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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Douce Man on Fri Aug 19 01:12:03 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Aug 18 15:50:41 2005. If there has to be any doctored pics, at least come up with something we have't seen. |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Douce Man on Fri Aug 19 01:12:54 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Aug 18 15:52:38 2005. So is the website serious or not? |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Douce Man on Fri Aug 19 01:14:08 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 15:56:42 2005. The yard was put to the side. Not in the way. |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Douce Man on Fri Aug 19 01:16:06 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 16:53:55 2005. NYC had an egg laid on Wall Street then Germany looked to its east. |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Douce Man on Fri Aug 19 01:20:02 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Aug 19 00:43:58 2005. That was the otginal plan for the IND Second System line over there. |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Douce Man on Fri Aug 19 01:31:35 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by tunnel rat on Thu Aug 18 22:05:16 2005. I thought that underground yard om the IRT was between 137 and 145 streets. |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by 7 to Main St on Fri Aug 19 02:40:33 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Aug 19 00:30:36 2005. LOL, that was actually funny. |
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Posted by vengence on Fri Aug 19 02:53:13 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Avid Reader on Wed Aug 17 08:53:59 2005. From what I understand,the road was built that way because of Robet Moses's Bushwick Express/Cross-Brooklyn expressway.There is no doubt in my mind that the IND intended to build past Euclid ave..that is untill the funding dried up.Even when they did get money in the 50's,the Board Of Transportation decided NOT to push the line under Pitkin ave,but DID connect to the Fulton EL and the Rockaway line..as THIS turned out to be the less expensive routing. If the bottom did drop out,and WW2 didn't happen AND if the TA grew a pair..then MAYBE we would have a subway under Linden Blvd in Queens today. |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by vengence on Fri Aug 19 02:56:25 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Aug 19 00:43:58 2005. They went the cheap route.What the BoT should have done since they chose not to build the Pitkin subway,was build the Jamaica Ave route to Cypress Hills connecting to the Jamaica El. |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by vengence on Fri Aug 19 03:03:32 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Aug 17 09:17:50 2005. Not true.Its there for the planned Bushwick expressway that was never built. |
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Re: 76th Street and other 'mysteries'. |
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Posted by vengence on Fri Aug 19 03:15:38 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street and other 'mysteries'., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 18 11:07:03 2005. 110th to 120th.Also the section from 99th to just about 105th street. There is a bored out rock tunnel under Second avenue also that wasn't finished,but they never talk about that section,only the completed parts. |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by vengence on Fri Aug 19 03:18:32 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 15:01:16 2005. No.your confused. |
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Re: 76th Street subway station.Victim of City Corruption? |
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Posted by vengence on Fri Aug 19 03:25:39 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 18 20:40:03 2005. Funny you should say that.The MTA tried to make 63rd st AND Archer avenue "go away"...but the FEDS MADE them complete the projects. The two projects were knee deep in corruption,and the MTA wanted to forget it ever happened. Ask Al DiMato..Im sure he knows all about it. |
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Re: 76th Street and other 'mysteries'. |
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Posted by vengence on Fri Aug 19 04:00:18 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street and other 'mysteries'., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 18 11:51:29 2005. Speaking of Broadway..there is an area at the far end of the platform..[you'd see it from the last car of the G train] just outside the station wall...that look like a very wide passageway.The station wall there looks like it was an after thought...with a steel linked door blocking entry on the left. I'm sure that this was an direct transfer faculity built for the upper level station. |
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Re: Sewer Lines Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by American Pig on Fri Aug 19 04:50:25 2005, in response to Re: Sewer Lines Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Douce Man on Wed Aug 17 12:02:48 2005. No, the Conduit system was for Brooklyn. |
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Re: posting |
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Posted by American Pig on Fri Aug 19 04:52:20 2005, in response to Re: posting, posted by TheGreatOne2k5 on Tue Aug 16 18:23:54 2005. I agree. |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by American Pig on Fri Aug 19 04:57:29 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by tunnel rat on Tue Aug 16 23:49:49 2005. roughed out with blue tiles on the wall saying 76st.The correct color for 76th Street would be purple. |
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Posted by American Pig on Fri Aug 19 05:06:34 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 12:03:35 2005. No, the yard before it was covered was below grade. |
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Posted by American Pig on Fri Aug 19 05:06:57 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 11:17:09 2005. How else are they going to store/maintain trains for the A and C? |
