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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Nilet on Sat Jan 1 16:10:24 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by BigBusDriver on Wed Dec 29 11:01:08 2010.

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Proff.

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Nilet on Sat Jan 1 16:12:31 2011, in response to War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 27 17:57:43 2010.

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...and, of course, you will be suing SEPTA and the city of Philadelphia for your aggravation?

If you have to come back to Philadelphia to answer the summons, you might as well file while you're at it. And remember, while you might get a good two-for-one deal on a lawyer to represent you for the criminal and civil matters, you're always entitled to a free lawyer if you're charged with a crime!

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jan 1 16:14:17 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Nilet on Sat Jan 1 16:10:24 2011.

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Nilet on Sat Jan 1 16:14:29 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Dec 28 23:18:44 2010.

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Except for the part about about Nilet not being guilty. While it seems highly unlikely he was guilty, I'm not going to state that with complete certainly.

Careful! I have lawyers now! Call me guilty, and I'll have them breathing down your neck for libel!

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by BMTLines on Sat Jan 1 16:15:15 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Dec 29 07:04:03 2010.

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If that is the case then the cop should cite the violation in question and not make an issue of photography!

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by RailBus63 on Sun Jan 2 19:13:19 2011, in response to War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 27 17:57:43 2010.

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Sorry to hear this happened, Fred. Have you considered contacting the ACLU?

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Sep 4 08:18:04 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by arnine on Tue Dec 28 17:54:49 2010.

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No, go ahead and elaborate, if you please.

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by The I Man on Sun Sep 4 20:17:57 2011, in response to War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 27 17:57:43 2010.

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With all the pics you take, I'm really surprised that this was the first time you were stopped and harassed. In 1986 I saw a teenager beat the crap out of an old lady on the BSS. A cop entered at City Hall and DID NOTHING. I finally intervened. 25 years later they are breaking balls for taking pictures of trains. Brainless.

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Sep 4 20:23:57 2011, in response to War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 27 17:57:43 2010.

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total insanity fred

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Sep 5 01:46:32 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by The I Man on Sun Sep 4 20:17:57 2011.

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Why do you say this was his first time??

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Sep 5 01:49:13 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 28 13:30:01 2010.

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and what is worse is how the cop lied on the summonse stating how Fred used profanity when he didn't

How come you believe Fred G when he says he didn't curse but you don't believe others when they say they did not act inappropriately during police encounters?

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Sep 5 02:00:49 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Dec 27 19:31:04 2010.

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(Smh) who bumped this thread?

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Terrapin STATION on Mon Sep 5 02:26:38 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Sep 5 02:00:49 2011.

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It was relevant.

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Sep 5 03:02:32 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin STATION on Mon Sep 5 02:26:38 2011.

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Just wanted to note that I think downtown Philly and the area near Drexel are both pretty cool now.

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Sep 5 09:06:03 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by BMTLines on Mon Dec 27 18:11:28 2010.

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1. There must be more to the story
2. Must be something you did
3. The cop is always right - you should have apologized and moved on
4. The cop made a mistake and did not understand the law (all 6 "Ignorant of the law" - I DOUBT that very much though)
5. There is no war on photography
6. All of the above

7. It was a setup by Mitch



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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Sep 5 09:32:06 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Sep 5 09:06:03 2011.

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3. The cop is always right - you should have apologized and moved on

Your attitude is wrong. Cops do get things wrong, and they should be held accountable for their actions. It is like any other customer-facing job: you screw up in front of the customers and you should expect to get an earful from the boss; too many screw-ups and you're fired.

4. The cop made a mistake and did not understand the law

It's his job to understand the law. It's not his job to usurp the powers vested in Congress by the Constitution and start making laws up. Failure in this regard is gross incompetence and cause for dismissal.

5. There is no war on photography

Unfortunately, we have seen before evidence of senior cops misleading their subordinates as to what the law is on photography. This is misconduct in a public office, and they should be prosecuted for this. Until these bad cops end up either out of a job or in jail, they will not stop their war on photography and usurpation of congressional powers.

I know you are an ex-cop and have a natural wagon-circling instinct, but in order to restore the much-damaged dignity of your profession, you most of all should be calling for the uniformed criminals in police departments to be prosecuted for their crimes.

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Sep 5 09:37:44 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Sep 5 09:32:06 2011.

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I don't think you read the post I responded to and the history between Fred and Mitch. Either that or you don't have a sense of humor. (a common trait among many railfans)

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Sep 5 09:38:12 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Sep 5 09:32:06 2011.

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I just don't believe it. Did you even read what Jeff was responding to?

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Sep 5 09:39:29 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Sep 5 09:37:44 2011.

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Posted almost identical comment 28 seconds later - DUH

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by bigbusdriver on Mon Sep 5 10:00:57 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Sep 5 01:49:13 2011.

