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Re: Unbuilt Stuff

Posted by renee gil on Thu Aug 9 16:07:07 2012, in response to Unbuilt Stuff, posted by renee gil on Wed Aug 1 18:48:52 2012.

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A few vids about South 4th. Street:





One of my favorite pics of South 4th Street:


The only turnout that I've seen on the G, outside of Queens Blvd Subway(when it USED to run there) is at Bedford-Nostrand - Two track stub to Broadway, then Stanhope St ...to the Myrtle Ave Subway [IND Second System].....

To be honest I never knew that there was a station upstairs, above the Broadway (G) station...but I've never seen any turnouts or bellmouths from the lower (GG) crosstown line tunnel to the UPPER SOUTH 4TH st tunnels...

BTW, how long has the northern half of the mezzanine at the Broadway station been sealed up for?



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Re: Unbuilt Stuff

Posted by renee gil on Thu Aug 9 16:08:09 2012, in response to Re: Unbuilt Stuff, posted by Edwards! on Thu Aug 9 16:05:42 2012.

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Ok, now I know thanks.

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Re: Unbuilt Stuff

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Aug 9 16:12:00 2012, in response to Re: Unbuilt Stuff, posted by renee gil on Thu Aug 9 15:41:13 2012.

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Conduit Blvd route for south jamaica. The IRT had plenty of plans for Brooklyn that never came about..that the IND[BOARD OF TRANSPORTATION] basically assumed the rights to build once ALL subway construction was placed in their hands. This line..like all the others were blocked by that company and replaced with a plan from them in 1929

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Re: Unbuilt Stuff

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Aug 9 16:15:04 2012, in response to Re: Unbuilt Stuff, posted by renee gil on Thu Aug 9 15:50:21 2012.

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Ultra Cool..
Where can I see it?

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Re: Unbuilt Stuff

Posted by renee gil on Thu Aug 9 16:20:04 2012, in response to Re: Unbuilt Stuff, posted by Edwards! on Thu Aug 9 16:15:04 2012.

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To be honest I don't really know.

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Re: Unbuilt Stuff

Posted by randyo on Thu Aug 9 16:25:07 2012, in response to Re: Unbuilt Stuff, posted by Edwards! on Thu Aug 9 15:53:09 2012.

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What I don't understand is why a full station shell similar to either So 4 St or Utica upper wasn't built at that location since if the SAS were to be constructed to connect to those other tunnels, there would have been some disruption to existing train service. I have also heard that there is a similar provision at the 1 Av end of 2 Av station in the event that the city opted to route the subway up 1 Av instead of 2 Av.

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Re: Unbuilt Stuff

Posted by randyo on Thu Aug 9 16:29:42 2012, in response to Re: Unbuilt Stuff, posted by renee gil on Thu Aug 9 15:22:47 2012.

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I'm not sure if the express tracks were intended for any entirely new line, but S/O N/Lts station there is a provision in the el structure for the Livonia Av Line to continue east along N/Lts Av but I can't recall how far that line was supposed to go.

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Re: Unbuilt Stuff

Posted by renee gil on Thu Aug 9 16:33:04 2012, in response to Re: Unbuilt Stuff, posted by randyo on Thu Aug 9 16:29:42 2012.

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"but S/O N/Lts station there is a provision in the el structure for the Livonia Av Line to continue east along N/Lts Av"

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Re: Unbuilt Stuff

Posted by tunnelrat on Thu Aug 9 19:31:59 2012, in response to Re: Unbuilt Stuff, posted by renee gil on Thu Aug 9 16:33:04 2012.

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that turnout was supposed to go to 76st,somewhere in queens.no,really,not a joke.

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Re: Unbuilt Stuff

Posted by renee gil on Thu Aug 9 19:40:22 2012, in response to Re: Unbuilt Stuff, posted by tunnelrat on Thu Aug 9 19:31:59 2012.

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That has nothing to do with 76th Street.....

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Re: Unbuilt Stuff

Posted by renee gil on Thu Aug 9 19:40:35 2012, in response to Re: Unbuilt Stuff, posted by tunnelrat on Thu Aug 9 19:31:59 2012.

