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Posted by Easy on Sun Mar 1 00:05:50 2009, in response to Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 28 23:59:20 2009. You couldn't wait for 40 more seconds?? ;)I don't think that anyone really cares, but if it is a PC reason...no..wait...I still wouldn't care. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 00:09:01 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 1 00:05:50 2009. If it's a PC reason, it's a shame. Even the black cashier at the Wal-Mart was laughing at how silly it is to remove it for PC reasons.Your response says that you do care, b/c you know how out-of-control political correctness is, and you feel that anyone not down with PC must be in the KKK or something. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 00:13:57 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 1 00:05:50 2009. "but if it is a PC reason...no..wait...I still wouldn't care"Yes you would. You would see it as a victory for people who think like you. Let me know if you see it at a McDonald's near you. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Mar 1 00:17:05 2009, in response to Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 28 23:59:20 2009. What flavor is it? Mint chocolate chip? |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Mar 1 00:18:34 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 00:13:57 2009. People that think like me? If I see it here I'll let my kids order it and won't think anything of it. I'll also be taking advantage of the reduced price Filet O Fish Fridays.But if they don't want it in NYC I don't really care. I doubt if it's a PC reason, but who knows? You're bound to be right sooner or later. ;) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 00:21:29 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Mar 1 00:17:05 2009. It's mint flavored. Just a mint flavored shake that the McDonald's used to roll out for St Patrick's Day. They stopped for a while, then brought it back about two years ago, on an international basis, minus, you got it, NY/NJ. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 00:26:53 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 1 00:18:34 2009. I'm rarely wrong. Let me know if you see it when you go to McDonald's. I'm so right about the PC aspect of it. Unless, people here confirm seeing it in NY.In Florida, it's selling well. No shamrock on the sign. Nothing to ethnicize it. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Mar 1 00:49:13 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 00:21:29 2009. Thank you |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Mar 1 00:53:36 2009, in response to Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 28 23:59:20 2009. The only reason to go to Philly lol. |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sun Mar 1 01:11:31 2009, in response to Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 28 23:59:20 2009. I remember seeing this shake being sold last year at the McDonalds at Forest Ave & Broadway on Staten Island. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 01:13:50 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sun Mar 1 01:11:31 2009. McDonald's made a few public statements last year, clearly stating that it's not for sale in the NY market. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 01:16:50 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 01:13:50 2009. After they offed Cookie O'Puss, there wasn't much point to it anymore. If it's green liquids you're after, there's always the Chicago River. :) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 01:25:16 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 01:16:50 2009. And that's all it really is, green mint flavored syrup, powder, and milk. But it was great as a kid. And since it's offered for such a limited time, I went and had one tonight.But in NY, it would bother so many people, so they leave it off the menu. That's how people from NY are. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 01:37:56 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 01:25:16 2009. What can I say? Rte 20 and Schoolhouse Rd one in Guilderland has 'em ... but NYC? Ah well ... maybe if they flavored them with Papaya, it'd be a go. :) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 1 01:42:31 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 1 00:05:50 2009. You couldn't wait for 40 more seconds?It's out in the Poconos already (i.e. during this last week of February). |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 1 01:43:47 2009, in response to Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 28 23:59:20 2009. They used to have it in the NY metro area. Used to be as ubiquitous as their competition Jack In The Box. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 01:55:29 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 1 01:42:31 2009. LOL. I remember buying one at the Brodheadsville location last year. It's just so retarded that the NYC area isn't allowed to sell it, because NY is filled with race-minded people who keep racial scorecard of stuff like this, and would pressure McDonald's into removing it or adding shakes for other ethnic holidays too.NY hosts the largest St. Patrick's Day parade in the country, but can't sell the shake. Meanwhile, you can buy one in Riverview, FL or Van Nuys, CA. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 01:57:34 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 1 01:43:47 2009. They always had it in NY metro. Now it's the only metro in NY and Canada that is not selling it for PC reasons I suspect. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 02:10:08 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 01:57:34 2009. Nope ... did a little digging, and the problem has to do with two things in the NY Metro area. First off, the city's "food nutrition" regulations since there are trans-fats in the "ice milk" base for the particular shake. Second issue is the limited demand which takes one blender out of service and cuts into profits. FWIW, the Ancient Order of Hibernians has been after McDonald's to make the shake available all year. So there's yer "PC" ... heh.Besides, any time I've ever felt like a shake, the damned shake machines were "broken" anyway since they'd just run the heaters and cleaned them and last thing any "lot and lobby" person wants to do is go through that AGAIN in a 24 hour period. :) |