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Posted by JOE @ NYCTMG - NYCMTS on Fri Aug 19 05:08:17 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 18 11:40:50 2005. Sorry, my friend...This is a disgracefully poor photoshop created photo....period. Some Prima Facie evidence --to wit: (a) look at the uneveness of the thickness of the box loop on the numeral " 6 " (b) look at the thinner profile of the letter " T " compared to the thicker letter " S " in ST (c) I would presume there would be the usual period mark " . " after the letter "T" in street, missing here (d) Look at the thick to thin transition (starting at left lower corner side of signbox) lighter blue border line tile under the "76 ST" herald -- with the lower border line also being slightly thiner than the top border line --- poor computer artwork !! (e) Even more glaringly sloppy artwork is the poor lineup of the white wall tiles at the right side of the sign itself ... mostly in that suspiciously "shaded" area...note the mortar lines....they angle slightly upward...starting at the top right corner of the "signbox" with the top white tiles getting slightly narrower as they reach the upper, top-most, decorative wall band dark blue borderline tiles (f) at the lower right corner of the signbox, note that the 6th row of white wall tiles angles upward and the mortar line between the 6th & 7th row of white tiles show that the 7th row of tiles tend to widen up as they continue to the far right...and the 8th and all lower white wall tile rows are normal and even size, and lined up in a true straight line with, and to, their mates going to the left side of the photo. Note the darker shading of the oddly shaped and angled white tiles section has its darker grey shading border anging downward across the 7th tile row to the right of the signbox. The Photoshop-ee was unskilled or simply careless in his use of "perspective" (photo vanishing point distancing) tools. If this "was" a "real" photo, the tile mason setting those tiles should have been fired, or in some other countries, heh, maybe shot ! As one who has been a professional photog for over 40 years in both commercial, structural, press, and portraiture (and later in miniature rail model photo fields) as one of my many professional employment "hats" I wore, this "faux photo" is an amateurish, hasty composition and "I" would be embarrased to pass it off if it was created by my own hand, as "authentic" Sorry, no disrespect to the photo poster, but my professional photography training, and degreed criminology training, and decades in both fields, assures me, per (a) thru (f) above, that this image is bogus. I've seen better CGI work in "Forrest Gump" and some 1950's era Sci Fi movies. But a joke is a joke...fess up ! I think my compatriot, Unca Kevin (SELKIRK, MOOoo...) and some others here will agree with me. Unca Selkirk knows "who" I am ! Even this unusual photo below that I took is totally REAL (authentic, not a fake composition) in the real world ! When, where and how it was taken, and shot "live", is another --but quite authentic, "story" !  IRT Manhattan Elevated Div. MUDC EL wood car under the EL on streetcar tracks. Regards, respectfully, Joe |
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Posted by 7 to Main St on Fri Aug 19 05:35:08 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by JOE @ NYCTMG - NYCMTS on Fri Aug 19 05:08:17 2005. "This is a disgracefully poor photoshop created photo....period."I believe the idea was to make it look fake, and still have a good laugh. You took a joke WAY too seriously. May I interest you in some coffee? Its not the best, but it'll wake you up. Btw, that photo of yours is obviously of your layout. Since when did anything on the street run on a cork like substance? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Aug 19 07:09:53 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Douce Man on Fri Aug 19 01:09:44 2005. 1. Because he wanted to2. None |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Aug 19 07:10:24 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Douce Man on Fri Aug 19 01:12:54 2005. About as serious as your posts. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Aug 19 07:15:50 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Douce Man on Fri Aug 19 01:31:35 2005. Instead of merely thinking, why don't you look up the track maps on NYCSubway.org and tell us conclusively where it is? |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Teddmann on Fri Aug 19 07:39:17 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Aug 18 16:38:13 2005. LION thinks you need to go back to thinking schoolMy point was...if tunnel ends at bedrock, why build a wall? I would suspect the tunnel goes further past the wall. I'm not saying that the wall proves anything exists behind it, or how much further it goes...but someone took the time and $$$ to build it...just to cover up another natural rock wall? To keep in the dirt that was back-filled?...that makes more sense. |
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Posted by Teddmann on Fri Aug 19 07:44:49 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Aug 19 00:45:50 2005. 2) It was all filled in....and a wall was built to keep it that way... |
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Posted by tunnel rat on Fri Aug 19 07:49:10 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Teddmann on Fri Aug 19 07:44:49 2005. was not,read my post of8/18 1704 hours. |
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Posted by Teddmann on Fri Aug 19 07:57:44 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by tunnel rat on Fri Aug 19 07:49:10 2005. was not,read my post of8/18 1704 hours.I tend to believe that...my post was that the wall had to have been built for a purpose...and not just because the tunnel itself ended. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Aug 19 08:30:54 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by 7 to Main St on Fri Aug 19 02:40:33 2005. It's even worth a rim shot. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Aug 19 08:53:10 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Douce Man on Fri Aug 19 01:09:44 2005. Because it was a joke!!! ALl his other stations are real. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Aug 19 08:56:27 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by JOE @ NYCTMG - NYCMTS on Fri Aug 19 05:08:17 2005. Sorry, my friend...This is a disgracefully poor photoshop created photo....period. Uhhhh, it was a joke, and never meant for anything more than a joke. If I wanted to fool people, I "think" I would have spent a little more time on it. Jeez. 
