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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by arnine on Tue Dec 28 17:54:49 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Dec 28 05:52:18 2010.

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It was said here and I think most can figure out what I'm referring to

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by arnine on Tue Dec 28 17:55:45 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue Dec 28 11:32:47 2010.

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I wasn't referring to Fred as I've said in my original response was that I totally believe Fred. Fred's a top notch guy IMHO

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by arnine on Tue Dec 28 17:56:22 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Dec 28 11:37:22 2010.

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I agree

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Re: At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by 3-9 on Tue Dec 28 17:57:11 2010, in response to Re: At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Amanda on Tue Dec 28 16:36:15 2010.

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If I tried that I think it will have the opposite effect than what I intended 8-S.


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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by 3-9 on Tue Dec 28 18:01:44 2010, in response to War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 27 17:57:43 2010.

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FWIW, I'm sorry to hear you got hassled and even got a citation. You've always been a decent sort and you didn't deserve this crap.

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Re: At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Amanda on Tue Dec 28 18:04:58 2010, in response to Re: At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by RockParkMan on Tue Dec 28 17:26:25 2010.

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Don't forget Bingbong :)

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Re: At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by RockParkMan on Tue Dec 28 18:18:41 2010, in response to Re: At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Amanda on Tue Dec 28 18:04:58 2010.

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How could I have forgotten Bingbong!!!

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Re: At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Dec 28 23:10:59 2010, in response to Re: At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Dec 28 15:11:58 2010.

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IAWTP

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Dec 28 23:14:15 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 13:38:08 2010.

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Whoa, whoa, whoa now. You definitely have a double standard here. Why isn't there more to this story as there are with other peoples stories? Were you there? How do you know Fred wasn't surly with the cops? You are giving Fred a lot of leeway here that you never gave Nilet and others. I certainly am being negative with you on this. You posted long ago that Fred, Peter Ehrlich and others never get confronted by the police. I have photographed with Peter several times and we have been stopped more than once. I was with Fred on a Nostalgia Trip / MoD trip and Fred was stopped at Coney Island by the police. What about the Rail Magazine people at Broad Channel. You never gave them the benefit of the doubt like you just gave Fred. They must have done something wrong? What if Fred had this hassle with one of your favorite Metro North Cops? Would there then be another side to this story? I've singled you and Jeff Rosen (Who stated that he would have smashed Nilet's camera if he were still a cop), because you guys never think that the cops do anything wrong. There are others out there too that would never give Nilet the benefit of the doubt, but Fred never does anything wrong.

Excellent post.

Are you threatening me with a flood of spam mails? I've heard that you like to do that when people upset you.

I've also heard that. In fact I believe it to be quite true. And I know you do too.

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Dec 28 23:18:44 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 14:53:00 2010.

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Of course Fred is not guilty, that was the whole point. Neither was Nilet which was the other point. You and so many others here have vilified Nilet in the past and have now given Fred the benefit of the doubt. I am just bringing up the double standard that I see.

I agree* with this post.

*Except for the part about about Nilet not being guilty. While it seems highly unlikely he was guilty, I'm not going to state that with complete certainly.

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Dec 28 23:19:50 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 12:07:09 2010.

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1) I'm sorry to hear that this happened to you.

2) I'm glad to see you get the respect of the others on this board and they all came to your defense.

3) Nilet must be scratching his head wondering why he doesn't get afforded the same respect.

4) I'm glad none of the police apologists have even dared to doubt your story. C'mon Jeff Rosen, Train Man Paul.....why so quiet? You two clowns and the other police loving fools love to stick it to Nilet, why not Fred?

5) Best of luck with this hassle as it goes further.


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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Dec 28 23:20:51 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 12:07:09 2010.

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IAWTP

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Dec 28 23:39:06 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Dec 28 23:18:44 2010.

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There are quite a few people here that have had problems, and are MUCH more likely to make a bad situation worse by their attitude and actions.

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Dec 28 23:40:08 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 13:38:08 2010.

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I've singled you and Jeff Rosen (Who stated that he would have smashed Nilet's camera if he were still a cop)

Proof?

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Re: At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by BMTLines on Tue Dec 28 23:41:23 2010, in response to Re: At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Dec 28 15:11:58 2010.

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"If this can happen to Fred, it's quite obvious this can happen to ANYONE one here".

Exactly!

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 00:03:18 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Dec 28 23:40:08 2010.

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Seriously?

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Re: At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Dec 29 00:05:08 2010, in response to Re: At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by RockParkMan on Tue Dec 28 18:18:41 2010.

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you could try

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Dec 29 00:14:54 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 00:03:18 2010.

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Why wouldn't I be?

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 00:28:18 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Dec 29 00:14:54 2010.

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Oh no reason...

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed Dec 29 00:33:11 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Dec 28 05:51:24 2010.

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If I am SO INCORRECT, then EXPLAIN!

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 00:37:20 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed Dec 29 00:33:11 2010.

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Obviously if "he thought [Fred was] impeding passenger and subway traffic when [Fred was] taking the pictures" then he would have cited Fred with a citation stating such. But he didn't. There's the "EXPLANATION", so you're "SO INCORRECT".

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Dec 29 00:51:55 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 00:28:18 2010.

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I don't see why Jeff Rosen would post on this board if he really feels that way.

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed Dec 29 01:29:59 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 00:37:20 2010.

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BLOODY HELL WITH YOU!

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 06:28:30 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Dec 29 00:51:55 2010.

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"police loving fools"

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 06:29:42 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed Dec 29 01:29:59 2010.

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So instead of continuing the discussion, you just make an unwarranted personal attack?

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Dec 29 07:04:03 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by BMTLines on Tue Dec 28 16:06:40 2010.

