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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Sat Dec 26 16:43:18 2009, in response to Re: Future expansion wish list?, posted by trainsarefun on Sat Dec 26 15:37:40 2009. I'm talking about the one and only OB branch. I don't know if your confused, but take a look at it on google maps. The line is damn near arrow straight from the curve at Nassau to Roslyn, and is fairly straight through Glen Head to Sea Cliff, overall a good portion of the line. Yes, the line cuts a little north between OB and Locust Valley, but it's hardly a circle. If anything, you're talking about the West Hempstead line. And what was this different purpose and different alignment when it was built?"It's not merely a question of density, which in most of the areas is rather low. It's rather the question of whether LIRR provides a faster, cheaper commute to get where people in those areas want to go. The answer to that question is found by looking at the loading on the trains." -First of all, take a look again. The area is almost as dense as the PW line between Manhasset and Port Washington, which gets significant ridership. And as I said before, south of Roslyn, the density is at the same level as the south shore. Just look at google maps satellite view. And you're right, the answer currently is no, LIRR does not do what those people want. Why? Because the line is painfully slow for no reason at all, so everyone who can instead drives to either Syosset or Manhasset. Electrify it and you'll see ridership numbers jump. That's all that needs to be done. No straightening out no nothing else. Electrify, that's all. And BTW, LIRR was in fact originally designed with intra-island commuting services. There were trains running from Oyster Bay to Valley Stream via Mineola/CLP/WH, trains from Greenport to Bridgehampton via Manorville, etc. That infrastructure was all destroyed with no vision for the future, and is now sorely needed today. That's why I'm saying discounting things that aren't currently on the table is a BIG mistake and will only serve to screw us in the future. HPA and LIC aren't where people want to go. Brooklyn, however, is a destination. Some of these massive development projects stall for years at a time, but Wang owns the Coliseum so it's not like he's just some hopeful with no other ties to the area. If there's any hope of development in that area, it's through him. |
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