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Posted by BusMgr on Wed Dec 21 19:31:02 2011, in response to Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by R30A on Wed Dec 21 16:48:22 2011. That highlights the very issue. At the airport, refusal to consent to TSA inspection results in the TSA denying access to the sterile area and to aircraft based on duly-adopted federal regulations, a denial that may be enforced by law enforcement personnel. On the other hand, what are the consequences to refusing consent to TSA inspection at a railroad station? There appear to be no duly-adopted regulations empowering TSA to deny access to the escalator, platform, and/or train. If there were a denial, would it be TSA making the denial, or would it be Amtrak making the denial at the request of TSA? I think it would be the latter. . . . |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Dec 21 19:40:56 2011, in response to Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 21 17:28:09 2011. Read the article linked in the post, and you'll see exactly what I mean. The TSA website suggests that if you refuse screening, they just won't let you fly. It makes no mention of traveler liability to arrest or civil fines, yet in the article are warnings that these things most certainly can happen to those who enter screening lines or areas, but then refuse to be screened and/or searched. |
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Posted by BusMgr on Wed Dec 21 19:44:15 2011, in response to Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 21 12:33:55 2011. In the section of Amtrak's published Terms of Transportation related to the carriage of passengers, it states: "Amtrak may refuse to carry passengers . . . [w]ho refuse to consent to Amtrak security inspections of persons and/or baggage onboard Amtrak trains and/or at designated areas, such as train platforms and passenger boarding or waiting areas."Note that the condition imposed is consent to Amtrak security inspections, not TSA security inspections. It would appear that only if TSA were acting as Amtrak's agent would refusal to consent to a TSA inspection trigger the Terms of Transportation as a basis for denial. And in such case, it would be Amtrak that would be denying transportation pursuant to its Terms of Transportation; TSA would not be denying transportation based on their authority. |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Dec 21 19:53:56 2011, in response to Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by BusMgr on Wed Dec 21 19:44:15 2011. Exactly. That is my point. |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Wed Dec 21 22:28:13 2011, in response to Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Dec 21 15:29:16 2011. This whole thing is beginning to look a lot like the Nazi era in Berlinand it's bound to spread ............. just smile. Karl |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Dec 21 22:38:27 2011, in response to Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 21 18:51:36 2011. In practice you can guarantee such as Amtrak has no way of controlling all points of access to any one track that they use. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 21 23:19:22 2011, in response to Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by R30A on Wed Dec 21 22:38:27 2011. No, I was thinking that a policeman could accompany the person until he is some distance away from the station and that Amtrak's system not allow him to exchange his ticket for a different train that day and also flag him for extra scrutiny in the future. Police could also be brought in to cover all stairways and escalators and elevators to that platform. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 21 23:20:02 2011, in response to Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Wed Dec 21 22:28:13 2011. No it's not. |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Thu Dec 22 00:12:55 2011, in response to Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 21 23:20:02 2011. This is peace time we are NOT AT WAR but we are being subjected to all the outward appearance of being invaded, and the silly ass people don't stand up to this kind of badgering then we all might as well kiss our asses goodbye. this is only the beginning. Karl |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Dec 22 03:53:03 2011, in response to Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 21 23:19:22 2011. Does either Amtrak, NJT, or MTA either individually or in combination have enough police officers to do that? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Dec 22 04:12:24 2011, in response to Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by BusMgr on Wed Dec 21 16:45:15 2011. I did admit that the size of the Israel Railways network probably looks minuscule next to some other places, such as New York City, and I appreciate your extra information. Here are some points I'd add about how such a process could be refined.1. People would arrive a few minutes earlier if they knew there would be security procedures to go through to reach the train. Is it inconvenient? Perhaps, but when I take buses out of the Central Bus Station in Jerusalem, I know that I need to allow 10 minutes or so to pass through security and get to the platform when determining when to leave home. 2. While there would be an adjustment period, once that passed, if most people adapt to the procedures, they should move fairly smoothly. 