mon Dec 1 19:53:57 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Joe V on Mon Dec 1 19:00:50 2014. Yes. Why can't that done. Just extend the M down the branch. Terminate at Rockaway Park during rush hours (replacing the Rock Park Shuttle and A during those hours) and Howard Beach other times (retaining the Shuttle). |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Mon Dec 1 19:54:29 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Joe V on Mon Dec 1 19:00:50 2014. Yes. Why can't that be done? Just extend the M down the branch. Terminate at Rockaway Park during rush hours (replacing the Rock Park Shuttle and A during those hours) and Howard Beach other times (retaining the Shuttle). |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 1 20:38:32 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by AlM on Mon Dec 1 15:52:39 2014. My post was not "stupid". And in the context of my post, the rest of Dan Lawrence's post WAS stupid. |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Dec 1 21:12:00 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Mon Dec 1 19:53:57 2014. I was simply commenting on the idea of rebuilding the area of the bellmouths so that the RBB could reach the express tracks without crossing the local tracks. I agree that it should just simply be an extension of a QB local to Rockaway Park. If there ends up being a need for a super express (which I think we will see) then that's another project, but it won't happen until the need proven. |
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Posted by Michael549 on Mon Dec 1 21:43:17 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Dec 1 21:12:00 2014. From another message:"I was simply commenting on the idea of rebuilding the area of the bellmouths so that the RBB could reach the express tracks without crossing the local tracks. I agree that it should just simply be an extension of a QB local to Rockaway Park. If there ends up being a need for a super express (which I think we will see) then that's another project, but it won't happen until the need proven." On the upper level of the #2, #3, #4 & #5 trains railroad north of the Franklin Avenue station in Brooklyn, currently #2 trains bound for Flatbush Avenue take the track switch that veers off of the local track. The #5 trains bound for Flatbush Avenue have to cross from the express track to the local, and then use the same track switch as the above noted #2 train to the trek to Flatbush Avenue. What is interesting is the wish to not create another situation like the one described above, while noting that rebuilding the track complex is gonna be a really tough project upon a very heavily traveled train pathway. Some things are really so much easier during the pre-building phase of a subway line and its extensions. Imagine a middle track diverging route setup (like south 59th Street/CC) for the proposed RBB extension, plus all of the other diverging route/track setups for the Queens Blvd. That would make for a pretty complicated train pathway for the whole line. Mike |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Dec 1 21:59:53 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by MainR3664 on Mon Dec 1 07:15:55 2014. " the attraction of paying $3.35 for 1.5 lbs. of slop outweighed the probability that it was scavenged from dumpsters... "They got to be "old timers" so it couldn't have been that bad!:) |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Dec 1 22:35:34 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by fdtutf on Mon Dec 1 10:56:02 2014. Are you watching Sleepy Hollow?Really great show...too bad the show is going on hiatus. My XO use to say "You treat each on a first come,first serve basis... Their Attitude will show you all you need to know..Give em hell if they show you hell." No problem.. I'll give'em hell.. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 1 23:36:50 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Edwards! on Mon Dec 1 22:35:34 2014. We're laughing AT you, not with you! |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Dec 2 01:17:25 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 1 23:36:50 2014. Yeah..and?You Still don't get it. Its never been about me...its Always been about YOU. That's what makes YOU an Asshole. You do the Same dumb shit..then Cry about it to everyone when you get checked. So we will Continue to make this about you,in the harshest manner possible, until You stop being an Asshole...regardless of what you say.. twist whine cry whatever.. So ASSHOLE,continue to be an ASSHOLE,while I keep rubbing your nose in your shit. |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Tue Dec 2 01:50:33 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Michael549 on Mon Dec 1 21:43:17 2014. I think it's safe to say that the Eastern Pkwy tracks are not nearly as utilized as the QB tracks are |
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Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Dec 2 07:40:23 2014, in response to Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by Edwards! on Tue Dec 2 01:17:25 2014. So what you are saying is that you are in denial, because as I just told you, we are laughing AT you, not with you. Now have you figured out yet if you like dick or ass better? You seem preoccupied with those two body parts. LOL! |
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Re: Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line/Queens Boulevard Effects |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Dec 2 12:54:09 2014, in response to Re: Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line/Queens Boulevard Effects, posted by merrick1 on Fri Nov 28 08:51:42 2014. I was talking about PERCEPTION, which sometimes trumps reality in the eyes of some.Anyway, as I would now do it (and this would actually be my preferred way anyhow): A revived (V) train runs 2nd Avenue-Rockaway Park at all times (eliminating the Rockaway Park shuttle entirely). The (M) and (R) are both extended to 179th Street at least during peak hours and at other times as warranted to avoid a conga line that can delay this new (V) otherwise. This actually could be 24/7 if warranted with the (E) and (F) if so express in Queens on their full routes at all times. |
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