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Posted by BigBusDriver on Wed Dec 29 11:13:54 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 10:11:47 2010. blue8IRT: Oh it's the chat ploice/nazi who knows all.Terrapin Station: Correct. Deal with it. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME! At least TS admits it! How does it feel to be a NAZI, Brian? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 12:37:07 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Dec 29 10:13:21 2010. hahaWish you could have met up with us on the trip yesterday. |
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Posted by R PansePCC on Wed Dec 29 12:40:46 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 09:47:01 2010. I thought it was in a Nilet thread that he said it. I was unable to find it this morning. If you can do a better job researching this please do. Until someone can offer proof that he did say it I will stand by my apology to him. I sighted him as an example of someone who always took the side of the police, especially when it came to Nilet. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 12:40:51 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by BigBusDriver on Wed Dec 29 11:01:08 2010. Ask him. He'll admit it. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 12:50:03 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by R PansePCC on Wed Dec 29 12:40:46 2010. I might have been a very old Nilet thread, from years ago. It won't be easy to find. But he did say it. And I'm sure he'll admit to it. He's never denied it. He seems quite proud of it. So I don't see why you need to apologize. |
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Posted by blue8IRT on Wed Dec 29 13:07:04 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 12:37:07 2010. And I wish you were a patient where I work. |
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Posted by R PansePCC on Wed Dec 29 13:07:10 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 12:50:03 2010. I know he said it too, but I want to be able to back up what I wrote, and at this point I can't. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 13:11:46 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by R PansePCC on Wed Dec 29 13:07:10 2010. But you can't back up everything here since finding old posts is so difficult. Every rational person here knows that. And who cares about the irrational people?So if your word is good, which it most certainly is, then the rational people should believe that you are making a good faith recollection. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Dec 29 13:24:21 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by R PansePCC on Wed Dec 29 09:36:26 2010. Brotha-man, no need to apologize for anything!! It's all good!! As I stated before, next time just save the judging for if and when someone should make a comment. This was all unnecessary especially since the persons whose names you brought up said nothing at all, and the one of them, myself, who did only offered a sympathy and apology that Fred G had to go thru that silliness much as others, sadly, have!!Again, to date, I only can speak for myself that I have had no problems whatsoever. Sure, an officer might ask, but after a good explanation, all in good attitude and faith, I have been able to go on shooting as I always do, without any problems to date, since I ever got into rail photography. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 13:30:12 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Dec 29 13:24:21 2010. Way to totally miss his point... |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Dec 29 13:32:56 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 12:07:09 2010. Thanks for the support and kind words, all. I'm typing away so i'm not letting it drop.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Dec 29 13:34:52 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Fred G on Wed Dec 29 13:32:56 2010. Well, I hope this matter totally gets thrown out, and let the persons responsible get what they deserve in terms of disciplinary actions and such!! Sorry that happened to you, Fred!! One misinformed bad apple always seems to spoil the bunch, and it sucks. |
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Posted by R PansePCC on Wed Dec 29 13:36:59 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Dec 29 13:24:21 2010. I feel that two posters asked for proof of my statement and I can't back it up. I respect them for questioning me, because they don't know me and can't determine if I made that statement up or not. That is why I am apologizing. I am pretty certain that Jeff did write those words years ago and at this point Terrapin is the only other poster who remembers this. I thank him for backing me up and vouching for my honesty. Paul you know I am jealous of you because you never seem to meet up with the nasty elements of police departments like so many of the rest of us do. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Dec 29 13:38:29 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 12:37:07 2010. Me too! Hopefully next year things will work out a bit better. |
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Re: At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly |
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Posted by R PansePCC on Wed Dec 29 13:41:21 2010, in response to Re: At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Dec 29 10:40:36 2010. I understand your point completely. Let's move on from here. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Dec 29 13:43:39 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by R PansePCC on Wed Dec 29 13:36:59 2010. Rich, you needn't prove anything to anyone. I look at it as it being the past, dead and gone, so why bring it back??? I will say that, for the record, I do recall Jeff saying something to that effect, but hey it was his own opinion and he is entitled to it, and we should respect that, though it may not be popular, it is his own opinion.As for jealous, there is nothing to be jealous of, as whenever I have been questioned, my openness and straightforwardness regarding what I am doing have never failed me yet. And I have shot one after the other after the other and so on with photos, many in the presence of officers, with no problems at all, and even had officers admit they knew of there being no photo policy restricting photography of the MTA system, and that it was all good, as long as no trespassing was involved. While I have no clue how SEPTA regards things, I am confident the day comes I visit Philly, I will have little if any problem whatsoever much as I have everywhere else, more towards no problems than little problems. Situations and attitudes of people always differ, and people handle things differently, so how things go down will always differ from person to person, and I do understand and acknowledge that. |
