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Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.} |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 29 13:11:04 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by brightonr68 on Fri Jul 29 12:56:02 2011. LOL!!!! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 29 13:11:52 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 13:08:58 2011. Nope. But even if true (which it's not), that's much better than being racist like you. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Jul 29 13:12:40 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 29 12:55:41 2011. Yes, five years ago. There's a major component maintenance schedule that works out to replacing or remanufacturing major mechanical components of the car, along with other work and inspection every few years, that reduces failure potential so that the cars won't need to have the kind of teardown and full rebuild they required in the past. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 13:15:25 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 29 13:10:04 2011. Good job.. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 13:16:54 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 29 12:57:13 2011. From what Train Dude stated..the TA looked for reasons to scrap them. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 29 13:17:05 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 13:15:25 2011. And? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 13:21:14 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Jul 29 13:12:40 2011. Right..but since the cars will be around for awhile anyway..why NOT do a rebuild like they planned with the R16's..and what PATCO plans to do with its cars?Keep the shells..but build a new interior..new face..new everything? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 13:22:55 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 29 13:17:05 2011. And what? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 29 13:23:53 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 13:21:14 2011. Because the cars will only be around for 6 more years. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 29 13:24:46 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 13:22:55 2011. Seriously? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 29 13:25:56 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 13:16:54 2011. In fact, the frame issue that doomed the fleet was confined to the first 60 cars produced. In my opinion, the retirement of the R-44s was a "political" decision. After we eliminated their reasons to scrap the cars, they needed to find excuses. Hence, the frames...... |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 13:27:38 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 29 13:24:46 2011. Seriously? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 13:28:20 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 29 13:25:56 2011. meaning the reason they were scrapped was bullshit. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 29 13:31:28 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 29 13:25:56 2011. I recall during our "summit lunch" you said the decision to scrap the remaining R44s was done over the objections of the mechanical people who examined the fleet, no?I would have thought NYCT management would have learned from its own history (early problems with the R-44s forcing them to run prewar cars--some of which had already been sold to a scrap dealer, IIRC--longer than anticipated), similar to what's happening with the R32s today... |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 29 13:32:54 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 13:28:20 2011. Of the 272 cars that were scrapped - I believe that 212 could have remained viable and reliable for several more years had the funding been approved for the enhancement program for the last 100 R-44 cars. That same program, that we performed on 172 R-44s, previously, boosted reliability to historic highs. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 29 13:33:50 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 13:27:38 2011. Ok, I'll take that into consideration if I ever again decide to consider to seriously and politely answer one of your questions. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jul 29 13:35:12 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 13:27:38 2011. Maybe he was looking for a thank you... |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jul 29 13:36:31 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 12:55:12 2011. That sounds like a superb short time fix.As long as we're fantasizing.... They might present some passenger training issues. I can hear all the WTF's now, as eleven, or twelve car sets squeezed in to the stations. Perhaps it would be best to confine them to BMT/East, where nine car sets would be the max allowable, and reuse the sixty foot R143, R160, and 160B's on the rest of the "B" division. How much of a shortfall of failing R42, R32's and R44 we talkin' about? How many PA4-3-2 are becoming available? It would have been nice if those R110Bs were Rehabbed and made compatible with the R143s, and R160s. Nine cars are nine cars. I'd like to see those Broad Street cars from Philly sporting around NYC. There was once a time WASHINGTON D.C. TRANSIT bailed out the NYC Surface Lines with surplus Fish Bowls. Anybody from Buschat remember and care to comment? avid |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 13:38:02 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 29 13:11:52 2011. WOW..Suffering from lack of oxygen to the brain brings out the worst in you. Trolling this board,creating stupid self serving subthreads which serve no real purpose other than your petty spite IS CHILDISH...and TYPICAL as far as You're concerned. Play your stupid games..whatever. Just remember,If you and the wife can dish it..you better be able to take it to. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jul 29 13:40:42 2011, in response to Re: R179 cars won't be delivered until 2017., posted by THE Fresh Pond on Thu Jul 28 23:52:41 2011. Why? Having operated every piece of rolling stock on the NYCTS except for the NTTs, I can say that the R-32s were the best piece of equipment the TA ever had and that was before GOH! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 29 13:41:19 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 29 13:32:54 2011. 172 sounds like more than enough to cover the C line. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 29 13:43:24 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 13:21:14 2011. The MTA wants all NTT's, for reasons of simplicity and efficiency. PATCO is a tiny system with a tiny fleet and a tiny budget.What the R32's need is the 6 year SMS work they probably haven't gotten recently. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 13:48:57 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 29 13:31:28 2011. MTA has a nasty habit of being its own worst enemy..When the TA scrapped the R10/16/27/30,and replaced them with the R68's..that left us with MAJOR CAR SHORTAGE.. It happened during the 60 with the BMT/IND..after they scrapped the D UNITS.. the Queens division R units were breaking down in vast numbers..and they didnt purchase enough R38 to cover. Just like today..they didnt purchase enough R160's..thats the real reason the two subway lines were eliminated. |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Fri Jul 29 13:49:15 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Jul 29 12:08:49 2011. structurally yes, mechanically no. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 13:51:10 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 29 13:33:50 2011. You should be polite regardless..if you expect to be taken seriously.And you should respect that fact that I gave You..props FOR YOUR efforts. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 29 13:51:11 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 29 13:41:19 2011. 172 cars is a very good number. That would be 144 for 18 trains plus a 20% spare factor - give or take a fraction. The problem was that:1) Some of the 172 enhanced cars were part of the 60 with frame issues. 2) The parts used to enhance the E-Cam propulsion on the R-44s were needed for the R-68 SMS for budgetary reasons. 3) The Axles & bull gears on the R-44 were needed for the R-68s due to premature erosion of those bull gears. SO to sum it up - some had to die so others could live. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 13:51:31 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Railman718 on Fri Jul 29 13:35:12 2011. I suppose.. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Fri Jul 29 13:51:41 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jul 29 08:01:22 2011. Half of 978.=w= |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Fri Jul 29 13:52:01 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 29 12:24:35 2011. I would also paint the interiors white. If it's one thing I don't like about the older cars, it's the beige interiors. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 13:53:41 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 29 13:51:11 2011. so why didnt they just place the 68's over at 207 and Pitkin? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 29 13:57:31 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 13:53:41 2011. And what would run on the Delta? The issue was both budgetary and chronology, using rebuilt parts from the R-44 to SMS the R-68 saved several million dollars and also allowed the R-68 SMS to proceed when delays in getting bull gears would have stopped the truck portion of the SMS program. |
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Posted by Terrapin station on Fri Jul 29 13:57:47 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 29 13:43:24 2011. Now you are sort of learning. You're welcome |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 29 13:58:22 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 13:38:02 2011. Why are you feeding him? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 14:00:47 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 29 13:58:22 2011. yeah..I know..Never feed the trolls..yadda.. It was just one of those moments I needed to warn him. |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Fri Jul 29 14:01:10 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 13:48:57 2011. Wasn't it the R30s that caused a shortage in the B Division during the 90s? I've heard stories about the R30s going to SBK for scrap in wet paint. I'm not too sure, but I think the R30s were supposed to stick around until the R143 delivery in 2001. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 14:01:14 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 29 13:57:31 2011. the 46's..? |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jul 29 14:08:28 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by LRG5784 on Fri Jul 29 13:52:01 2011. If you ever saw a new R-32 you might notice that their interiors along with the interiors of the R-38s through 42s were painted a rather attractive 2 tone blue not too dissimilar from the interiors on the NTTs even down to the seat colors. |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Fri Jul 29 14:12:52 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Fri Jul 29 13:51:41 2011. To date, it's these R-1/9's that are left...R-1: 100*, 103*, 175 (car body), 381*. R-4: 401*, 484*, 800, 825. R-6: 923*, 925*, 978 (3/4's car body), 983 (car body), 1000*, 1144, 1300*. R-7: 1440 R-7A: 1575* R-9: 1689, 1801 (static display), 1802*. Exactly 20 of them known in existence, in some form, out of 1703 cars originally built. The asterisk (*) means those cars are on MTA/NYCT property. -William A. Padron ["Independent Subway System"] |
