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Egypt Revolts!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:01:55 2011

Live footage right now on MSNBC, CNN of extraordinary events unfolding in Egypt today. The people are on the streets in open revolt against President Mubarak. The White House says the uprising is an issue "to be resolved by the Egyptian people."

The pictures coming out of Egypt (mostly via Al Jazeera, which is scooping EBERYBODY on this today) are spellbinding.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:06:36 2011, in response to Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:01:55 2011.

Hillary Clinton: "The Egyptian government has to understand that violence will not make thse grievances go away."

Following the uprising in Tunisia, people all over the North African region are becoming restive, and tired of historically repressive regimes in countries like Egypt, Yemen, and Tunisia.

In a related development, the House of Saud has released a statement saying it is watching developments in Egypt and Tunisis "with great concern". On that, you can bet real money.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 28 16:09:05 2011, in response to Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:01:55 2011.

Egyptian authorities need to mow down these Islamist bandits.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by BMTLines on Fri Jan 28 16:09:51 2011, in response to Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:01:55 2011.

Be careful what you wish for. An Islamic Republic of Egypt allied with IRAN is not necessarily a good thing

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 28 16:10:21 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by BMTLines on Fri Jan 28 16:09:51 2011.

Exactly.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:11:36 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 28 16:09:05 2011.

I beg to differ. Read a bit about how nearly half of all Egyptians live on less than $2 a day, and how Mubarak has been one of the most repressive rulers in Egypt's history. Read about how corruption runs rampant in Egyptian government. IMHO, the Egyptian people have a very legitimate set of grievances.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:13:46 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by BMTLines on Fri Jan 28 16:09:51 2011.

I'm not saying an Egyptian revolution is a good thing, but the Egyptians are desperate to improve their lot. I can understand why this revolt is happening.

The Middle East and North Africa are moving and changing in a BIG way.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 28 16:14:02 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:11:36 2011.

where did you read it?

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:19:11 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 28 16:14:02 2011.

MSNBC and CNN both reported these facts minutes ago. There are plenty of written accounts, including this article from the Jerusalem Post.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 28 16:28:46 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 28 16:09:05 2011.

I totally disagree. The government there has been very oppressive.
The country is very corrupt.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by BMTLines on Fri Jan 28 16:31:24 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 28 16:28:46 2011.

The Shah of Iran was oppressive too but look what replaced him. Do we really want Egypt to follow that route?

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 28 16:33:35 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 28 16:28:46 2011.

well, they consider us repressive too.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 28 16:35:26 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:11:36 2011.

Ther'll still be poor if the Islamists taker over.
The world cannot afford a country as important as Egypt to be ruled by nutbags.
Mubarak may be a corrupt asshole but at least he's a sane and secular corrupt asshole.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 28 16:35:38 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by BMTLines on Fri Jan 28 16:31:24 2011.

Unfortunately, this is what you get when country's turn Islamic.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 28 16:36:38 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 28 16:35:26 2011.

I agree with that too, but the current government caused this too, as they were terribly oppressive. That said, this is what happens when Islam comes to countries.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 28 16:37:54 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by BMTLines on Fri Jan 28 16:31:24 2011.

Exactly.
You know what's going on.
Others think these protesteing "activists" are pro-democracy liberals. They think they are like the recent Iranian protesters when they are actually what Ahmadinejad was in 1979.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 28 16:39:09 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 28 16:35:38 2011.

And you want Egypt to turn Islamic too?
You want what happened to Iran and Gaza to happen to Egypt?

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:41:09 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 28 16:35:26 2011.

Mobarak and his government should have thought of all this before they decided to turn Egypt into their own personal ATM.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 28 16:46:09 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:41:09 2011.

so you do condone the violence!

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 28 16:48:41 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 28 16:36:38 2011.

I agree with that too, but the current government caused this too, as they were terribly oppressive.

They HAVE to be oppressive to ward off the hateful nutbags. Look at what happened to the Palestinian Authority when Abbas allowed free elections. Hamas won!! Then they overran his forces in Gaza.
Arafat was mowing them down in Gaza back in the 90's. He knew what was up and kept them down.
I'll take the secular and pragmatic tyrant over these crazies any day.
Egypt has been at peace with Israel for a third of a century and Christians have largely been able to practice their religion freely thanks to people like Sadat and Mubarak to the chagrin of these "protesters".
He needs to smash them and execute the main instigators. Egypt is not America or Europe. There will not be any "democracy" if Mubarak falls.
The only thing these "rage boys": understand is a fist in their face and a bullet through their head. I don't say this out of meanness or bloodthirstiness. It's just the way it is.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by RockParkMan on Fri Jan 28 16:54:13 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 28 16:48:41 2011.

That's why GWB knocked Saddam off. he was getting in the way of Al Qaeda.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:59:43 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 28 16:46:09 2011.