3. Training is key. If they actually had competent security personnel in the US and trained them properly, this system could work well, especially if the traveling public gets the hang of it too. In Israel, wallets and keys and such are not x-rayed. Only the largest parcels go through the x-ray, such as suitcases and backpacks. I once had lunch with the director of NARP, who was convinced prior to our meal that no effective security could be implemented on a rail network, and after hearing about what they do in Israel, said he thought otherwise. I'm not saying that this sort of thing should be done or is necessary, but unlike others here, I don't believe it is impossible. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Dec 22 04:17:24 2011, in response to Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Thu Dec 22 00:12:55 2011. iawtp |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Dec 22 04:21:16 2011, in response to Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by R30A on Wed Dec 21 22:38:27 2011. If the TSA and Amtrak PD thought about it, I'm sure they could station someone at each stairway. There is nothing that PREVENTS them from doing so in theory. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Dec 22 06:35:20 2011, in response to Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Thu Dec 22 00:12:55 2011. Nope, not at all. You have it all wrong. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Dec 22 06:44:21 2011, in response to Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by randyo on Thu Dec 22 03:53:03 2011. Yes. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Dec 22 09:16:26 2011, in response to Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Dec 22 04:12:24 2011. Where is the space to hold the queues at Penn Station? You can't put holding pens into the middle of 7th and 8th Avenues. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Dec 22 09:25:18 2011, in response to Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by AlM on Thu Dec 22 09:16:26 2011. Where is the space to hold the queues at Penn Station? Whoa. I think we just finally found a use for Farley! |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Thu Dec 22 12:14:00 2011, in response to Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Dec 22 06:35:20 2011. Keep thinking that way Bobbie ..... Karl |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Dec 22 12:25:15 2011, in response to Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Thu Dec 22 12:14:00 2011. I will, because it's the truth. What is going on here is nothing like being invaded. It may be security theater, but it's not like what you described. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 22 12:41:43 2011, in response to Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Wed Dec 21 22:28:13 2011. You obviously know jack shit about "Nazi-era Berlin." |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Dec 22 16:38:10 2011, in response to Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by AlM on Thu Dec 22 09:16:26 2011. Where there is a will, there is a way. Besides, the lines in Jerusalem extend out on to the sidewalk in front of the station and walking through at busy times is difficult, but everyone manages. (They also have security staff patrolling the entrance to the holding pen so if someone wanted to detonate themselves while waiting for the security check, they wouldn't be able to.) |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Thu Dec 22 18:00:34 2011, in response to Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Dec 22 12:25:15 2011. This is just the beginning, the people are being trained to expect this treatment, eventually this police state will spread and when people finally wake up it'll be too late like a frog in cold water and slowly bring it to boil to death, read your history of Europe prior to the war, it's all there. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Dec 22 18:12:26 2011, in response to Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Thu Dec 22 18:00:34 2011. iawtp |
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Posted by TheHat on Thu Dec 22 19:44:07 2011, in response to Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Thu Dec 22 18:00:34 2011. Dead right, we are in a police atate and the ACLU and others haven't mentioned the term slippery slope since before 2008, kinda odd considering the passage of the NDAA by congress earlier this month. Just an observation. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Dec 23 10:48:51 2011, in response to Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Thu Dec 22 18:00:34 2011. LION told you that things would get worse under the Democrats, and the Socialist Dictator Obama.ROAR |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Fri Dec 23 10:53:25 2011, in response to I TOLD YOU SO: Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Dec 23 10:48:51 2011. LION I have lost all respect for you. |
