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Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 22 21:29:18 2010, in response to Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 22 21:21:07 2010. Then if that's the case, you monitor the existing mosque and build a case for nuisance abatement. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jul 22 21:31:32 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by BMTLines on Thu Jul 22 20:56:11 2010. The moment was over when you made your ignorant comparison about the mosque to a japanese shrine to pearl harbor. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 22 21:36:42 2010, in response to Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 22 21:29:18 2010. Then if that's the case, you monitor the existing mosque and build a case for nuisance abatement. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 22 21:38:44 2010, in response to Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 22 21:29:18 2010. Wherever he opened a mosque it would be monitored. I don't know about nuisance abatement. That seems contradictory to identifying and catching terrorists.I don't necessarily advocate them not being allowed to open a mosque near ground zero as this is the USA after all. But I think that it is more a political statement than a religious one. They want to energize supporters of 9/11 and stick their fingers in the eyes of those that don't. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jul 22 21:49:08 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 22 20:45:20 2010. You could have answered his post without a personal attack. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 22 21:50:14 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 22 21:22:17 2010. Cool. And his death resulted in retaliation as I predict would happen in the future, so don't expect another Muslim terrorist to die by death penalty.The fact that there was retaliation only strengthens my argument. Smazzatura, dirtbag filth garbage who somehow survived Iraq while good Americans died. What a shame. |
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Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 22 21:59:11 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 22 20:45:20 2010. Smazzatura,The king of dirtbag garbage, resentful of Italians who got out of neighborhoods like Long Island City. You're a permanent member of the dirtbag class, and lash out regularly. You can't compare the crimes of Islam to some nut case Catholics who want to stop abortions. Muslims want to live in Christian nations. Christians don't want to live in Muslim nations. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Thu Jul 22 22:02:49 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jul 22 21:31:32 2010. FUCK YOU ASSHOLEFUCK YOU ASSHOLEFUCK YOU ASSHOLEFUCK YOU ASSHOLEFUCK YOU ASSHOLEFUCK YOU ASSHOLEFUCK YOU ASSHOLEFUCK YOU ASSHOLEFUCK YOU ASSHOLEFUCK YOU ASSHOLEFUCK YOU ASSHOLEFUCK YOU ASSHOLEFUCK YOU ASSHOLEFUCK YOU ASSHOLEFUCK YOU ASSHOLEFUCK YOU ASSHOLEFUCK YOU ASSHOLEFUCK YOU ASSHOLEFUCK YOU ASSHOLEFUCK YOU ASSHOLE |
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Posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 22 22:21:08 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 22 20:23:00 2010. It is also possible the guy you heard on the radio was making it up in order to advance his own interests. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 22 22:23:41 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 22 22:21:08 2010. Watch the video Easy posted. Judge for yourself. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 22 22:26:19 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 22 22:21:08 2010. True. When I google "Walid Shoebat" I see that "Walid Shoebat fraud" is suggested. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 22 22:32:19 2010, in response to Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 22 21:36:42 2010. Haha, either side of the argument has no idea WTF. |
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Posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 22 22:33:48 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 22 22:23:41 2010. I watched till 2:17 when he mentioned that sharia has been established in Great Britten at that point it became clear he’s a nut and a stopped watching. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 22 22:39:22 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 22 22:33:48 2010. Sharia courts operating in Britain |
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Posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 22 22:39:58 2010, in response to Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 22 21:36:42 2010. Never hire AMoreira81 as your lawyer! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 22 22:42:08 2010, in response to Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jul 22 17:46:28 2010. False. The group involved has pushed Shariah law. They want Shariah Law to be more prominent in the US. The location is also no accident.This is not some religious group that is looking for a place where old ladies can play some bridge over coffee and cake. Cordoba the name is also no accident. Cordoba, the seat of the caliphate established in what is now Spain after the Islamic invasion from North Africa hundreds of years ago. Spain was occupied at that time and is considered by Islamic theorists to have been an inevitable step in the manifest destiny of Islam, and reversal of the triumph of the infidels over Islam. The mosque at Cordoba was built on the foundation of a Christian cathedral, and when Europeans retook Cordoba they turned mosque back into a cathedral. The name "Cordoba" is no accident. |
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Posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 22 22:42:46 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 22 22:39:22 2010. A family law court that people have to opt into it’s not a threat to anyone. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 22 22:47:04 2010, in response to My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jul 22 17:13:58 2010. It's privately owned land, as long as it's legally zoned for a paticullar use, who are we to stop them.The real problem is that even though we have separation of church and state in this country, religious institutions can do whatever they want in regards to zoning. They don't need to follow zoning laws. (I don't mean building codes, I mean other zoning laws. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 22 22:48:11 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 22 22:42:46 2010. We're going to have to disagree on that. I support our system where the same laws apply to everyone. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 22 22:49:12 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 22 22:47:04 2010. That explains why we have so many storefront churches. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 22 22:52:31 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 22 20:37:45 2010. Fine by me.... |
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Posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 22 22:52:35 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 22 22:48:11 2010. So do you oppose the use of arbitration to settle disputes because that’s all this is. |
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Posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 22 22:55:03 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 22 22:48:11 2010. And Jews have had similar courts in Britain and Canada for hundreds of years. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 22 22:57:33 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 22 22:52:35 2010. Actually I don't. I see having to agree to arbitration as giving up my rights for nothing in return. Especially as arbitration is regarded as favoring corporations. But even arbitration is based on our laws, not religious laws. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 22 22:58:25 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 22 22:55:03 2010. Who gives a damn what Britain and Canada have done for hundreds of years. This isn't Canada or Britain. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 22 23:00:12 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 22 22:55:03 2010. This isn't about Muslim vs Jews this is about whether or not you were correct about there not being Sharia courts in Great Britain. |
