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Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER |
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Posted by BIE on Mon Dec 5 20:25:25 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Dec 5 17:18:14 2005. The B-1 is a boondoggle. that is why B-52s STILL can wreck mors enemy shit than any other conventional weapon in the inventory. I would support a new generation bomber that would be designed to carry a big load and have Stealth characteristics The B-2 doesn't have the payload. |
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Posted by BIE on Mon Dec 5 20:26:34 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Dec 5 17:52:30 2005. America's involvement |
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Posted by BIE on Mon Dec 5 20:26:53 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Dec 5 16:45:03 2005. IAWTP |
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Posted by BIE on Mon Dec 5 20:28:52 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Dec 5 19:42:51 2005. GIVE.. ME.. NUKES..BIE A SANE ENVIRO LIBERAL |
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Posted by BIE on Mon Dec 5 20:32:04 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 5 20:06:25 2005. "Speaking of which, why is diesel now more expensive than high-test gasoline? That stuff's cheaper to produce than regular gas, and indeed used to be way cheaper per gallon than regular gas. (What is is, that "low-sulfur" excuse now . . . ?)"Some fuel taxes are based on the BTU content of the fuel. Since #2Diesel has more BTU/gal than gasoline, the tax per gallon is higher. |
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Posted by BIE on Mon Dec 5 20:34:46 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Dec 5 18:32:15 2005. Thank Pope John Paul II for the fall of the Soviet Bloc. Too bad the current Pope is such a disappointment. |
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Posted by Line 13 on Mon Dec 5 20:34:54 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by Flushing Line 7 on Mon Dec 5 16:34:14 2005. Yes, but most of those are not Arabs.New Brunswick Station asked "Question: if the Arabs didn't go around hating someone, would they be a problem?" You can't refer to all Muslims as "Arabs" because the vast majority aren't. Line 13 |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 5 20:35:45 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by Line 13 on Mon Dec 5 20:34:54 2005. Nor are most Muslims Islamists. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 5 20:35:45 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Dec 5 19:24:53 2005. No, the VC was so ingrained in Vietnam that we, as outsiders could not figure out who was who. Tet was a disaster for both sides; it was Antietam, and we saw both sides getting killed on TV. The Westmoreland debacle did more damage to the war effort than did any reporting on it.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 5 20:37:22 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by Flushing Line 7 on Mon Dec 5 16:40:10 2005. The UDA are also outlaws, but they aren't required to decommission, funny enough.Bush also backs the Palestinians, didn't you know? He sent money recently to help al-Aqsa members join the Palestinian armed forces. |
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Re: IS GEORGE BUSH ... It's ludicrous to call a sitting President ''best'' or ''worst'' |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 5 20:39:41 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH ... It's ludicrous to call a sitting President ''best'' or ''worst'', posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 5 18:50:11 2005. I agree. |
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Posted by BIE on Mon Dec 5 20:42:23 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Dec 5 19:12:24 2005. 8-) |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Dec 5 20:43:30 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by BIE on Mon Dec 5 20:34:46 2005. The current Pope is a n00b. He hasn't had enough time to build a good reputation. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 5 20:44:46 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Dec 5 20:43:30 2005. He's no n00b. Even during his time as head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith, they were calling him "John Paul III" as a sort of inside joke . . . |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Dec 5 20:47:14 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 5 20:44:46 2005. Yeah, but the Inquisition is not the WHOLE Church! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 5 20:48:40 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Dec 5 20:47:14 2005. That is true, but don't forget the Pope is infallible . . . |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Dec 5 20:51:03 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 5 20:48:40 2005. .... in Catholic belief. Nonetheless, he's technically a n00b. |
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Posted by David H on Mon Dec 5 20:56:22 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 5 20:48:40 2005. Right..You can't TALK HIM OUTTA nuthin... |
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Posted by David H on Mon Dec 5 21:03:28 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 5 18:42:12 2005. Of course.Not that anybody will believe that for a minute. |
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Posted by BIE on Mon Dec 5 21:04:46 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Dec 5 20:43:30 2005. Trust me, he is a far right winger. Of course JPII's shoes were hard to fill. |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Dec 5 21:17:36 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by BIE on Mon Dec 5 21:04:46 2005. The point of picking Ratzinger was to dillydally and make sure nobody does anything brash while more research goes into picking the next Pope. |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Dec 5 21:18:56 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 5 20:35:45 2005. whatever the Westmoreland debate was.... <-----I was born in 1979 |