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Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.} |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jul 29 14:32:26 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by William A. Padron on Fri Jul 29 14:12:52 2011. Is 978 the one in Golden's Deli in Staten Island? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jul 29 14:34:17 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 13:38:02 2011. That's the problem he can't take it hence the " they are picking on me" posts.. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jul 29 14:36:06 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 14:00:47 2011. Well he's already called you a racist I'm sure the anti-semite label is next..m |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 29 14:45:12 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 14:01:14 2011. There are not enough R-46s at the present time. |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Fri Jul 29 14:56:11 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by randyo on Fri Jul 29 14:08:28 2011. Yeah I've seen older photos with the blue interior. Better than the beige. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 15:08:35 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Railman718 on Fri Jul 29 14:36:06 2011. Whatever.He's full of shit..so how could that bother me? |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jul 29 15:09:17 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 13:51:10 2011. Polite goes with Maturity. People with time on their hands bust ba**s. If I still worked 50 hours a week I'd hardly see any of this.Now I'm retired and temporarily stuck at home recovering from kidney surgery, so I spend a lot of time on here. Some people are right some of the time, it's wrong to lash out against anyone in particular at certain times. And there is nice way to correct them, too. Not derogatory remarks. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 29 15:13:35 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jul 29 07:57:58 2011. Rumor was that one might finish the other. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 29 15:14:18 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Jul 29 12:09:35 2011. Indeed ... :) |
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PA4 Cars for "J" and "Z" are 95 enough? |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jul 29 15:17:05 2011, in response to Used car Dealer, was Re: R32 car won't be retiredl {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jul 29 13:36:31 2011. The PATH received 95 PA 4s back in 1987-88. Is that enough, or would the PA3s be needed too?Thet are Stainless Steel, three doors per side and are cabe cars. This info was garnered from a PATH websit and may be outdated PATH has a fleet of 333 cars (reduced from 348 cars) that are in active revenue service. There are five models: PA1, PA2, PA3, PA4 and PA5. PATH cars are 51 ft (15.5 m) long, with a width of approximately 9'-2¾" (2.8 m). They can achieve a maximum speed of 70 mph (112 km/h). Each car seats 35 passengers, on seats that line the sides of the cars, with a larger number of standees in each car. The PA1 cars were built by St. Louis Car in 1965. PA2 cars were built in 1966–67, also by St. Louis. Hawker Siddeley built the PA3 cars in 1972. The PA4s were built by Kawasaki Heavy Industries in 1986–88. The PA5s are currently being built by Kawasaki Heavy Industries in 2008–10. PA1, PA2, and PA3 cars have painted aluminum bodies, and have two doors on each side. Back-lit panels above the doors display the destination of that particular train: HOB for Hoboken, JSQ for Journal Square, NWK for Newark, 33 for 33rd Street, and WTC for World Trade Center. (Some of the older PA3 signs contain such overzealous punctuation as J.S.Q., N.W.K. and 33RD. ST.). The MBTA's Blue and Orange Line cars, built in 1978–79 and 1980–81 respectively are based on the PA3. PA4 cars have stainless steel bodies, and have three doors on each side. Back-lit displays above the windows (between the doors) display the destination of that particular train. Would only 95 cars and the modifications necessary for the Eastern Division be worth the six year service time until the R179s come ashore? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 15:18:20 2011, in response to Re: Remaining R32 car fleet won't be retired til 2017 {screenshot, description from MTA C.P.}, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jul 29 15:09:17 2011. true.My take on this is we dont need his type of "correction".. Most of us are old enough to be his father or grandfather..ALL GROWN MEN. I dont NEED him in any way.. to answer questions.. to hijack potentially important threads.. to be a total jackass to everyone here because he has issues to work out. He wants to be a big man? Then he better be prepared to take as well as give. |
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Re: PA4 Cars for ''J'' and ''Z'' are 95 enough? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 15:19:32 2011, in response to PA4 Cars for "J" and "Z" are 95 enough?, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jul 29 15:17:05 2011. could be... |
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