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Posted by BigBusDriver on Wed Dec 29 14:16:29 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 13:11:46 2010. Good faith does not = Proff!As YOU have stated (and I don't need Proff for this) many times is Proff is needed! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 14:31:36 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by BigBusDriver on Wed Dec 29 14:16:29 2010. Nope. You're completely wrong. |
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Posted by blue8IRT on Wed Dec 29 15:20:38 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by blue8IRT on Wed Dec 29 13:07:04 2010. No, that would classify you as a human. They would not allow you in. |
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Posted by BigBusDriver on Wed Dec 29 16:33:09 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 14:31:36 2010. Proff? |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Dec 29 17:22:03 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Easy on Mon Dec 27 20:17:37 2010. Lol |
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Posted by blue8IRT on Wed Dec 29 18:13:54 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 27 20:13:06 2010. Doesn't have to relevant to you or anyone else. It's my right. It's my opinion. You never agree with me anyway, so just tune me out. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 18:16:58 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by blue8IRT on Wed Dec 29 18:13:54 2010. Has nothing to do with it being your opinion. It is simply irrelevant. YOU should take your own advice and tune me out, LOL! |
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Posted by blue8IRT on Wed Dec 29 19:36:40 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 18:16:58 2010. And you should hold your breath until your face turns blue. You have blown up this thing into all out war and you are fighting with yourself. You think you are important, you are impo'tent. You will never get it through your pre-historic skull that YOU are irrelevant and no one really gives a shit what you say because everything you do say is distorted. You're pissed because you can't control everyone, anyone, yourself. Get a grip. Shrivel up already. Do not ever direct anyone else, direct yourself. Critique yourself not anyone else. Schwing yourself. Never try this again, your too dumb to get to the end of it. Have a nice day, bug wit. |
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Posted by BigBusDriver on Wed Dec 29 20:40:42 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by blue8IRT on Wed Dec 29 19:36:40 2010. Bug wit?Right up there with CRIKEY! This place is broadening my conversational skills! |
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Posted by JayMan on Wed Dec 29 20:47:03 2010, in response to Re: At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 15:06:16 2010. Hey I know that guy...photoed him in the Lower East Side once :p |
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Posted by JayMan on Wed Dec 29 21:06:47 2010, in response to War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 27 17:57:43 2010. Wow Fred I'm very sorry to hear that this happened. A clear case of an over-testosteroned cop trying to enforce his sense of authority. I'm glad you had someone else present to verify the real events. I hope you take full legal action and call as much attention to this as possible so it is just us railfans that are talking about it, and maybe we can curb these yahoos once and for all. |
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Posted by BigBusDriver on Thu Dec 30 07:54:00 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by BigBusDriver on Wed Dec 29 16:33:09 2010. bumpYawn. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Dec 30 18:49:02 2010, in response to War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 27 17:57:43 2010. http://phillyphoto.wordpress.com/2010/03/16/i-will-arrest-you/#comment-182A blogger relates a similar experience to mine This is a good find. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Thu Dec 30 18:55:23 2010, in response to Here's A Similar SEPTA Harassment to Mine (was Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly), posted by Fred G on Thu Dec 30 18:49:02 2010. and the pig apologists come in with that tired "Lay their lives on the line" line. As soon as I hear that BULLSHIT, I disregard anything else the moron has to say. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Dec 30 19:24:38 2010, in response to Here's A Similar SEPTA Harassment to Mine (was Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly), posted by Fred G on Thu Dec 30 18:49:02 2010. and people wonder why cops are sometimes referred to as pigs. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Dec 30 19:41:00 2010, in response to Re: Here's A Similar SEPTA Harassment to Mine (was Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly), posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Dec 30 19:24:38 2010. thats what i call them ! |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Dec 30 20:16:39 2010, in response to Here's A Similar SEPTA Harassment to Mine (was Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly), posted by Fred G on Thu Dec 30 18:49:02 2010. Now I'm worried about taking photos at 69th St.This whole thing has gone too far. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Dec 30 22:01:05 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Dec 29 10:11:40 2010. For what it's worth, I think there is a bit too much generalization of NY'ers. I don't hate Philadelphia (maybe of some of the things they did, like the Rt. 23 trolley for instance, but not the city as a whole), nor have I detected any general bad attitude from people I hang out with. If anything, I feel sorry for Philadelphia, when I think of how it used to be such a great railroad hub (I felt it most keenly when we were taking pictures at North Philadelphia last year). Besides, for every issue I can think of about Philadelphia, I can name at least one juicy issue about NY to match it. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Dec 31 01:16:45 2010, in response to Re: Here's A Similar SEPTA Harassment to Mine (was Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly), posted by RockParkMan on Thu Dec 30 18:55:23 2010. What the fuck is WRONG with you? Do you make rash generalizations about every "group" of people?Yes, there are officers out there that are unworthy of their badge. Yes, there are too many of them and those that abuse their position to uphold the law should be fired. However, to put ALL of the officers in one single group is simply ridiculous. My god, if things went your way, all police departments would be disbanded and our country can go into a state of chaos! GET...A...GRIP! |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Dec 31 01:29:45 2010, in response to Here's A Similar SEPTA Harassment to Mine (was Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly), posted by Fred G on Thu Dec 30 18:49:02 2010. I'm glad this is coming to light. Not only does this policy need to be reiterated, but it seems like some SEPTA officers need to be reminded that their job isn't to bully people around.The lack of professionalism with the officer in the linked article as well as the officer who rode the BSL is atrocious! I wish these stories made it into the newspaper... |