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Long Post: Diesel, Alternative Fuels and Kitchen Sink |
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Posted by tracksionmotor on Mon Dec 5 22:04:56 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by BIE on Mon Dec 5 20:32:04 2005. I use K1/D1/D2/H1/H2/LPG/gasoline tri-mix 97 0ctane. Road untaxed fuel is dyed red big time and some who use kero space heaters have become ill from the dye content...mix untaxed fuel with diesel and road police snag your ass with PINK fuel in your tank. Used to be you got about 42 gallons of gasoline or 21 gallons of diesel. I know my fuels....one nasty winter up near Blairstown....driveway was frozen over and Agway made no deliveries so I carried DI every weekend in my company car totalling about 500 gallons....one five gallon poly container broke open in my back seat!Ultra low sulfer fuel is not yet readily available hear in NY metro. You cannot use a catalyctic converter with a coal or oil burner....ULS is pretty clean and has a high BTU output and does cost more. I've been into alternative fuels for nearly thirty years building a passive solar house with a multifuel furnace and don't pay 'Waste Management' for garbage pick-up. Fuel substitution is a time expensive slightly money saving hobby. Sure, you can go down to the local Chinese to cut a free deal for used cooking oil, buy a filtration plant from advertiser in Mother Earth News and have almost free fuel but diesel engine won't start on straight veggy oil and requires constant maintainance. When your vehicle won't start, how much is a days pay worth? Mom drives a Jeep XJ (Cherokee to you non four-wheelers.) I'm waiting for a diesel/hybrid/4WD to come out. Sister Miriam of the Genisis Farm in Blairstown, NJ, has been pushing subsidised photovoltaic systems. Frelinghuysen School just hooked up. What you get (IF the rebates work) is a PV system with a synchronus invertor that generates power to use or go into the grid....there are no batteries to store electricity...good if you are retired and home all day....bad if you work because it only works during the day and the utility pays wholesale for electricity generated. Next lesson 'Bootleg Juice 101: How to make the electric meter spin backwards.' I will not answer inquiries intended to defraud utilities.' This post is only for educational, informative and entertainment purposes only. Electrical work is to be done only by qualified and licensed proff-fessionals and I am not to be held responsible for mis-application of my suggestions. Electrical work is hazardous in nature and requires knowledge/experience along with common sense and proper personal protection equipment. Seasons Greetings To All, RTT Peter |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 5 22:41:06 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by David H on Mon Dec 5 21:03:28 2005. Will I guess that there's no sense trying to confuse you with facts since your mind is already made up. |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Dec 5 22:47:40 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by Line 13 on Mon Dec 5 20:34:54 2005. Well, it was indirectly in response to the comment (a couple of posts before) that Without "Palestinians" the Arab world wouldn't have the excuse to hate Israel and deflect public attention from the real cause of their problems: themselves.Seems like there is also a topic in this thread about Muslims in general causing trouble, which is not the same thing. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 5 22:53:10 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 5 16:36:23 2005. First of all, he did say MOST of the conflicts. Try to keep up! |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Dec 5 23:24:53 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by mr_brian on Mon Dec 5 11:17:14 2005. Being physically fit and mentally fit are two things differently. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Dec 5 23:55:41 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Dec 5 19:13:45 2005. i did not know i had a name equiv.Shalom Adonai. (Salaam Allah in Hebrew) hebrew and arabic are somewhat close in many ways right ? now this is interesting and i am looking for more information k |
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Posted by joe c on Tue Dec 6 00:22:37 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by M15 to South Ferry on Mon Dec 5 16:35:39 2005. I say he's the worst president because all he care's about is the warin iraq.he's not even looking for Osma Bin Laden. til next time |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Dec 6 00:25:04 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by joe c on Tue Dec 6 00:22:37 2005. bush forgot about ''Osma Bin Laden'' and instead he went after IRAQand ''saddam hussien'' ........... ? |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Tue Dec 6 00:30:31 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Dec 5 23:55:41 2005. Ayup. Theoretically, the closest to "Allah" in Hebrew may be "YHWH". However, Judaism long had a ban on pronouncing that name because it was too sacred - so they substituted "Adonai" (the Lord/ the Eternal) and "HaShem" (literally, "The Name"). I grew up with God being referred to in prayers largely as "Adonai".Shalom is essentially Salaam - peace and a greeting. |