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And what about the cases when it appears the photographer may have been violating other rules?

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by kp5308 on Wed Dec 29 07:35:07 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Dec 28 23:14:15 2010.

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Are you threatening me with a flood of spam mails? I've heard that you like to do that when people upset you.

I've also heard that. In fact I believe it to be quite true. And I know you do too.

IAWTP

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Dec 29 07:41:19 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue Dec 28 11:58:59 2010.

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I can't miss three days of work and still pay the bills. I had it this past February, and it took me three days to get out of it, and I wasn't even called on a case! The first day we sat there the whole day, and then about 3:00, they call us into a chambers, and the judge explains everything, and says we have to come back tomorrow. We come back the next day, and they talk to half of us. Day three, I finally was able to get out of it. THREE DAYS, and would have been more if I got called on the case! I can't afford that.

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by R PansePCC on Wed Dec 29 09:36:26 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Dec 28 23:40:08 2010.

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I have used the search engine on subchat and I can't find the thread where Jeff Rosen says that, so I have no proof. I am certain that he did say it because I remember responding to him that he was an asshole for saying that.

So with no proof that I can find, I will retract my statement and I apologize to Jeff Rosen for accusing him of saying that he would break Nilet's camera.



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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by blue8IRT on Wed Dec 29 09:45:54 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 27 20:13:06 2010.

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Here's irrelevant.
How old are you?
Does your mother know you turned on the pc?
Who gave you permission to try and think?
Who allows you out of the baby crib each day?
Do you have diaper rash?
What makes you so irrelevant?
Do you know what an opinon is? No, wait, you could never know that.
How do recognize right from wrong and why are you so wrong?
You couldn't possible know me, therefore your remarks are irrelevant.
Why do you try and judge others?
What gives you your imagined superior rights over others?
If what I say is irrelevant, you don't exist.

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 09:47:01 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by R PansePCC on Wed Dec 29 09:36:26 2010.

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No need to apologize. Former cop and current mailman Jeff Rosen did say he would break a photographer's camera if he tried to do something like defend his rights to take photos.

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 09:48:18 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by blue8IRT on Wed Dec 29 09:45:54 2010.

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What you say is irrelevant. Your posts are like the ramblings of a mentally deranged hobbit.

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Dec 29 09:49:15 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by EastSideRider on Mon Dec 27 22:04:03 2010.

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. Where in reality, what works for one doesn't work for another.

This is a concept lost on the majority of subchatters

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Dec 29 09:50:19 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by EastSideRider on Mon Dec 27 22:15:56 2010.

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You are too much Bro, heh heh...

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by blue8IRT on Wed Dec 29 10:05:25 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 09:48:18 2010.

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Whatever you say, asshole. Wipe yourself.


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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Dec 29 10:06:23 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 09:48:18 2010.

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"ramblings of a mentally deranged hobbit."

LOL wow that's a new one!

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 10:07:59 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Dec 29 10:06:23 2010.

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Thanks. You gotta agree though, right?

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by blue8IRT on Wed Dec 29 10:08:51 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 00:37:20 2010.

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Oh it's the chat ploice/nazi who knows all.

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by blue8IRT on Wed Dec 29 10:09:31 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 06:29:42 2010.

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He's just doing what you do. Irrelevant.

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Dec 29 10:11:40 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by EastSideRider on Mon Dec 27 22:04:03 2010.

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In any case, I'm tired of the Philly hate by people, by usually uppity NY-ers, who don't even know how things work down here.

I don't understand this "hate". We down here don't have such hate of New York and its residents...

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 10:11:47 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by blue8IRT on Wed Dec 29 10:08:51 2010.

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Correct. Deal with it.

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by blue8IRT on Wed Dec 29 10:12:43 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 10:11:47 2010.

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Your imagination is out of control. Police your own self.

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Dec 29 10:13:21 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 10:07:59 2010.

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I'm trying to imagine what a mentally deranged hobbit would be like, lol.

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by blue8IRT on Wed Dec 29 10:15:08 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by blue8IRT on Wed Dec 29 10:12:43 2010.

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I implore the people who run the site: Remove this contributor from our midst. He is and acrid, acid tongued mole.

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by blue8IRT on Wed Dec 29 10:15:43 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Dec 29 10:13:21 2010.

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Ask the one who knows. The one who put it on here.

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Dec 29 10:17:35 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by blue8IRT on Wed Dec 29 10:15:08 2010.

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I love how people keep pointing TS out as if he's the only person capable of being a jerk on this website. It does take two to tangle, ya know. That's all I will say.

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by blue8IRT on Wed Dec 29 10:24:20 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Dec 29 10:17:35 2010.

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That's fine. This person TS does not have the right to tell me what my thoughts or opinions are unless they can reach a proper conclusion or make a proper, substantiated argument.Making up faux rules for one's own pleasure are what's really irrelevant. Everyone knows this happen with regularity, and no one wants to eradicate the propblem. There are rules that people need to live by. There is a certain respect that is measured by a person's interaction in an open forum. When that is regularly dismissed, then the perpatrator needs to be removed.

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Re: At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Dec 29 10:40:36 2010, in response to Re: At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 15:06:16 2010.

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It's all good, man!!! Just next time, wait for a comment to occur before you make judgments and start calling people out and start namecalling. I had no interest, again, in anything to do with this thread other than my sympathies and apologies to those affected by another round of misinformed official's misconduct.

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by BigBusDriver on Wed Dec 29 11:01:08 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 09:47:01 2010.

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Proff?

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Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly

Posted by BigBusDriver on Wed Dec 29 11:06:41 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by blue8IRT on Wed Dec 29 10:09:31 2010.

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IAWTCP.

"I Agree With That CRIKEY Post"

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