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Posted by TheHat on Fri Dec 23 11:40:57 2011, in response to I TOLD YOU SO: Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Dec 23 10:48:51 2011. Lion, it's all apart of the fake left/right paradigm. I am an conservative and still can see this was started by the Bush administration with Cheney pulling the strings and is in fact continued with the Obama with Soros pulling the strings. IMO we have to stop with the two seperate sides and point the finger at the banks and corporate empires that are pushing for this. However this part is for all, The left is being alarmingly quiet. The NDAA is 10x worse than the patriot act could be. This act has defined the "homeland" as a battlefield on the war on terror and US forces can be used against american citizens upto and INCULDING indefinate detention of US citizens by the military. SO why don't we send a message that we won't be enslaved instead of arguing amogst are selves. BTW Lion you were right it has gotten worse since the Obama administration came into power, "we are the ones we've been waiting for" is starting to take effect. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Dec 23 12:41:28 2011, in response to Re: I TOLD YOU SO: Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by TheHat on Fri Dec 23 11:40:57 2011. Banks and Corporations have nothing to do with anything.They are not even real people! ROAR |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 23 12:46:05 2011, in response to I TOLD YOU SO: Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Dec 23 10:48:51 2011. WE DIDN'T LISTEN! |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Dec 23 13:19:49 2011, in response to Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by TheHat on Thu Dec 22 19:44:07 2011. The problem is, go the other way and you'd have many family members of 9/11 victims, some of whom that have never been able to move past that day totally up in arms.A lot of this has been done every year when there has ever since 9/11 been a heightened awareness, even if to some it looks more like a "dog and pony" show to appease those who have become paranoid about travel because of the few incidents that have actually happened. |
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Posted by TheHat on Fri Dec 23 14:12:43 2011, in response to Re: I TOLD YOU SO: Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Dec 23 12:41:28 2011. The ones who run them want the power over people and take the power of the government away from the citizenry, But this is begining become an OT discussion. |
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Posted by TheHat on Fri Dec 23 14:27:37 2011, in response to Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Dec 23 13:19:49 2011. I'd say don't go in any way at all. If the paranoia about travel is worse now than, then. That means the patriot act served no purspose and we don't need the crack smoking, child molesing TSA. SO the NDAA is supposed to solve that, I guess. And for 9/11 victims, first responders were consider a security risk at the 10 yr. anniversary and not invited to to said event. Let alone any rescue workers who have health conditions are being shrugged off as all apart of the way things are. So the victims families aren't the motivation either. So what is? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 23 15:03:56 2011, in response to I TOLD YOU SO: Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Dec 23 10:48:51 2011. And if he didn't, there'd be even more (Daily) Wail that we weren't doing anything at all. Now for your penance, go look up "NDAA indefinite detention" for US citizens and go back one suitcase and go wait for the train. It's the GOP thing to do. :) |
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Posted by TheHat on Fri Dec 23 15:31:59 2011, in response to Re: I TOLD YOU SO: Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 23 15:03:56 2011. The part of the video where it's supposed be a FEMA camp, was a railroad facility for rebuilding locomotives and such, under renovation to remove asbestos and was never a FEMA camp. |
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Posted by TheHat on Fri Dec 23 15:38:38 2011, in response to Re: I TOLD YOU SO: Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by TheHat on Fri Dec 23 15:31:59 2011. Oh and not to mention the "cattle car" or in the real world enclosed auto carriers. And on-base military housing which has nothing to do FEMA. Some people go too far in their fear of the government. There is a related video showing the loading of such FEMA trains, LOL. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 23 15:43:06 2011, in response to Re: I TOLD YOU SO: Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by TheHat on Fri Dec 23 15:31:59 2011. Heh. I know ... I know ... most comical right wing nonsense yet. I just HAD to rub the Lion's nose in it ... bad kitty ... BAD kitty! :) |
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Posted by TheHat on Fri Dec 23 15:45:52 2011, in response to Re: I TOLD YOU SO: Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 23 15:43:06 2011. It's not right wing as much as it's mental disease or defect on the part of the video maker. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 23 15:46:19 2011, in response to Re: I TOLD YOU SO: Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by TheHat on Fri Dec 23 15:38:38 2011. Relax ... I don't do right wing, but sadly there's scads of morons who actually believe that stuff. Might as well feed them ... here kitty kitty. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 23 15:49:15 2011, in response to Re: I TOLD YOU SO: Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by TheHat on Fri Dec 23 15:45:52 2011. The "NWO" types are the Ologs of the right. One of the reasons why I never bother with radio or certain "news" channels. They were really feeling their oats back in the Clinton days, they're back with a vengeance now. :( |