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Posted by joe c on Tue Dec 6 00:52:41 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Dec 6 00:25:04 2005. Yup.til next time |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Dec 6 02:32:36 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by joe c on Tue Dec 6 00:52:41 2005. you got itk!!! |
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Posted by Flushing Line 7 on Tue Dec 6 09:25:04 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by Line 13 on Mon Dec 5 20:20:57 2005. thanks for the correction....almost had it........LOL |
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Posted by BIE on Tue Dec 6 09:40:01 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by Line 13 on Mon Dec 5 20:20:57 2005. most other muslims HATE the Kurds because they believe in live and let live. |
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Posted by Clayton on Tue Dec 6 10:44:15 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 5 18:42:12 2005. OK, let me ask you a serious question then. Tossing all other political people aside (such as comparing actions of Clinton to Bush, or Kerry), do you think that our president is doing a fine job right now and that he should just continue on with whatever he is doing now? What changes (if any) do you think he needs to make? I've read your posts badmouthing Sheehan, Clinton, and Kerry, but I actually am truthfully curious about what you think (if anything) needs to change about Bush's agenda. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 6 12:41:47 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 5 20:35:45 2005. Revisionist bullcrap used to justify why we didn't win that war. There were millions of Vietnamese in the south who despised communism. |
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Posted by BIE on Tue Dec 6 12:56:47 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 6 12:41:47 2005. The war was UNWINNABLE. So is this one bu$h roped the troopps into. Deal with it, Kool-Aid boy |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Dec 6 14:26:45 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by BIE on Mon Dec 5 15:47:22 2005. Kennedy maintained in 1962 that a free and peaceful South Vietnam was crucial to the United States' interests in the Far East. |
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Posted by BIE on Tue Dec 6 14:36:35 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Dec 6 14:26:45 2005. yeah, true but at the time he was killed, he was planning to pull out, In fact, that is probably why he was killed. Fucking gutless hawks. |
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Posted by David H on Tue Dec 6 15:18:25 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by BIE on Tue Dec 6 14:36:35 2005. By NOW..we should know the deal about how much money folks make during war time.That was the point. |
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Posted by M15 to South Ferry on Tue Dec 6 17:42:41 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by BIE on Mon Dec 5 16:47:26 2005. And Kennedy followed by LBJ took us into that war. Nixon finally pulled us out of it. |
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Posted by BIE on Tue Dec 6 18:01:44 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by M15 to South Ferry on Tue Dec 6 17:42:41 2005. True. THE DEMOCRATS WERE BURNED BY VIETNAM, NOW IT'S THE TURN OF bu$h AND THE REPUBLICANS. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 6 22:46:23 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by BIE on Tue Dec 6 18:01:44 2005. The difference is that when we left Viet nam, the despots were still in office. Taliban are gone! Sadaam is gone! His sons are dead! Are you saying that the world is no better off with these two despotic regimes eliminated? The trouble is the liberal democrats don't have the balls to see the job through. |
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Posted by M15 to South Ferry on Tue Dec 6 23:05:25 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 6 22:46:23 2005. The one good thing is the sons being dead. They would've been far more evil than their dad. Them dying in the shoot out shows they had more cajones than their stuck in a hole dad. |
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Posted by M15 to South Ferry on Tue Dec 6 23:09:41 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by Flushing Line 7 on Mon Dec 5 16:34:14 2005. Well put. |
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Posted by M15 to South Ferry on Tue Dec 6 23:13:28 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by BIE on Tue Dec 6 12:56:47 2005. Why do you keep saying that? Of course Vietnam could've been won if not for probably Soviet-Communist China supplying North vietnam just like in Korea. At very least the US could've kept both the north and south vietnam as 2 parts. |
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Posted by BIE on Wed Dec 7 03:34:47 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 6 22:46:23 2005. tha Taliban (AKA mujiadeen) were proped up and given STINGER MISSLES by reagan's cia. One of their best tactical students was a young Saudi named osama bin laden. This is how reagan FOUNDED al qaida. America would have been better off if reagan let the ussr crush the Afghans like bugs. |
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Posted by BIE on Wed Dec 7 03:36:25 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by M15 to South Ferry on Tue Dec 6 23:09:41 2005. Who put saddam in power and sold him nerve gas? |
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Posted by BIE on Wed Dec 7 03:37:53 2005, in response to Re: IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER, posted by M15 to South Ferry on Tue Dec 6 23:13:28 2005. Because there is no hope for any STUPID "victory" strategy. |
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