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Aug 19 08:59:06 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by 7 to Main St on Fri Aug 19 05:35:08 2005. You took a joke WAY too seriously. May I interest you in some coffee? Its not the best, but it'll wake you up.EXACTLY. I mean really. If you couldn't take a joke by the Shepherd altering, think the posting of the IRT tiles on my other post should have clued you in that it was a joke. Don't take everything so seriously! |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Aug 19 09:00:55 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by monorail on Thu Aug 18 17:29:27 2005. I wonder why they were using Redbirds to push the museum R-1/9s. Can't they run under their own power? |
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Re: Official IND photo of 76th Street Re: posting |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Aug 19 09:02:46 2005, in response to Re: Official IND photo of 76th Street Re: posting, posted by Douce Man on Fri Aug 19 00:57:55 2005. 1978 to be exact. Yes, this IS real: ***Disclaimer - this was meant as a joke, someone actually took my other joke of the Shepherd mosaic of 76th seriocusly. Lighten up people!! Life doesn't always have to be serious! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Aug 19 09:04:03 2005, in response to Re: Official IND photo of 76th Street Re: posting, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Aug 19 09:02:46 2005. I said the "6" was authentic subwaytile, unaltered.....I just "forgot to mention it was upside down.http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?7878 |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Aug 19 09:28:23 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Douce Man on Fri Aug 19 01:12:54 2005. Yes, of course it''s serious. The joke is ONE page, that isn't linked from any part of the real site. It was a joke, and never meant to be anything more than that. |
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Posted by Graham on Fri Aug 19 09:55:34 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Aug 19 09:28:23 2005. It is however a very good joke. But in a more serious vein, what was the planned route for the lines running east from Euclid avenue? |
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Posted by Teddmann on Fri Aug 19 09:58:59 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 18 21:29:20 2005. ...those tracks extend at least 600 feet beyond the interlocking...What can you see past Euclid as the trian makes the turn to Grant? Do you just see tracks go off into the darkenss? |
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Posted by Douce Man on Fri Aug 19 10:04:24 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street and other 'mysteries'., posted by vengence on Fri Aug 19 04:00:18 2005. At the north end/upper level of Broadway on the G was South 4th Street. |
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Re: Sewer Lines Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Aug 19 10:08:29 2005, in response to Re: Sewer Lines Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by American Pig on Fri Aug 19 04:50:25 2005.  No, the Conduit system was for Brooklyn. In Merrick, the street to the north of the LIRR tracks is "Brooklyn Avenue" and it was said that it is the route of an old water conduit. Merrick never got its water from that conduit, AFIK, but had its own pumps and water towers. We paid a bill to the "New York Water Company" but AFIK it was a local company with a grandiose name. Merrick was (and is) an unincorporated village and so could not do street, water or sewer projects on its own. 
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Re: Sewer Lines Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Douce Man on Fri Aug 19 10:10:13 2005, in response to Re: Sewer Lines Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by American Pig on Fri Aug 19 04:50:25 2005. I was never sure which way the water was supposed to flow. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Aug 19 10:10:25 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 18 21:29:20 2005. Not a very pleasant walk to/from. Been there, done that. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Aug 19 10:18:29 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Teddmann on Fri Aug 19 07:39:17 2005. My point was...if tunnel ends at bedrock, why build a wall?Thinking School 201. There is no bedrock in that part of Brooklyn. If you build a tunnel you must line it with something. Concrete is a good substance. Now the cement block on the Pitkin lead to 76th Street *is* interesting, and there may be something beyond *that*
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Posted by Douce Man on Fri Aug 19 10:25:41 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Aug 19 09:00:55 2005. Maybe the R1/9's have fragile motors and TA didn't want to take a chance on them blockng the road. |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Douce Man on Fri Aug 19 10:36:24 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Graham on Fri Aug 19 09:55:34 2005. Can someone seriously answer that? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Aug 19 10:36:57 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Aug 19 10:18:29 2005. So you're saying the 4-track main ends in a poured concrete wall but the yard lead ends in a cinder block wall? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Aug 19 10:39:50 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Douce Man on Fri Aug 19 10:36:24 2005. LOOK AT THE MAPS |
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Posted by Douce Man on Fri Aug 19 10:47:17 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Aug 19 10:39:50 2005. The maps don't say where the tunnels are going. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Aug 19 11:05:29 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Douce Man on Fri Aug 19 10:47:17 2005. The maps don't say where the tunnels are going.Not true at all. Did you even look? See HERE (large image file). |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Aug 19 11:17:55 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Aug 19 10:36:57 2005. So you're saying the 4-track main ends in a poured concrete wall but the yard lead ends in a cinder block wall? That *is* what others seem to have posted on this thread.
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