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Posted by TheHat on Fri Dec 23 15:52:40 2011, in response to Re: I TOLD YOU SO: Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 23 15:46:19 2011. I'm a conservative myself, but some of these new world order people are out there like Pluto, I mean spaced out to the max. I couldn't stop laughing at the FEMA train in the video. And the supposed camp was an old video I saw years ago. When I did some research I found it was and place where they overhaul trains and paint them, but found asbestos and had to conduct abatement of the site. I am cinsideing going to OT chat if it's safe? LOL. |
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Posted by TheHat on Fri Dec 23 15:57:31 2011, in response to Re: I TOLD YOU SO: Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 23 15:49:15 2011. I just have to ask do you think the NDAA is too far? I think it is, I just don't like the increasing police state we have been livin' in since 9/11, the start of this by Bush and continued with by Obama and whom ever is next in office will continue. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 23 15:59:46 2011, in response to Re: I TOLD YOU SO: Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by TheHat on Fri Dec 23 15:52:40 2011. Just toss on proper safety glasses and a spit deflector and it's OK. Often more civilized than here in "A division" but there are a few who raise the butthurt. As long as you don't take the loogies personally, it's OK.As to the "far out" types ... there's too many like that out there. Some of them are even here. I had to have a little fun torturing Lion since we've known each other for a while and the FEMA train angle was the only thinly-veiled "on-topic" I could grasp by the husk. :) |
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Posted by TheHat on Fri Dec 23 16:07:44 2011, in response to Re: I TOLD YOU SO: Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 23 15:59:46 2011. HAHAHAHA! Cool the FEMA train is in fact on topic. I will get the proper safety gear and take the plunge. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 23 16:09:31 2011, in response to Re: I TOLD YOU SO: Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by TheHat on Fri Dec 23 15:57:31 2011. I disagree with the need to have the military act as a police force, but it was demanded by the party out of power as an act of blackmail. I don't see what the right is flailing about coming down, but I can see this not passing Constitutional muster. I'd rather not go into it on this side of the fence here, but the provisions of the new act are quite dangerous should anyone be declared an "enemy of the state" and I could see it being stretched completely out of line to define railfans with cameras as full-out terrorists in wrong hands. That's the only reason why I'm saying this over here.I understand Obama added a "signing statement" when he signed it into law earlier, but I haven't had a chance to read about it as yet. He seemed to think some of the provisions were too strong and unnecessary, that's about all I've read so far. But the new provisions are every bit as dangerous to the right as they are to the left and it seems that nobody cared as it was all coming down. Now it's law. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 23 16:11:21 2011, in response to Re: I TOLD YOU SO: Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by TheHat on Fri Dec 23 16:07:44 2011. Ammo is on sale in the lobby if you're so inclined. Moo! :) |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Fri Dec 23 16:18:41 2011, in response to Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by TheHat on Fri Dec 23 14:27:37 2011. How about a secret high power within the Government that's controlling all this high security crap that even our elected President can't touch.this is the way it is and will be unless actions are taken through the people to get rid of this altogether .... but it will NEVER happen even now this country is in for rough times ahead. |
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Posted by TheHat on Fri Dec 23 16:23:44 2011, in response to Re: I TOLD YOU SO: Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 23 16:09:31 2011. Yep, I can see some of us getting harassed by it like the patriot act and anti-terrorism nonsense. I belive the blackmail part was funding of tax cut extensions and other fundings issues that would be killed if they didn't vote for the NDAA, IIRC, but could be wrong. |
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Posted by TheHat on Fri Dec 23 16:24:11 2011, in response to Re: I TOLD YOU SO: Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 23 16:11:21 2011. HAHAHAHAHA! |
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Posted by TheHat on Fri Dec 23 16:26:09 2011, in response to Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Fri Dec 23 16:18:41 2011. How? because IDK how. They did wreck the OWS movement and probably wreck any other movement, IMO. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 23 16:30:02 2011, in response to Re: I TOLD YOU SO: Re: TSA Screening at Penn Station Today, posted by TheHat on Fri Dec 23 16:23:44 2011. The thing that bothers me about it is that we already have more than enough laws and regulations, and terrorism cases have been handled just fine by the courts. These flag-wavers don't realize that the military justice system is likely to be MORE lenient on the bad guys, not less. But then again, symbolism over substance always wins. :( |
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