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Posted by trainsarefun on Mon Dec 28 12:29:08 2009, in response to Re: Future expansion wish list?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Dec 27 17:25:59 2009. Face it, the RR built the OB line primarily to serve riders traveling from that area to NYC.Or maybe they built it to get to CT and MA and RI. Who knows? The reality is that it's an awful alignment to get to Jamaica. And in 2010, given proximity to other lines and the fact that most people drive to the train, why spend tens or hundreds of millions or maybe even billions (this is MTA, after all) to shuffle around ridership? As for Brooklyn, I'm saying it's more expensive for riders whose destination or origin (not both) is between Jamaica and FBA. I'm confused. Aren't the origin and the destination usually different? Except for a railfan, maybe? Are you saying that LIRR's customers who get off at ENY or Nostrand Av are the concern? If so, it's ridiculous to hold up progress for that small a crowd, assuming that they don't already have metrocards. Plus, here is another reason why continued LIRR operation holds the line hostage to progress. One way fare from Nostrand Av to East NY is $4.50 off peak/$6.50 peak. The monthly is $149. So how are these people saving money compared to a flat $2.25 fare and $89 monthly? And that's ignoring the rather infrequent service with LIRR completely. And again, what about capacity? I'm not talking about 25-30 years down the road, I'm talking 100 years. In 100 years, I hope that the debates are about rapid transit....on Mars! Still, I think that you are just ignoring the fact that LIRR's continued operation is hampering progress and better quality of life for many people. Brooklyn and Queens need this service now. If you want to look at population, Nassau County's has declined over the last 40 years, while NYC's has grown. And more people live in Brooklyn alone, by far, than in all of Suffolk County. NYCT taking over the Atlantic Line west of Jamaica is a huge net good for everyone. Until that happens, there is only paltry, expensive service at massive subsidy rate under LIRR. |
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