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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Feb 26 19:50:31 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 19:45:42 2011.

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Outside of my Sicilian relatives (and friends of the family who are Sicilian) and my mom. Nobody in Michigan seems to know how to cook anything other than hot dogs, bacon, and burgers.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 26 19:51:43 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Train Dude on Sat Feb 26 18:32:31 2011.

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They weren't elected because they said they would rollback women's reproductive rights to the coathanger days. They weren't elected to bust unions. They said *nothing* about either during the 2010 campaign. Those who thought that suspect voted Democratic, I'm sure. Do recall how many of those individual Congressional contests were *close*. What they are doing is NOT what they were elected for.

The said they would balance the budget (balance meaning cuts where possible, and increased revenue...i.e.TAXES where necessary as well) and to CREATE JOBS. They are doing NEITHER.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 19:51:48 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Feb 26 19:50:31 2011.

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Even the corndogs suck. No offense ... Smallbany is the territorial line pretty much ... if you go west of here, the food instantly turns to shit until you get to Seattle. :)

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 19:52:04 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 18:29:19 2011.

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We know. But Americans like American Chinese Food.

If you eat at Meson Ole or Acapulco you aren't eating "real" Mexican food either, but...

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 19:53:35 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Feb 26 18:33:44 2011.

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The Southwest BLOWS us away with Mexican Food. It's great out there. We are getting better here, but until recently, you really couldn't find good Mexican food here.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Feb 26 19:54:14 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 19:44:26 2011.

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Can't do that either. In November, there was a ballot proposition to have a position of Lieutenant Governor in the State of Arizona (it would have replaced the current position of Secretary of State). The reason it was on the ballot was to prevent situations occurring like when Janet Napolitano (a Democrat) resigned and the new governor ended up being Jan Brewer (a Republican). The Lieutenant Governor and Governor would've had to have been from the same party. Well, anyways, that proposition failed and Arizona doesn't have a Lt. Guv.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 19:54:27 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 19:25:25 2011.

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Just because there is an abortion doesn't mean that the pregnancy was unwanted.

Run that by me again? I don't understand.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 26 19:54:50 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 19:46:24 2011.

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IAWTP

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 19:55:08 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 18:30:47 2011.

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One of the "Chef's Speciality" dishes in my local Chinese place is Szechuan Chicken. REALLY good, and nice and spicy. I have had it at other Chinese restaurants, but none get it quite as good.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Feb 26 19:55:27 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 19:41:38 2011.

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I never saw Dim Sum when I lived out East.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 19:56:21 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 18:43:01 2011.

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Well I don't think anyone considers Taco Bell "Mexican Food", it's in a different category, as it's fast food. That's like saying a McDonald's Cheeseburger is like a restaurant cheeseburger.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Feb 26 19:56:25 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 19:46:24 2011.

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No. It's designed to reduce the welfare rolls by making sure that people can actually afford the kids that they have.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 19:57:12 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 26 19:23:35 2011.

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Thanks for finding that! LOL @ the 0 Brand cigs.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 19:57:13 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Feb 26 18:46:35 2011.

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San Fran's Mexican was okay, and LA's is good too, but there's nothing like San Diego's Mexican food.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 19:58:39 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 19:23:48 2011.

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I think it's Oyster Sauce but regardless of what it is it's delicious.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Feb 26 19:58:39 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 19:54:27 2011.

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There are medically necessary abortions.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Feb 26 19:59:11 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 19:55:08 2011.

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My rule of thumb on Mexican and Asian foods is the following: It's not good unless it hurts.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 26 19:59:53 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Train Dude on Sat Feb 26 18:21:05 2011.

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When life begins, for the purpose of discussing US abortion law, is the point of fetal viability. To change this benchmark is to go against the 1st Amendment, which is intended (read the Federalist papers) to permit freedom *from* religion as well. That has been established by Roe, and is in concurrence with numerous state laws that preceded the decision. Everyone else will have to live with that. The legal designation does not mean that anyone has to change religious thought, if one is adhering to a religious view of the issue they probably won't seek an abortion to begin with.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 20:00:42 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 18:21:29 2011.

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Again, we had entire threads here when that was going on, and I called them out on the same crap. So I complained about the idiots in Albany, but i am not allowed to complain about the idiots in Wisconsin too?

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 20:00:57 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 19:40:15 2011.

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Oh they could have any state deport them back, if they indeed broke a law.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 20:02:23 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 19:54:27 2011.

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An abortion means that birth is unwanted. Sometimes women that wanted to get pregnant may change their minds for a variety of reasons. Some of those reasons might be pragmatic ones about how she might care for the baby.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 20:06:37 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 20:00:57 2011.

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The Wisconsin law specifically states that only Wisconsin state police can be the ones to bring them back.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 20:08:46 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Feb 26 19:56:25 2011.

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Yeah, that's what it is. :rollseyes:

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 20:08:52 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Feb 26 19:54:14 2011.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 20:09:59 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 19:55:08 2011.

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Yep ... so is sesame, and they make a Tso to die for. Literally. :)

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 20:10:30 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Feb 26 19:55:27 2011.

