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Re: HBLR Extension

Posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Oct 17 17:39:57 2016, in response to Re: HBLR Extension, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 12 07:09:08 2016.

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If the survey was flawed then it should be done again with the question of the 7 train being put in there as well. It's the only way to gauge with any degree of accuracy whether or not this would be worth it. In the mean time, was there ever any information published on the result of bus ridership on routes running along Hoboken division branches into PABT after Secaucus Junction opened? As in, did riders who have one seat bus rides into PABT switch to rail when Secaucus Junction opened, or did they stick with their one seat bus ride?

Engineering issues aside of a car (I'd imagine something with a recessed pantograph could be designed) that could fit in 63rd St, the operational flexibility of linking ESA with Gateway would depend on the ability of inter-agency cooperation to exist. Connecting the 2 would improve the impact they have by making better use of the new capacity each project provides. Admittedly, there would have to be some sort of thru running agreement to make this possible. While LIRR could theoretically yard in NJ after going through the tunnel, there's no place for NJT to yard on LI. That means this would have to be some sort of regional (say, 20 mile radius) thru-running operation. But is that something that is really so far fetched? Look at our region. Traffic is horrendous during ever increasing time periods, and not just at the choke points. A regional service could have a beneficial impact on other area highways as wells. It's not to say that there are mass amounts of people looking to get from, say, Jamaica to Newark, but these are areas that are so dense and already have so much movement on both ends that a regional service ends up serving needs that exist already with 1 train, rather than doing it with 2 and then wasting capacity on running an empty train from midtown to the yard.

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