Where did I say I "condoned" the violence? I am merely pointing out that Mubarak is facing an uprising of his own making. I didn't say violence was the right way for the Egyptian people to air their grievances, but I do understand why it is happening.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jan 28 17:10:34 2011, in response to Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:01:55 2011.

watching Al Jazeera now

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jan 28 17:11:23 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:59:43 2011.

agreed

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 28 17:12:44 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:59:43 2011.

you are siding with the militants.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 28 17:13:08 2011, in response to Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:01:55 2011.

Um, Mubarek was the only force holding back the really insane mofos. All we need is the Muslim Brotherhood in charge of Egypt. Countdown to war with Israel begins in 3, 2 ...

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by RockParkMan on Fri Jan 28 17:15:58 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 28 17:13:08 2011.

True. BO better figure out how to help Mubarak CRUSH this revolt.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 17:16:07 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 28 17:12:44 2011.

I don't agree with all of their methods, but yes, I am siding with the Egyptian people on this.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 28 17:17:14 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 17:16:07 2011.

ok you condone the violence.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 17:17:14 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 28 17:13:08 2011.

Mubarak knows this full well, and could have avoided the present situation by governing his country fairly and honestly, instead of looting it.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 17:18:11 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 28 17:17:14 2011.

What part of "I don't agree with their methods" did you fail to comprehend?

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 28 17:21:18 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 17:17:14 2011.

Mubarak knows this full well, and could have avoided the present situation by governing his country fairly and honestly, instead of looting it.

But he did. Oh well.
He needs to crush these vermin anyway.
Perhaps his successor will run a cleaner government in the future but his government must not be allowed to fall to these freaks.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 28 17:23:15 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 28 17:21:18 2011.

Yes, Mubarak was always the problem, now with him out of the way it means a glorious, prosperous and peaceful future for the great nation of Egypt. They got pyramids, baby!

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by vfrt on Fri Jan 28 17:25:04 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 28 17:21:18 2011.

With the Muslim Brotherhood getting involved, Iran might be behind the uprising. Petroleum prices spiked today all over the world.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jan 28 17:26:31 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by vfrt on Fri Jan 28 17:25:04 2011.

you said
Petroleum prices spiked today all over the world.
how about making and unsing a new fuel ?



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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 17:27:18 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 28 17:21:18 2011.

These "freaks" are the ordinary people of Egypt. I do, however, have a sneaking suspicion Ahmadinejad may be encouraging this from Iran.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by BMTLines on Fri Jan 28 17:29:14 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 28 17:13:08 2011.

Maybe not all out war but you can bet that any Islamist regime will open the borders (and the arms supply lines) to Gaza

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 28 17:30:24 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 17:27:18 2011.

The Muslim Brotherhood doesn't need encouragement from Shiite Iran.
They are already powerful and influential amongst the Egypt rabble.
They even killed the great Anwar Sadat.
That's why Mubarak needs to massacre them. If anything he's been too easy on them.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 17:32:28 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 28 17:30:24 2011.

Mubarak just did a PC in which he asked his entire cabinet to resign, but did not offer to step down himself. In a democracy, that is a bad sign.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by RockParkMan on Fri Jan 28 17:33:04 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by BMTLines on Fri Jan 28 17:29:14 2011.

Which means What?...






























WAR!!!

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 28 17:33:57 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 28 17:23:15 2011.

I guess if it becomes an Islamic country, they will blow them up liek the Muslims blew up the two large ancient Buddhas in Afghanistan.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 28 17:35:30 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by RockParkMan on Fri Jan 28 17:15:58 2011.

BO doesn't know how to deal with any international politics, much less a crisis.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 28 17:37:05 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 28 17:33:57 2011.

nahhh...the Muslim Brotherhood aren't as retarded as the Taliban.

They know how to play the game and are lead by educated people.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Jan 28 17:38:14 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 28 17:17:14 2011.

Still want to get the people of Boston to compensate the East India Company for its tea, eh?

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Jan 28 17:39:31 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:06:36 2011.

In a related development, the House of Saud has released a statement saying it is watching developments in Egypt and Tunisia "with great concern". On that, you can bet real money.

I'll bet there are some private jets at Riyadh airport, all fueled up and ready to fly the royal family out of the country at a moment's notice.

My blog


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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Jan 28 17:40:48 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by RockParkMan on Fri Jan 28 17:15:58 2011.

Clue: he can't. No-one can.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 17:42:27 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Jan 28 17:39:31 2011.

AP Middle East Bureau is saying the Saudis are supposed to be going ape over this...they think the Saudi people, emboldened by recent events in Tunisia and Egypt, might revolt against them. The price of light, sweet crude is going up, up, up in the meantime. This could have big effects on us here at home real soon.

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jan 28 17:43:03 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 17:42:27 2011.

time to make a new fuel

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Jan 28 17:43:19 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:13:46 2011.

The Middle East and North Africa are moving and changing in a BIG way.

Which might culminate in hundreds of people in America dying in gunfights at gas stations over the last tankfuls of $20-per-gallon gasoline :)

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Re: Egypt Revolts!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 17:44:09 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Jan 28 17:43:19 2011.

Yes. March crude was skyrocketing a little while ago.

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