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Posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 22 23:08:16 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 22 22:57:33 2010. Ok your consistent the issue is there is a lot of fear mongering going on about these “Sharia courts” |
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Posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 22 23:10:48 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 22 22:58:25 2010. The point is that this sharia court business is nothing but alarmism. |
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Posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 22 23:12:09 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 22 23:00:12 2010. He was implying that sharia law has being imposed on everyone in Britain not being used in arbitration. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 22 23:20:45 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 22 23:12:09 2010. Obviously he was not claiming that. He may or not be a huckster but he's not an idiot. He was saying that they are "infiltrating" Britain peacefully. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 22 23:28:04 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 22 23:10:48 2010. He was only clarifying that Sharia law is what the guy building the mosque would like to see not that he thinks that it will come to that. It's only alarmism if it's not true. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 22 23:59:50 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 22 22:52:31 2010. cool. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jul 23 00:00:55 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jul 22 21:49:08 2010. You could have answered his post without a personal attack.believe me, I couldn't. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Fri Jul 23 00:04:54 2010, in response to Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 22 22:42:08 2010. The Cordoba word have significance if it were taking over a church, the location has no meaning because you cant even see the WTC site from the proposed site? First you said it was the imam now its the group... next thing you'll say its the entire religion. If this place was as dark as a place you say then why are they letting anyone including people like you in there? Shits and giggles? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jul 23 00:09:24 2010, in response to Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 22 22:39:58 2010. I wish AMoreira would write legal thrillers that could be made into the movies. They would become their own genre. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jul 23 00:12:49 2010, in response to Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 22 22:32:19 2010. Some of the arguments on this issue I've heard here from both sides are extravagant to say the least.You may have noticed that beyond some abstract hypotheticals, I've haven't taken a position on this mosque. It's better to stay away sometimes. It's like AirTrain. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Jul 23 00:20:17 2010, in response to Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jul 23 00:12:49 2010. I think that the mosque is obviously being built to make a political statement, but I don't see how you stop it. I think that you let them build it and then build something that they would find offensive right next to it. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jul 23 00:20:26 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 22 18:30:51 2010. As the libertarian in me says---tough! |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jul 23 00:21:57 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 22 21:50:14 2010. And his death resulted in retaliation as I predict would happen in the future, so don't expect another Muslim terrorist to die by death penalty. The fact that there was retaliation only strengthens my argument.What retaliation? Can you even READ? He was executed in November 2002! |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jul 23 00:23:10 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 22 22:47:04 2010. In this case, however, zoning law issues are moot. If landmarking is denied, the mosque can proceed once the demolition permits are issued and a valid architecture plan is approved by the Buildings Department.This would be an "as of right development", meaning that all zoning requirements are already met. Of course, what those opposing the mosque believe is that if the building is landmarked, it may end up being destroyed anyway---by fire. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jul 23 00:23:21 2010, in response to Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by Easy on Fri Jul 23 00:20:17 2010. I think that you let them build it and then build something that they would find offensive right next to it.It's very expensive to build something there just to spite them. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jul 23 00:30:26 2010, in response to Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jul 23 00:12:49 2010. You may have noticed that beyond some abstract hypotheticals, I've haven't taken a position on this mosque. No one noticed because no one gives a fuck. Dirtbag with an over exaggerated sense of his own self importance. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jul 23 00:42:26 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 22 20:23:00 2010. So I should be believe a real terrorist over the Manhattan imam?That would be like me wanting to start a Christian church and Eric Rudolph going on TV saying that I'm evil. Anyway, Shoebat is poseur anyway. He was never even a terrorist. He's a tool and a conman. Either way, he's not believable. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jul 23 00:43:45 2010, in response to Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jul 23 00:23:21 2010. Addition: This former NYC firefighter thinks he has legal standing to file a lawsuit to stop the mosque; I disagree. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jul 23 00:47:13 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 22 20:23:00 2010. If that is the case, then you would think people would have been monitoring the TriBeCa mosque that is used now for such evidence in an attempt to garner standing. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Jul 23 00:52:38 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jul 23 00:42:26 2010. I don't really know much about either of them but what little I know has me skeptical of each. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Jul 23 00:55:03 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jul 23 00:47:13 2010. There's been plenty of evidence that many mosques and Muslim groups have been infiltrated. Other than that I have no idea what you're talking about. Standing for what? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jul 23 00:59:24 2010, in response to Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jul 23 00:43:45 2010. I disagree too. It smells of desperation. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jul 23 01:00:35 2010, in response to Re: My views on the Mosque Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by Easy on Fri Jul 23 00:55:03 2010. Standing to claim personal harm if the mosque is built---which would be required for any lawsuit to proceed. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Jul 23 01:01:50 2010, in response to Re: NY gove candidate Paladino: I would use eminent domain to block mosque, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jul 23 00:23:21 2010. I mean something like a synagogue or memorial with a prominent Christian cross. They claim to want to bring people together. Let's see if they mean it. If it doesn't annoy them then I accept them being there. |
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