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It is pretty rare, unless it's that Chung King Industrial crap out of Brooklyn.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 20:11:11 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 19:56:21 2011.

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To many, it's the real deal. :)

Haute Cuisine in the Dakotas. Heh.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 20:11:53 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 19:14:04 2011.

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They are most certainly NOT. That's why they are hiding out at hotels in Illinois, so the Wisconsin Troopers can't get them.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 20:13:19 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 19:57:12 2011.

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That's because Brand X sued ... center square, Alex ... :)

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 20:13:55 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 20:02:23 2011.

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I gotcha.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 26 20:14:09 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 07:12:43 2011.

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Wrong. What they did was the boldest move possible within the Constitutional government model, and carrying the greatest risk. That they are receiving global support (read about the Egyptians calling in and sending pizza to the Madison protesters in the NYT?) shows how right they are to be doing it. Once the bill's time expires, or possibly it is finally withdrawn (as it should be....balance their budget yes...th eunions are willing totak e apart in that.... NO to union busting....they'll be back. The current bunch didn't run on union busting and they weren't elected to do that.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 20:16:56 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Feb 26 19:09:56 2011.

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That's not necessarily true, but the waiting lists are long for white babies. Unfortunately, sadly, or whatever you want to fill in here, but white babies are harder to come by for adoption than black babies. Last I checked I think there was about 7 times more scarcity of white babies than black babies.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 20:19:38 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 19:46:24 2011.

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Ehhh, I think more an economic caste system rather than ethnic.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 20:19:58 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Feb 26 19:44:02 2011.

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The unfortunate thing is that responsible people only have the amount of kids they can afford, and irresponsible people have more kids than they can afford, and then wind up going on assistance. (All races). It seems the poorer people are, the more kids they have. You are right, the people that can actually afford to have kids usually have less kids.
That all said, your first sentence may seem to make sense, but in a free country, you can't do something like that. It borders on communism.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 20:20:20 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 20:13:19 2011.

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Hahaha, I recall Brand X getting lambasted a lot by Oxydol.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 20:20:55 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 20:08:46 2011.

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There are plenty of poor whites that have too many kids too. It seems the poorer the people, and less able to take care of their kids, the more kids they have.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 20:21:45 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 20:06:37 2011.

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Yeah, that's the nature of deportation. The seeking cops can come pick them up.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 20:23:01 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 20:19:38 2011.

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I agree that it sounds that way since race was never mentioned, but when you look at online posts regarding stuff like that there's always a significant racial component.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 20:23:28 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Feb 26 19:58:39 2011.

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Of course, but the discussion is about non-essential abortions.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 20:24:13 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 20:00:42 2011.

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This isn't about you at all ... it's about the general stupidity of it all. From MY standpoint, the stupidity that this is unprecedented and cowardly when all the other stuff was just fine. You point out the hypocrisy of the left, I point out the hypocrisy of the right. It's all good, I call it "fair and balanced."



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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 20:24:36 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 18:56:37 2011.

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That's exactly my stance. I believe people should be able to decide for themselves, it's not the government's business.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 20:25:29 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 20:23:01 2011.

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True, many associate brown with welfare, as if there are no poor white people who get pregnant.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 20:25:49 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 20:06:37 2011.

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Yeah, little issue of jurisdiction. FBI can round them up though if they "excaped" justice ... :)

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 20:26:19 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 20:20:55 2011.

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It probably more correlates with education than income. At least that's my guess.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 20:26:31 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 19:04:16 2011.

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This coat hanger thing is getting tiring. Just because I, or Easy or others say that we don't necessarily think people should get abortions, we all also said that it should be legal for those that want to get them. Just because I feel it's wrong, doesn't mean that I feel it's any of my business to inflict that view on others, nor is it any of the government's business.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 26 20:28:22 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 20:25:49 2011.

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US Marshals actually.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 20:28:30 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 20:25:29 2011.

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I've had two different white people tell me that black women have too many kids and that sterilization should be offered. One conservative and the other liberal. I think that it must be a common opinion.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 26 20:30:37 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Feb 26 19:31:33 2011.

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Domino's, Hungry Howie's, and Little Caesar's



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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 20:30:48 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 19:09:17 2011.

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Cure for what? I said I am pro choice. But I am not allowed to say that that little girl wouldn't have been a little girl if the fetus was aborted? I am not allowed to say that I feel a fetus is a human life, but then get accused of supporting people not being able to abort if they were raped or insest? Where did THAT come from? Where did I say otherwise? I was also accused of potentially attacking abortion clinics because I said a fetus is a life (even though I said I am pro choice). Where the F does that come from?

I have every right to be pissed off at the insane rhetoric that was slammed in that post at me, and totally unjustified, as I said all the opposite of what he accused me of. I only had "the nerve" to say I feel a fetus is a life. Oh the horror.

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Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 20:30:56 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 20:20:20 2011.

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It was the most popular meme at Young & Rubicam when I was there, BBD&O beat that brand plenty too. The old television rules stated that you could not name a competitive brand in an advertisement, but you could at least use a prop that resembled the brand, but not too closely. Back then you weren't allowed to use cement blocks or intestinal tract depictions either which made our job pretty difficult. :)

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