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Posted by Randyo on Fri Dec 31 02:53:35 2010, in response to Re: Here's A Similar SEPTA Harassment to Mine (was Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly), posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Dec 31 01:29:45 2010. As I have mentioned before in several posts what needs to happen is for another police officer preferable a very high ranking one like a captain or inspector who is also a railfan to have a similar encounter with an overzealous cop and give the errant officer an extremely vitriolic dressing down as to what the law is and proper police procedures. |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Dec 31 03:47:10 2010, in response to Re: Here's A Similar SEPTA Harassment to Mine (was Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly), posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Dec 31 01:16:45 2010. WORD!!!! |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Fri Dec 31 11:20:05 2010, in response to Here's A Similar SEPTA Harassment to Mine (was Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly), posted by Fred G on Thu Dec 30 18:49:02 2010. So much for the "City of Brotherly Love"!!! That sucks, man!!!I say you, Fred, and this guy should both strongly consider some kind of legal action against SEPTA and the SEPTA PD. I mean this truly is absurd. Sorry you all are having such hassles in Philadelphia!! |
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Posted by blue8IRT on Fri Dec 31 16:41:30 2010, in response to Re: At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Dec 29 10:40:36 2010. Makes absolutely no difference regarding the facts of the incident. It remains that TS is still on here, still going to spew un-checked and no one is going to do anything. And this little dick insulted me when I told him I survived cancer. He insulted me because I told him my age and he insulted me just because I have a different point of view. I am not going to side step this little critter. Due justice should be levied upon the one rotten apple. We all have the same rights and without laws, rules and guidance there is chaos. |
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Posted by Joe Saitta on Fri Dec 31 16:56:38 2010, in response to Re: At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by blue8IRT on Fri Dec 31 16:41:30 2010. We can all save these posts; I'd be reasonably certain some of us may have done so already. Counsel has repeatedly advised that anyone considering the establishment of any action which may be for libel, slander, false accusations or harassment should gather as much hard evidence as possible over an extended period of time to show a consistent pattern, for any future legal action against the alleged perpetrator. Then also, when his child is old enough to understand, gather the barrage of negative and malicious posts together and forward them to that kid - then he'll really know what type of sub-human being his father really is. And, perhaps teaching his child to act this way might even constitute some form of child abuse. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Fri Dec 31 17:28:42 2010, in response to Re: Here's A Similar SEPTA Harassment to Mine (was Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly), posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Dec 31 01:16:45 2010. As long as folks like you kiss bluesuit ass, they'll continue to treat "We the People' like shit |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Fri Dec 31 17:31:30 2010, in response to Re: Here's A Similar SEPTA Harassment to Mine (was Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly), posted by Dave on Fri Dec 31 03:47:10 2010. how come right wingers suck pig dick while claiming to hate the government? Attorneys, not morons with guns who have a hero complex protect me. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Dec 31 17:55:14 2010, in response to Re: Here's A Similar SEPTA Harassment to Mine (was Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly), posted by Randyo on Fri Dec 31 02:53:35 2010. A great idea! Undercover supervisor indeed. Even if they just accompany or use a railfan as bait, it would be useful.I always liked Carlos's method of having the camera record the encounter as proof. |
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Posted by blue8IRT on Fri Dec 31 18:35:47 2010, in response to Re: At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Joe Saitta on Fri Dec 31 16:56:38 2010. Wow! All that from people innocently posting messages about subway trains. The world has to stop for a moment and find out how to treat each other before it's too late. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Dec 31 18:38:11 2010, in response to Re: Here's A Similar SEPTA Harassment to Mine (was Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly), posted by RockParkMan on Fri Dec 31 17:31:30 2010. agreed |
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Posted by SchuminWeb on Fri Dec 31 21:41:24 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by 5119 on Tue Dec 28 15:29:12 2010. Yeah, unfortunately, photographers are low-hanging fruit compared to having to deal with actual criminals. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sat Jan 1 15:59:45 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by BMTLines on Mon Dec 27 18:11:28 2010. Don't forget:7. It only happens to Nilet! |
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Posted by Nilet on Sat Jan 1 16:06:44 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by R PansePCC on Wed Dec 29 09:36:26 2010.  The SubChat search engine has always sucked major @$$.But don't retract that just yet; he really did say that. It was on May 24th or early May 25th, 2008, and probably in one of the "William F. Bankhead" threads, rather than one of mine. Unfortunately, those threads are so heavily fractured (partially still up, partially reefed, and in all likelihood, partially deleted outright) that a cite would be very hard to find even if it does still exist. It might have also been in the "Israel and Syria are talking" thread; the Wayback Machine shows numerous posts by both of us in that thread, but won't cough up any links and I'm not sure where that thread went even if it is still online. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sat Jan 1 16:09:25 2011, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Nilet on Sat Jan 1 16:06:44 2011. Found it! Here's your cite:Jeff Rosen did, in fact, threaten to break my camera. |
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