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Posted by RockParkMan on Mon Aug 13 15:31:41 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 13 10:31:28 2012. Do you guys need a hotel room??? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 13 17:14:54 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Aug 13 06:46:07 2012. LOL! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 13 17:16:58 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 13 06:41:10 2012. Show me democrats that try to get republican voting blocks thrown out and maybe we'd have something to discuss. This is entirely about disenfranchising voters, and surely you know this entire exercise is bullsquirt ... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 13 17:18:21 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Fred G on Mon Aug 13 10:14:25 2012. Thank you. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Mon Aug 13 17:51:46 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 13 10:31:13 2012. The term that is used is RINO. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Mon Aug 13 17:55:09 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by TERRapin station on Mon Aug 13 08:24:39 2012. Suck my balls you Goddamn piece of filth. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Aug 13 23:13:33 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 12 22:13:36 2012. The "other forms of ID" are not typically accepted under these new voter ID laws. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Aug 14 03:22:46 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 13 17:16:58 2012. This is entirely about disenfranchising voters, and surely you know this entire exercise is bullsquirt ...Let's see. I wrote "Requiring ID to vote is still not justified IMO, the risks of disenfranchisement outweigh the potential for fraud." If you are following the thread, including the OP that I made, you'd know where I stand. While trying to have Chris explain his viewpoints, your repeated interjection that this is only about fraud doesn't do anything to facilitate civil debate and conversation. We know where I (and you) stand. Why doesn't Chris get a chance to express his viewpoints, and why can't you then actually debate the merit of his viewpoints instead of just repeating yourself like a broken record? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 14 03:43:35 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Aug 14 03:22:46 2012. Because "liberals blah blah blah ..." there's just no point. But feel free if you want to, I'll STFU on your request. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Aug 14 04:25:08 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 14 03:43:35 2012. There's no point because I pointed out the flaws in your "argument"? That seems to be your line of reasoning whenever someone points those flaws out to you. Have it your way, but as Fred said, and no one here is immune from that. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 14 04:46:34 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Aug 14 04:25:08 2012. I don't care. My mind's made up politically, nothing's going to change it. Same for Chris. It is not *I* who am wasting my time here. And thanks for your judgement. Means a lot to me. Now move along. :) |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Aug 14 05:36:41 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Aug 12 14:23:33 2012. You better have more than that because this stuff is going to court. PA has already conceded they don't have enough evidence of voter fraud.Pennsylvania GOP Leader: Voter ID Will Help Romney Win State your pal, Fred |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Aug 14 06:52:38 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 14 04:46:34 2012. The point isn't to change people's minds necessarily, just to have a civil conversation about the topics. Some people here are interested in doing that. If you aren't, let those of us who are attempting to do so without interfering. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 14 08:11:36 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Aug 14 06:52:38 2012. That's a good suggestion since I know you aren't telling him to do it right? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Aug 14 08:27:17 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Aug 14 06:52:38 2012. Excellent post. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Aug 14 08:32:25 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 14 03:43:35 2012. I didnt say anything in my posts about "liberals"..liberals..blau blah blah. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 14 08:40:12 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Aug 14 08:32:25 2012. Extremist leftists....extremists leftists....blah blah.Pelosi...The Word....blah blah blah. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Aug 14 09:55:02 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 13 12:33:10 2012. Well, ain't you the perfect little detective? What is your definition of "Good Friends"? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 14 09:56:26 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Train Dude on Tue Aug 14 09:55:02 2012. What is your definition of "Good Friends"?Something i really doubt someone like him has... |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Aug 14 09:58:38 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 14 09:56:26 2012. Hence. my question! I want to see how our OCD friend defines the term. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 14 10:05:07 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Train Dude on Tue Aug 14 09:58:38 2012. You know it took him 11 DAYS to respond to THIS question and he didn't even give a clear answer he just skated around, hence his MO when backed into a corner..Maybe this time he will man up... Maybe.. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Aug 14 10:08:56 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 14 10:05:07 2012. Man up? He'll need to get a permission slip from his wife, first. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 14 10:09:57 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Train Dude on Tue Aug 14 10:08:56 2012. *Slowly Puts Cup of Seltzer water down* |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 14 10:29:26 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 14 08:40:12 2012. The Word post was in response to YOUR post where you posted a photo of Jesus in reference to Romney, and stated that's how they operate government (or want to). So don't tell me who's posting partisan shit."Extreme Leftists" was in response to people like Bingbong making up nonsensical absurdity, like vandalism used temporary paint, and so forth. If the only place you can find a reference to "tempera" removable paint in a google search in regards to the recent vandalism, then yes, the person making outlandish statements of lunacy is an extreme leftist. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 14 10:30:40 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 14 10:29:26 2012. outlandish statements of lunacy is an extreme leftist.You characterized the Cult of The Ron Paul as extreme leftists. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 14 18:00:06 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Aug 14 06:52:38 2012. That you choose to call out one and only one person for what is the standard procedure in "discussion" here speaks its own volumes. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Aug 15 01:25:11 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 14 18:00:06 2012. Nice try, but there are many posters from across the political spectrum who express frustration nearly daily with your extreme partisanship and unwillingness to engage in productive conversation and civil debate about topics. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 15 01:32:01 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 13 06:41:10 2012. Mr. Chairman, I second the motion. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 15 01:38:47 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Aug 15 01:25:11 2012. And yet you have nothing to say about the "cock" dude and the "lol" dude ... your bias is glaring. Try harder. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Aug 15 01:39:46 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 15 01:38:47 2012. Who? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 15 01:41:39 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 15 01:32:01 2012. And he approves of you, so thirded! :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 15 01:42:13 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Aug 15 01:39:46 2012. He responded to you. So go ahead and give HIM another pass and then worry about me. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 15 01:49:31 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Aug 15 01:25:11 2012. OK ... and now something of MERIT on the topic you wanted to discuss ... feel free ...http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/15/opinion/overt-discrimination-in-ohio.html?hp The above is EXACTLY what I summed up in a simple, single sentence. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Aug 15 02:04:27 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Aug 15 01:25:11 2012. huh?come again? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 15 02:23:16 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Edwards! on Wed Aug 15 02:04:27 2012. Apparently the "International" version of OTchat has much more adult discussion than we get here. :) |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 15 02:33:58 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 15 02:23:16 2012. They get real quinine water too, not to mention wild caught salmon in the salad.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 15 02:45:18 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 15 02:33:58 2012. Dammit! That tears it ... I'm installing TOR and getting behind 7 proxies! :) |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Aug 15 03:18:54 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 15 01:42:13 2012. He is partisan, too, but he hasn't polluted discussions I'm taking part in. I've also never personally actually had a "run in" with him, though I realize many other people have. Same can't be said for you on either count. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 15 03:20:48 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Aug 15 03:18:54 2012. Just wanted to check your sincerity. Fail. Do me favor? DOn't click on any of my messages. Problem solved! |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Aug 15 03:22:45 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 15 01:49:31 2012. Now that wasn't so bad, was it?I don't deny that the likely intention of these voter ID laws is to suppress the vote in certain demographics as opposed to preventing fraud. I'd still like to hear the other side of the argument, however, no matter how wrong I think they might be. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Aug 15 03:29:26 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 15 03:20:48 2012. Sincerity? You asked me a question, I answered it (though you seem to dislike my answer). I certainly wouldn't call what I just wrote a "free pass" to TD, I just said I don't have any personal history with him but realize that others do. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 15 03:36:35 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Aug 15 03:22:45 2012. OK, truce ... now that you're a little more reasonable, the ONLY reason why I posted such a retort in the first place is because I've been keeping up with this issue for MANY years. And although I put it in a simple (what you may decide to be "partisan") is that it's the TRUTH.ONLY republicans go after this stuff, and the link in that article to what's going on in Ohio is only one of 50 states where the same games are played. There was a trial over in Rensselaer this year where the democrats (Rensselaer is SOLIDLY republican) were arrested with claims of trying to do the same thing. Guess what the outcome of the trial was? Yes, I cut to the chase. Yes, I try to make every situation "funny" ... that's my style. Think of me as the "Stewart/Colbert" thing here. I spent over 25 years as a journalist covering politics, even worked for the state of New York building and then running NY's own "C-SPAN" channel called "NY-SCAN" ... I got all fed up with politics a *LONG* time ago. During my years in journalism, I was never allowed to have an opinion and was NEVER allowed to choose sides. Now that I'm out of it, I have DECADES of bile ... I'm taking the cure here because I was never allowed to do it when I was working in the business. Now if somehow you can convince the righties to stop posting shit, I'll be only too happy to get back to cat jokes and having fun - the original purpose of this board. But if I have to sit and wade through shit, then I'm GOING to fling some too, call it "fair and balanced." I'm all for analytics and bouncing around opinions. But when I have to come here and read things like "selcock" and "lol" to responses, PLEASE don't expect me to be any more serious about any of this than the others here. Politico.com, New York Times 538 pages and a raft of other places have people actually DISCUSSING issues. All any of us get here is the same old copypasta and I'll give it exactly the respect it deserves. That's what my thing is all about here. Sorry it bothers you, but both bingbong and I believe in "proportional response" ... I'd MAKE the effort like I once used to here to be more like a moderator and journalist ... but there's absolutely zero inspiration to bother here with the responses from the others. Hope you understand. If not, no problem. But I ain't changing until others do. Moo. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 15 03:46:09 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Aug 15 03:29:26 2012. Here's my point. You threw me blame for being "partisan" ... you alluded to me being "childish" ... and you have nothing to say about the others? That's what terrorpin would label "intellectually dishonest" ... why do you have no qualms about behavior that's far worse than mine? If you're going to take a stand, at least be consistent. Peace. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 04:42:42 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 15 03:46:09 2012. Now you see why I don't even bother at times Kevin Lesson Learned? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 15 04:48:18 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 04:42:42 2012. I'm always willing to give ONE explanation. If that doesn't suffice, then we can go to G-2's and hope for the best. :) |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 04:53:16 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 15 04:48:18 2012. Kev check yer mail.. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 15 05:11:26 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 04:53:16 2012. Back at ya. :) |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Aug 15 08:58:52 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Aug 15 03:22:45 2012. The other side of the argument is very simple. Left-wing bring-out-the-vote organizations canvas neighborhoods and sign up new voters with very little regard for eligibility. Therefore we need voter ID laws to make sure that only those who are actually eligible really vote. There is no discrimination here; a well-off person who doesn't meet residency requirements is going to be prevented from voting just like the little old lady who happens never to have gotten her citizenship. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 15 09:54:37 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by AlM on Wed Aug 15 08:58:52 2012. The time to check eligibility is when one registers to vote. That's when ID is produced to prove citizenship. Once on the rolls, you should be able to vote without question. When one signs their registration form, they PERSONALLY swear the information is correct under penalty of PERJURY.Just like the RW howls about guns, they should be enforcing the laws already on the books and stop making new ones. They only serve to oppress. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Aug 15 12:16:17 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 15 03:36:35 2012. And although I put it in a simple (what you may decide to be "partisan") is that it's the TRUTH.But you can't seem to realize when people are on your side, and then proceed to hurt your overall cause. You don't seem to understand how normal debate and conversations flow from your posting style, and because you feel entitled to "cut to the chase" you drive others trying to politely flesh out their viewpoints crazy. Yes, I try to make every situation "funny" ... that's my style. Think of me as the "Stewart/Colbert" thing here. Think what you want, but personally, I don't find your posts to be all that humorous. I can think of plenty of other people who would get my nomination for resident comedian before you. During my years in journalism, I was never allowed to have an opinion and was NEVER allowed to choose sides. Now that I'm out of it, I have DECADES of bile ... I'm taking the cure here because I was never allowed to do it when I was working in the business. How is that the problem of anyone else here? No one forced you to work in journalism as far as I know. Just because you did something way back when that required you to suppress your personal opinions doesn't give you the right to interrupt others' discussions in the way you do. Guess what, other people here have restrictions imposed upon them by their employers, too. It doesn't give us an excuse to be an ass. Now if somehow you can convince the righties to stop posting shit The extreme left does the same thing. Takes one to know one I guess. But when I have to come here and read things like "selcock" and "lol" to responses, PLEASE don't expect me to be any more serious about any of this than the others here. I'm not responsible for the behavior of others. Take your issues up with those people directly, not me. And no one is making you come here, you choose to come here and if the way people treat you makes you so incredibly upset, perhaps you should consider not reading the board or not reading certain people's posts. Politico.com, New York Times 538 pages and a raft of other places have people actually DISCUSSING issues. If you and others stopped the mudslinging, you might discover there are people here discussing the issues too. Again, stop blaming everything on everyone and anyone else. Sorry it bothers you, but both bingbong and I believe in "proportional response" Your response that got this whole thing was far less than proportional considering the polite, reasonable back and forth that was going on before you decided to cut to the chase as you put it. That is why people probably posted sentiments agreeing with what I wrote (I realize others posted the opposite sentiment, too). I'd MAKE the effort like I once used to here to be more like a moderator and journalist ... but there's absolutely zero inspiration to bother here with the responses from the others. This seems to be your usual mantra. Because of X, Y, or Z, I don't feel that I need to do A, B, and/or C and until K and L change their behavior, I won't change mine. Either hold yourself to a higher standard and set an example or stop complaining about how you get treated. I'm not going to try convincing anyone here I'm a perfect angel myself, but admitting you have a role to play in all the things you are complaining about might be a good first step towards the community you supposedly want to be in. |
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