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Man, to did THAT necropost up, you must not have used a shovel, you must have used A BACKHOE!!


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LOL@BELLVUE BOUND BREE

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by bigbusdriver on Mon Sep 5 10:04:57 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Sep 4 08:18:04 2011.

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OH! I get it now! You are FINALLY responding to ALL those posts you have been meaning to!

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by bigbusdriver on Mon Sep 5 10:29:13 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin STATION on Mon Sep 5 02:26:38 2011.

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It was relevant.

Well then, what about this part of the same thread?

Oh it's the chat police/nazi who knows all

And YOUR RESONSE, which is more important for the board to see than you trying to start a flame war with TMP!

Correct. Deal with it.

SubChat Nazi? And you AGREE with it? Seems a Nazi would be an Anti-semite!


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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by bigbusdriver on Mon Sep 5 10:31:50 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by bigbusdriver on Mon Sep 5 10:29:13 2011.

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It was relevant.

Well then, what about this part of the same thread?

http://www.subchat.com/read.asp?Id=1019206

"Oh it's the chat police/nazi who knows all"

And YOUR RESONSE, which is more important for the board to see than you trying to start a flame war with TMP!

http://www.subchat.com/read.asp?Id=1019213

Correct. Deal with it.

SubChat Nazi? And you AGREE with it? Seems a Nazi would be an Anti-semite!


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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Sep 5 11:06:44 2011, in response to War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 27 17:57:43 2010.

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Sometimes some folks in positions of authority make mistakes.
When they are made aware of the mistakes, they have options they can take.
1) admit the error, and correct themselves.

2) over react and compound the error, abusing the position they are entrusted with.
3) over react and compound the error, abuse their position, and try to white wash the mistake with a false charge.

If the original(plain clothes) person holds a position superior to the backup personal, he may try to coerce them to support his position of disturbing the peace.

This painfully resembles what is going on in the southwest, with our current Federal administration, and "Fast and Furious" scandal.

The abusers must be brought to task, and punished, and/or removed, and lose any, and all pension benefits!

avid

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Re: Here's A Similar SEPTA Harassment to Mine (was Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly)

Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Sep 5 12:31:18 2011, in response to Re: Here's A Similar SEPTA Harassment to Mine (was Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly), posted by Randyo on Fri Dec 31 02:53:35 2010.

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Not very likely to happen.
Does the term "BLUE WALL" ring any bells?

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Re: Here's A Similar SEPTA Harassment to Mine (was Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly)

Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Sep 5 12:35:20 2011, in response to Re: Here's A Similar SEPTA Harassment to Mine (was Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly), posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Dec 31 01:16:45 2010.

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Well said, but after six additional uniforms came to the "Crime scene" and a citation for a different offense was issued, it lumps them all in the same piss poor light!

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Sep 5 12:48:16 2011, in response to War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 27 17:57:43 2010.

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SEPTA HAS A WEBSITE.

SEPTA HAS A CUSTOMER SERVICE SITE FOR COMMENTS.

ANY ONE BESIDES MY SELF WANT TO SEND THEM A COMMENT OR QUESTION OR BOTH.

I WONDER WHAT THEIR TRAFFIC IS LIKE AT THAT SITE?

JUST ASKING

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Sep 5 12:53:53 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Avid Reader on Mon Sep 5 12:48:16 2011.

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SO I WENT TO SEPTA, AND FOUND THEIR POLICY ON PHOTOGRAPHY


http://www.septa.org/policy/film.html

maybe they should be reminded of their policy?

avid

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by BigBusDriver on Mon Sep 5 16:10:27 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Avid Reader on Mon Sep 5 12:53:53 2011.

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Avid- the OP is 9 months old!!!
Heck, Fred served his time and is now out on parole! (j/k Fred)

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Sep 5 20:28:01 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Sep 5 03:02:32 2011.

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Didn't I tell you that a long time ago? And you didn't believe me?

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Sep 5 20:28:31 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Sep 4 08:18:04 2011.

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Sep 5 20:32:49 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Avid Reader on Mon Sep 5 12:53:53 2011.

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Avid, the educated, prolific photographers here are aware of SEPTA's photography policy. They are also well aware that amateur, non-commercial photo photography is not legally prohibited within any public transit system in the USA except maybe on PATH and maybe at the Pentagon station on WMATA.

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by BigBusDriver on Mon Sep 5 21:42:20 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by bigbusdriver on Mon Sep 5 10:04:57 2011.

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by BigBusDriver on Mon Sep 5 21:43:25 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by bigbusdriver on Mon Sep 5 10:31:50 2011.

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Sep 6 01:09:22 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Sep 5 20:28:01 2011.

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Right.

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