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Posted by EastSideRider on Sun Mar 1 02:30:56 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 02:10:08 2009. "Besides, any time I've ever felt like a shake, the damned shake machines were "broken" anyway since they'd just run the heaters and cleaned them and last thing any "lot and lobby" person wants to do is go through that AGAIN in a 24 hour period. :)"Heh, you worked in fast food before? I do myself, so I know what your talkin bout :-P |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 02:35:03 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 02:10:08 2009. You're wrong. But it's no big deal.First of all, the trans-fat laws apply to NYC proper, so it does not explain why Long Island, Westchester, and Northern NJ don't sell it. Also, the trans-fat laws went into effect after McDonald's decision to not offer the Shamrock Shake in NY. So something has been stopping them from selling it all along. Blender? Nope. It's just a bag with green syrup that attaches to a hose inside a machine. I even saw it myself at the Riverview, FL location tonight. And the manager told me it has been selling well all week. It has been profitable, which is why it's back on the menu. Are you 100% sure the Shamrock Shake has trans fat and the other shakes don't? McDonald's offers nutrional charts to the public. We can find out for sure. I think I have accurately explained why McDonald's didn't sell the Shamrock Shake in NY Metro last year. Maybe it's availabe this year. Let's see what some here say or see. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 02:43:51 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by EastSideRider on Sun Mar 1 02:30:56 2009. For ME, last time was late 60's at a Goody's joint (Bugger Kink "system") on Broadway between 230 and 231. But the wife did Mickey's in Zoo Paltz. I'm a firm believer that in order to properly get "rounded out" in life, one has to work (however briefly) in food service, transportation and retail. After that under your belt, you learn to stop bitching and be grateful for whatever happens next. =) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 02:47:05 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 02:43:51 2009. http://gothamist.com/2006/03/15/quest_for_the_s.phpCheck this out. Two years ago, before NY's trans-fat laws were enacted, this blog lit up with complaints by people wondering why the fuck NY and only NY won't sell the shake. At least we know the real reason here on Chat. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 02:51:35 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 02:47:05 2009. What can I say? I suspect the REAL reason the franchisees didn't want to do it was taking a valuable machine out of service to mix something that didn't sell as well as the other crap. When your margin is in pennies, you sit and figure out if there's enough of them. A single PENNY per sale means a lot in "fast food." But we got O'Grimace here. Heh. |
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Posted by EastSideRider on Sun Mar 1 02:53:26 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 02:43:51 2009. Lol, I can agree with that, so many different people you meet at the job... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 02:53:38 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 02:35:03 2009. Just replied to your other since I was in that subthread anyway. If it's NOT the "contents" of the bag, then it's the sidelining of a stirrer. That makes it economics ... I can find NO evidence of any organized "boycott" or ethnic complaints as the cause, so DO feel free to post whatever you find as "proff" ... but burden's on you now. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 02:57:17 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by EastSideRider on Sun Mar 1 02:53:26 2009. The more useful leson out of it all is "humility" for one, dealing with grumpy and inconsiderate people and learning NOT to provide "extra clams" to that obnoxious suit along with their crabby patty. :)Same with transportation and retail ... valuable lesson for future business work in realizing that the customer is ALWAYS right even though they be a toad. Heh. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 02:58:52 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 02:51:35 2009. http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/food/2007/03/16/2007-03-16_shamrock_shake_shocker_its_disappeared.htmlWill you stop saying that! They don't have to take a machine out of service to serve the Shamrock Shake. Go buy one yourself, and you'll see. It's just a bag of green liquid attached to a hose. The cashier presses the button for the flaver she wants. Vanilla, Chocolate, or Shamrock Shake. Read the Daily News article. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 03:04:15 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 02:53:38 2009. It's the common sense of the local franchise owners of NY area McDonald's understanding their political environment.If they sell the Shamrock Shake in NYC, someone will say, "Hey, how about a shake for the Puerto Rican Day Parade? The Gay Parade(Rainbow Shake)"? Someone will take out their racial scorecard in NY, and feel offended at McDonald's endorsement of an Irish holiday. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 03:05:54 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 02:58:52 2009. I'm not a mint fan, but confirmed that ALL of the local franchises here in NEW YORK have it ... your link says nothing about your claim that it's political correctness ... with the sales volumes involved in the NY Metro area, the cost of handling it probably isn't justified by the demand. And I'm sure some of the other folks here who work in "fast food" can confirm what I'm saying. Did you know that a single slice of cheese is a profit-killer? Or ONE bag of extra ketchup filched from the trays in the "self-serve" area?Most of the NY Metro area McD's are owned by a small handful of franchisees ... they don't want the extra expense if the volume of sales ain't there, and apparently shakes in general ain't selling worth the effort. Did you READ the article you linked to thoroughly? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 03:10:06 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 03:04:15 2009. Now you're making shit up ... here ... look out the window! |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun Mar 1 03:11:22 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 01:16:50 2009. Cookie O'Puss?Aren't you getting McDonalds mixed up with Carvel? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 03:12:03 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 03:05:54 2009. I did. McDonald's shake machines can hold more than Vanilla and Chocolate flavors.You mean to tell me that the smaller Florida McDonald's I went to tonight can sell more Shamrock Shakes than a McDonald's on Fifth Ave during the St. Patrick's Day parade? Please. This shake was sold in every major market in the US last year, minus NY. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 03:15:34 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 03:10:06 2009. McDonald's knows the score. NY is like no other market. Very race/ethnic conscious people. I wouldn't sell the shake if I owned the location at Liberty and Lefferts, or Ditmars/Astoria Blvd.The posts on the blogs prove that people want the shake in NY. Of course it would sell, just like it sells in Florida, PA, etc...... Sells everywhere! There's something going on behind the scenes in NY, home of the St. Patricks's Day Parade on Fifth Ave, but no Shamrock Shake. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 03:16:35 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by daDouce Man on Sun Mar 1 03:11:22 2009. Nope ... but when Cookie O'Puss vanished, so did the shamrock shake, Officer Joe McCarthy and a raft of others. I suspect either Jedi squirrels or a UFO abduction. :) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 03:18:41 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 03:16:35 2009. Nah. I'm right. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 03:19:15 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 03:12:03 2009. Ah well ... looks like you're gonna hump this topic all night. Now ask yourself ... how MANY customers do those fine Scottish restaurants (named after a farmer who had a cow, EIEIO) handle in Salt Marsh, FL as compared to NYC per store? I'll bet there's your answer. As I said a while back, if you have PROFF that it's them pesky lawyers, then post it. Otherwise I think I'm done with this thread. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 03:20:55 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 03:15:34 2009. Uh-huh. OK, so maybe they're too busy selling Fried chicken, Cuchifritos, and chitlins to be bothered with the Micks? Is THAT it? :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 03:21:57 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 03:18:41 2009. Of course ... never had any doubts. :) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 03:23:33 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 03:19:15 2009. You were done the second you started talking about different blenders and trans fat. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 03:26:49 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 03:20:55 2009. I don't think it's really an endorsement of Irish heritage. I think McDonald's just wants to drive sales. They got me to spend $2.29 on the shake tonight, and I'll go back once more. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 03:28:48 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 03:23:33 2009. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 03:35:49 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 03:28:48 2009. Wasn't there a racial grievance to that too? Hispanics didn't like the chihuahua in the tv commercials? They felt it was racist. Yes. |
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Posted by R PansePCC on Sun Mar 1 06:41:10 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Mar 1 00:53:36 2009. I can think of another reason :-) |
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Posted by R PansePCC on Sun Mar 1 06:44:10 2009, in response to Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 28 23:59:20 2009. I must say that you do think outside of the box. I do find it very offensive that the PATH system reminds its riders that drinking alcoholic beverages on March 17th is illegal. Talk about stereotyping. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 1 08:02:53 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 03:35:49 2009. Yes, they had to stop using the little dog in Taco Bell commercials because Hispanics thought it was racist. I forgot the reason they thought it was racist though. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 12:55:44 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by R PansePCC on Sun Mar 1 06:44:10 2009. If I was Irish, I would not be offended by that announcement, simply because St. Patricks Day is so commercialized, it encourages everyone to use it as an excuse to drink.I'm not thinking outside the box. Shamrock Shake is available worldwide right now, minus NY Metro, and I know how people from NY are. Makes sense that the franchise owners in NY would vote it down. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 12:57:42 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 1 08:02:53 2009. As we know, we live in a society that encourage people to find reasons to be offended, when there's nothing behind it. This is a great example. |
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Posted by pd11604 on Sun Mar 1 13:15:18 2009, in response to Re: Shamrock Shake @ McDonald's, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sun Mar 1 01:11:31 2009. Maybe because it is on the route of the SI St. Patrick's Day parade? |
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