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That has nothing to do with 76th Street.....

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Re: Unbuilt Stuff

Posted by tunnelrat on Thu Aug 9 20:03:52 2012, in response to Re: Unbuilt Stuff, posted by renee gil on Fri Aug 3 05:40:03 2012.

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what reasons might they be?

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Re: Unbuilt Stuff

Posted by randyo on Fri Aug 10 14:40:40 2012, in response to Re: Unbuilt Stuff, posted by renee gil on Thu Aug 9 19:40:35 2012.

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I don't think he means 76 St/Pitkin Av, but 76 St is the approximate vicinity of the Bkln/Queens border. The last time I looked at a map of the area, I recall that there is a large housing complex right in the path of where the N/Lts extension was supposed to go.

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Re: Unbuilt Stuff

Posted by randyo on Fri Aug 10 14:41:17 2012, in response to Re: Unbuilt Stuff, posted by renee gil on Thu Aug 9 19:40:35 2012.

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I don't think he means 76 St/Pitkin Av, but 76 St is the approximate vicinity of the Bkln/Queens border. The last time I looked at a map of the area, I recall that there is a large housing complex right in the path of where the N/Lts extension was supposed to go.

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Re: Unbuilt Stuff

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Aug 10 15:03:29 2012, in response to Re: Unbuilt Stuff, posted by randyo on Fri Aug 10 14:40:40 2012.

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Yes, at Fountain Av (a lady that attended my grandmother's church used to live in that complex). I guess the line would've been built before the housing was built (maybe Newlots Ave would;ve been extended?).

As mnay times as I saw the Newlots Av station, I never noticed that turnout!

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Re: Unbuilt Stuff

Posted by randyo on Fri Aug 10 15:43:04 2012, in response to Re: Unbuilt Stuff, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Aug 10 15:03:29 2012.

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It's hard to see the turnout unless you look from the very south end of the platform or are an employee who has occasion to ride into the yard. I don't think it would be a matter of extending N/Lts Av since I believe it went through before the houses were built and it was probably cut off at that point.

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Re: Unbuilt Stuff

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Aug 10 15:45:47 2012, in response to Re: Unbuilt Stuff, posted by Edwards! on Thu Aug 9 15:45:00 2012.

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Do you mean in the enclosed spaces? Possibly, but the spaces are most likely closed off to the public now.

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Re: Unbuilt Stuff

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Aug 10 15:49:02 2012, in response to Re: Unbuilt Stuff, posted by randyo on Thu Aug 9 16:25:07 2012.

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IIRC, the ceiling is pretty lofty past the east/southern end of 2nd Ave, which would be about where 1st Ave is, but who knows?

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Re: Unbuilt Stuff

Posted by renee gil on Fri Aug 10 16:34:03 2012, in response to Re: Unbuilt Stuff, posted by randyo on Fri Aug 10 14:40:40 2012.

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You're right. Forgot all about that!

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Re: Unbuilt Stuff

Posted by renee gil on Fri Aug 10 18:28:41 2012, in response to Re: Unbuilt Stuff, posted by renee gil on Thu Aug 9 16:07:07 2012.

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BUMP.

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Re: Unbuilt Stuff

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Aug 10 19:04:09 2012, in response to Re: Unbuilt Stuff, posted by renee gil on Thu Aug 9 16:07:07 2012.

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The GG wasn't supposed to have a track connection to South 4th Street, only passageways, AFAIK.

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Re: Unbuilt Stuff

Posted by Union Tpke on Mon Apr 25 21:16:50 2016, in response to Re: Unbuilt Stuff, posted by tunnelrat on Sat Aug 4 20:45:54 2012.

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Tunnelrat, I haven't found anything on it yet. I believe that it is there. Do you remember anything else that can help me find the article? Thanks.

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Re: Unbuilt Stuff

Posted by Renee gil on Mon Apr 25 21:29:10 2016, in response to Re: Unbuilt Stuff, posted by tunnelrat on Sat Aug 4 20:45:54 2012.

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I really don't believe that.

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