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Posted by Easy on Thu Dec 31 08:39:02 2009, in response to Re: 2009 List Of Thinkers and Reasonable People, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Dec 31 07:49:25 2009. You've shown that you tend to notice the good things about conservatives and the bad with liberals.Personally I haven't noticed a huge difference and I probably wouldn't unless I was trying to look for it and even then it would be difficult. My guess would be that in my experience they are more or less the same except that the conservatives that I know go to church more often so probably donate more and more often. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Dec 31 09:10:31 2009, in response to Re: 2009 List Of Thinkers and Reasonable People, posted by Easy on Thu Dec 31 08:39:02 2009. Oddly, my family members who donate all the time, don't go to church.Technically, a church donation should not be considered charity, but whatever. I'll bet groups that raise money for the widows of fallen police officers target conservatives, while those international "feed the children" groups target libs. Have you noticed all those tv ads and click ads for abused animals? They're everywhere this year. I wonder who gives to those groups? |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Dec 31 09:58:51 2009, in response to Re: 2009 List Of Thinkers and Reasonable People, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Dec 31 07:25:33 2009. A sampling is just a sample. It doesn't prove beyond the shadow of doubt that EVERYONE is like said sample.Face it, you can't prove it. There will be anecdotal evidence, sure, and claims made but when the sun goes down you can't prove beyond the pale that conservatives are more generous than liberals are. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Dec 31 09:59:34 2009, in response to Re: 2009 List Of Libs, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Dec 31 07:34:24 2009. Granted the more "liberal" a place is, the more litter seems to be around, as well as graffiti, etc....but that is probably in no means scientific.I don't know, isn't "real America" the part of the country that disposed of their old vehicles and appliances in the back yard? |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Dec 31 10:03:07 2009, in response to Re: 2009 List Of Thinkers and Reasonable People, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Dec 31 07:49:25 2009. LOL, in my general experience I've found your posts to be one sided in support of the conservatives and against the liberals. This one's no different :Dyour pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Dec 31 10:17:02 2009, in response to Re: 2009 Center-rightists and partial Libertarians, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Dec 31 08:08:08 2009. I'm the converse of that. I vote pro business but can't vote GOP with the Christian-fanatic-Germany-1933 wing attached.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Dec 31 10:17:56 2009, in response to Re: 2009 Center-rightists and partial Libertarians, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Dec 29 21:28:36 2009. Stand up and benefit, aqualung.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Dec 31 10:26:12 2009, in response to Re: 2009 Center-rightists and partial Libertarians, posted by AlM on Thu Dec 31 07:43:31 2009. An OTChatter posted that also.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Dec 31 10:26:56 2009, in response to Re: 2009 List Of Libs, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Dec 31 09:59:34 2009. Yes, often times, but it's THEIR back yard....that's not "litter". |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Dec 31 10:28:16 2009, in response to Re: 2009 List Of Libs, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 29 23:08:40 2009. T*O*O*T*Hyour pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Dec 31 10:28:53 2009, in response to Re: 2009 Center-rightists and partial Libertarians, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Dec 31 08:08:08 2009. Perhaps, but that said, the Republican party has shifted too far right, so where does that leave us? The Democrats cater to the left wing nuts, and the Republicans cater to the right wing nuts.... Where is a just left of center or a just right of center person go. Independent is the best I can do. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Dec 31 10:47:56 2009, in response to Re: 2009 List Of Thinkers and Reasonable People, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Dec 31 04:58:46 2009. Funny, because if you google "Conservative more........" it fills in the rest with "generous than liberals".When you google "Liberals more............." it fills in "intelligent than conservatives. OK, this is funny. I just tried it but mistakenly put "are" instead of "more."    |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Dec 31 10:53:13 2009, in response to Re: 2009 Center-rightists and partial Libertarians, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Dec 31 07:52:47 2009. I am also dead against the cutting of the free Metrocard program. Dead against.I'm completely for it. Student transportation is paid for virtually everywhere, be it directly or through local property taxes. I'd be OK with a reduced fare. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Dec 31 11:05:22 2009, in response to Re: 2009 Center-rightists and partial Libertarians, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Dec 31 10:53:13 2009. It should be the same price for everybody. All giving discounts to your favorite disadvantaged groups achieves is higher prices for every single other disadvantaged group. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Dec 31 11:08:39 2009, in response to Re: 2009 Center-rightists and partial Libertarians, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Dec 31 11:05:22 2009. It should be the same price for everybody. All giving discounts to your favorite disadvantaged groups achieves is higher prices for every single other disadvantaged group.Sure, but politics demand concessions sometimes. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Dec 31 11:09:31 2009, in response to Re: 2009 List Of Thinkers and Reasonable People, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Thu Dec 31 00:55:06 2009. In 2005 VP Cheney's income was $8,819,006. He donated $6,869,655, 77% of his income.I wonder how much of that went on tax avoidance. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Dec 31 11:12:04 2009, in response to Re: 2009 Center-rightists and partial Libertarians, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Dec 31 11:08:39 2009. Fine, so make it free at the point of service for everyone: pay for transit by increasing the taxes on the unimproved value of land and on long-haul aviation. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Dec 31 11:15:45 2009, in response to Re: 2009 Center-rightists and partial Libertarians, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Dec 31 11:05:22 2009. I wanna see first-class subway cars. With flippable seats and all. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Dec 31 11:40:30 2009, in response to Re: 2009 List Of Thinkers and Reasonable People, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Dec 31 11:09:31 2009. Much of it had to be. He was going to be held on charges WRT ethics violations unless he gave away all his Halliburton options. That's *why* it's such a large number. Yes, he claimed it all as deductions as well.This has nothing to do with any magnanimity on his part. It was a legal settlement. He HAD to. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Dec 31 14:12:04 2009, in response to Re: 2009 List Of Thinkers and Reasonable People, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Dec 31 10:47:56 2009. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! It shows you just how much the fringes of either side seem to control both parties. Sad, but true.BTW, good choice to use Firefox! I switched to that a year ago, and never looked back! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Dec 31 14:13:23 2009, in response to Re: 2009 Center-rightists and partial Libertarians, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Dec 31 10:53:13 2009. I guess I'm a Liberal on this issue, as I don't agree. Students should ride free, at least till 12th grade. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Dec 31 14:14:32 2009, in response to Re: 2009 Center-rightists and partial Libertarians, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Dec 31 11:05:22 2009. I have no problems with free fare for students, and reduced fare for seniors. I may stop there, short of saying other "disadvantaged groups". |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Dec 31 14:19:05 2009, in response to Re: 2009 Center-rightists and partial Libertarians, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Dec 31 14:14:32 2009. I have no problems with free fare for studentsI do. I never rode a school bus or got a free ride on the public buses when I went to school (although I admit I was but 1.2 miles from my HS). |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Dec 31 14:53:31 2009, in response to Re: 2009 Center-rightists and partial Libertarians, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Dec 31 14:19:05 2009. It must depend on distance, I didn't say that, but yes, on distance. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Dec 31 15:13:17 2009, in response to Re: 2009 List Of Thinkers and Reasonable People, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Dec 31 10:47:56 2009. Gotta love giggles ... I'm surprised the first thing that popped up wasn't "compare prices on ..." :) |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Dec 31 17:03:30 2009, in response to Re: 2009 List Of Neo-Right Wingers, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Dec 29 13:02:40 2009. unlike lunch, you did a nice big of hate mongering. Trying to get on the fbi list for racism or nazism in general? |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Dec 31 17:04:29 2009, in response to 2009 List Of Libs, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Dec 28 21:50:47 2009. I thought spider-pig was an almost libertian with some leftist leanings.Anyway, it should definately be in order |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Dec 31 20:57:29 2009, in response to Re: 2009 List Of Libs, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 30 04:12:44 2009. That's right. No pedometer this year.Whatcha gonna do ?  Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jan 1 01:21:56 2010, in response to Re: 2009 List Of Thinkers and Reasonable People, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 31 02:51:32 2009. What I mean are like those people who call conservative radio shows and will proclaim that they are "conservative Republicans" and simply will follow ever poltical viewpoint in that belief even though deep inside they may beleive otherwise on some viewpoints ex.abortion. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 1 04:15:10 2010, in response to Re: 2009 Center-rightists and partial Libertarians, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Dec 31 07:30:25 2009. Lunch is a minor cost item when it comes to the costs of schooling, so it would probably be more efficient to just give everyone free lunch. After all, even billionaires are entitled to free public education for their children. Save the indignation for something more expensive like welfare fraud. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 1 04:16:28 2010, in response to Re: 2009 Center-rightists and partial Libertarians, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Dec 31 11:05:22 2009. But this isn't a disadvantaged group: Students were entitled to free transportation regardless of income. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 1 04:16:52 2010, in response to Re: 2009 Center-rightists and partial Libertarians, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Dec 31 14:53:31 2009. It does depend on distance. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 1 04:17:57 2010, in response to Re: 2009 Center-rightists and partial Libertarians, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Dec 31 14:19:05 2009. And I lived 11.2 miles from my high school. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 1 04:18:33 2010, in response to Re: 2009 Center-rightists and partial Libertarians, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Dec 31 07:35:15 2009. The free MetroCards are not at all based on income, so the abuses there would be different. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 1 04:20:13 2010, in response to Re: 2009 Center-rightists and partial Libertarians, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Dec 31 08:08:08 2009. I remember him discussing how he had conservative views back in high school or something, so I don't think he's an alienated liberal. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 1 04:34:31 2010, in response to Re: 2009 Center-rightists and partial Libertarians, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 1 04:15:10 2010. Feed one feed all may not be so bad. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jan 1 05:04:24 2010, in response to Re: 2009 List Of Thinkers and Reasonable People, posted by Fred G on Thu Dec 31 04:38:26 2009. And your proof is so convincing! |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jan 1 05:05:05 2010, in response to Re: 2009 List Of Thinkers and Reasonable People, posted by bingbong on Thu Dec 31 11:40:30 2009. PROOF? |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jan 1 05:07:27 2010, in response to Re: 2009 List Of Thinkers and Reasonable People, posted by Fred G on Thu Dec 31 04:39:17 2009. A very clear and concise retort. Proof presented et all.I am very convinced! |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jan 1 05:11:12 2010, in response to Re: 2009 List Of Thinkers and Reasonable People, posted by Fred G on Thu Dec 31 05:50:28 2009. Thats sounds exactly how Marist Poll get thier information.They ask every human in the United States for thier opinion and they go from there! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 1 09:15:35 2010, in response to Re: 2009 Center-rightists and partial Libertarians, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 1 04:16:28 2010. Correct. The only factor I believe was distance, at least it was when I went to school. Income was irrelevant, so it wasn't for "disadvantaged" kids, it was for all kids, provided the distance was correct. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 1 09:16:16 2010, in response to Re: 2009 Center-rightists and partial Libertarians, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 1 04:16:52 2010. I know. I was just saying I didn't mention that in my post. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 1 09:19:43 2010, in response to Re: 2009 Center-rightists and partial Libertarians, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 1 04:18:33 2010. We used to have kids that weren't entitled to use the school passes (we didnt have metrocards, just passes, this was still int he days of tokens), but they didn't have them because they lived too close to the school. But they snuck in anyway. back in the late 80's, the token clerks barely even looked up when you flashed the pass....you just walked pass the token booth, opened the old exit slam gates, flashed your pass in the air, and walked in.... Most of the time the clerk didn't even look up. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 1 09:26:13 2010, in response to Re: 2009 Center-rightists and partial Libertarians, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 1 04:20:13 2010. Correct, I am not a "liberal" and never was, but I was never a "right winger" either. I did support Clinton (for the most part), and did vote for him, although not in 1992 as mentioned, but in 1996. I also had a hard time in 1988, and "almost" voted for Dukakis.I am not really a right winger either (REALLY), but I do agree that the current Democratic party has moved to far left for me. I do identify just right of center, but the Democratic party has moved too far left. That said, I am not thrilled with the Republican party either, as they moved too far right, but what are people just left of center or just right of center to do when you have what the current Democratic party gives us, and the current Republican party gives us...it's a lesser of two evils in my opinion, and since I do identify right of center, I don't have much choice but to vote for the Republican in some of these circumstances, as the Democrats are often way too far left. This dilemma is mostly on the bigger campaigns....I have no problem with pulling Democratic for many of my local politicians, etc. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Jan 3 13:43:51 2011, in response to Re: 2009 List Of Libs, posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 29 22:09:04 2009. Knowing it's a verb can help you score well at Scrabble though. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Jan 3 14:00:15 2011, in response to Re: 2009 List Of Neo-Right Wingers, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Dec 29 15:04:24 2009. Not you, AIM (whomever that is).The reason for banning Arial. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 3 14:07:46 2011, in response to Re: 2009 List Of Neo-Right Wingers, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Dec 29 15:04:24 2009. LOL, he's still that stupid. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jan 3 14:14:20 2011, in response to Re: 2009 List Of Neo-Right Wingers, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Dec 29 13:02:40 2009. lol |
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Posted by johnl on Mon Jan 3 17:26:06 2011, in response to Re: 2009 List Of Neo-Right Wingers, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Jan 3 14:00:15 2011. While Arial and Helvetica are bland fonts, their failing of distinguishing between certain letters is also shared with most sans serif faces. |
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Posted by SUBwaySURF on Mon Jan 3 17:35:50 2011, in response to Re: 2009 List Of Center-Rightists and Partial Libertarians, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Dec 29 13:06:55 2009. >>>>>"Still happy nobody can pigeonhole me . . ."<<<<<Keep telling your self that. |
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