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Posted by Easy on Fri Nov 7 21:24:04 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 7 21:22:49 2008. If you and your wife died in a car accident..I don't think you'd be to happy.lol |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Fri Nov 7 21:28:12 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 7 21:22:49 2008. Ouch, tad harsh there... |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Nov 7 21:34:44 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 7 21:22:49 2008. I wouldn't care - I'd be dead.See, you can be a fucktard if you try hard enough. :0) |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Nov 7 21:38:03 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 7 21:21:16 2008. As oopposed to being raised by a Hitler lover like you? |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Nov 7 21:38:51 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 7 21:09:51 2008. Did you bang her sister too? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 7 23:32:35 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Nov 7 21:34:44 2008. I'll try a little harder. If you were dead, and your kids were in foster care, your first choice would be for them to be with a heterosexual family. In fact, it would be your first through 100th choice. Gay couple would be 100th at best. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Nov 8 01:30:49 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Nov 7 14:07:03 2008. As you can tell by his lack of a response. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Nov 8 01:41:54 2008, in response to Gay protest in LA, posted by Easy on Thu Nov 6 02:07:30 2008. they were out again tonight this time in long beach easy ! |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sat Nov 8 01:48:01 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 6 04:08:34 2008. That's because they are deep in the woods. Did you not understand that concept? |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 8 01:51:03 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Nov 8 01:41:54 2008. I saw that on the news. Silver Lake tomorrow. Maybe 20,000 people.Here's the list for local marches. Still no marches scheduled for south LA to protest the 70% black vote for the ban on gay marriage. ;) |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Nov 8 02:05:08 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 8 01:51:03 2008. Good, nothing in Eagle Rock or Highland Park. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Nov 8 02:06:45 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Nov 7 21:38:51 2008. Her brother. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Nov 8 02:11:54 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 6 04:08:34 2008. Astounding how much you know about gay pick up places. Come out, come out where ever you are. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sat Nov 8 02:12:30 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 8 01:51:03 2008. "Still no marches scheduled for south LA to protest the 70% black vote for the ban on gay marriage"Blacks in South LA suffer from deep cultural and educational deprivation. As a consequence, many are dependent on demagogues for what they "know." They get their education not from school, but from some shitbag who runs a storefront "church" (as common as liquor stores) and exploits them. Naturally that person is going to be a homophobe and perpetuate all the myths. I used to work in aerospace in the mid-1980s. There were 70,000 people working where I was, and one out of six had a master's degree or Ph.D. Barely two miles away was the ghetto and nobody there had a snowflake's chance in a hot oven of getting hired where I worked. We had an ioen house where we invited local kids to look at partly built spacecraft, aircraft radars ad other things. We let them play with electron microscopes. Maybe 1 in 25 got inspired enough to pull themselves out of the gutter and do something useful in life. Instead of striving for knowledge, they follow opinion leaders who perpetuate the same kinds of stereotypes that helped keep opportunity away from blacks. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sat Nov 8 02:13:54 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Nov 8 02:11:54 2008. He's busy banging his Aryan brothers... |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 8 02:26:01 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Nov 8 02:05:08 2008. Eagle Rock and Highland Park are so secluded. Or maybe I just feel like that because I live on the other side of town.Anyway, I think that there is at least a small gay community there, but not enough for a protest. I have no worry whatsoever that there would be one in Carson. They'd likely have more detractors than supporters. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sat Nov 8 02:41:48 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Nov 8 02:06:45 2008. LOL |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Nov 8 02:42:14 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 8 02:26:01 2008. I saw a large "No on 8" demonstration last weekend at the corner of Eagle Rock and Colorado boulevards, obviously before the election. Too many pedestrians when I was trying to make a right turn at the intersection... |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Nov 8 05:41:09 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by RonInBayside on Sat Nov 8 02:13:54 2008. I don't think he's doing the banging, IYNWIM. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Nov 8 06:17:11 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Nov 8 02:05:08 2008. good nothing in pasadena ! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 8 06:25:11 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Nov 8 06:17:11 2008. Been following this whole thread in amazement ... gotta throw in two cent worth though since you and I respect one another. Hopefully others will see this nonsense out of Utah for what it's worth as well ... y'all got fooled out there in the land of "lezgoabeach" ... :( I understand the emotions and the religion ... but "it IS what it is" ... go after the MOST vulnerable, and when THEY fall, then get the rest. Huey and Bobby knew what it meant ... :( This SHOULDN'T have come down the way it did, and anyone who agreed with the Romney Church should be ashamed for what it is ... and not to worry about me on this, 30th anniversary for me and the missus. But SHAME on California for showing off their BEST Alabama here. NEXT?!? :( |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Nov 8 09:02:38 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 8 06:25:11 2008. SelkirkTMO i dont see it as two drinking fountains for gays straightsetc / nothing similar to me at all & totally different what discrimination has white male gays had done to them anywhere the hell american black men have ? white american gays have gone thru what usa blacks have ?? including forced slavery lynchings jim crow , and on and on .... give me a break SelkirkTMO!! it falls on deaf ears with me when a white male who is gay calls himself a ''minority group'' and this is supposed to be similar to ''black people and persons of color'' etc.. same thing when a white american female calls herself a minority!! the truth is the latino and blacks california voters rejected gay marrage here once a VOTE was made so that the will of the people could decide here they can have legal civil unions but i do not want my children and grandchildren taught in school that gay marrage is normal and good most voters here voted YES ON PROP 8 to stop this !! we gave it no chance that this will ever happen so the yes voters out did the no voters here and every thing gay failed in 4 states not just california |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 8 09:33:06 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Nov 8 09:02:38 2008. I *know* what you mean, but out of any last bit of respect for ME you have, step off here ... Obama got it ... and with a lot of WHITE votes too. Old realities HAVE fallen ... there are OTHER minorities (like WOMEN who are 53% of the population, and kicked aside) who ALSO need some peace ... and justice. I understand that California Black men don't approve, and most white people don't either ... but EQUAL means EQUAL.You're letting WHITE people control your thoughts there, buddy ... Reality (at least to my mind) is that people should be free to be themselves behind closed doors or else the same mentality selling this nonsense endorses Rodney King ... injustice is injustice no matter WHO or WHAT it touches ... I have more faith in you than that, sure hope I'm not hearing you properly ... is it THAT big a deal what OTHERS think? Are we not all EQUAL under the law? Or is the whole "civil rights" thing just for SOME people, but not OTHERS? If people are not up in your face, does it matter? No offense, but isn't it about the quality of one's soul rather than the opinions of others? Like I said, I'm quite straight (with proff, heh) ... but WHEN is discrimination justified? Or should we let those folks roll back YOURS? When it comes to rights, taking rights away from ANYBODY threatens the taking away of rights from others. "Remember GITMO" if it makes the point. Nobody's ASKING anyone to convert here, simple matter of human dignity based upon the caste system imposed ... I'm for the freedom of EVERYONE, and can't see casting people aside on a basis of disapproval of ANY group. Otherwise, let's bring back "Jim Crow." :( |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Nov 8 10:24:38 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 8 09:33:06 2008. oh no no church or racial group made me vote yes even though all ofmy contacts here with every latino and black and even some california whites etc.. , all voted yes on this prop 8 stuff here just like arizona voted on thier prop 102 and the main concern was the gay marrage being forced on children in the schools and the voters here who werein the majority decied to stop this california supreme court decision here and stop it dead in its tracks remember this was a VOTE by the ''will of the people'' here hell i think civil unions should be [ legal relationships ] should be for everyone and divorce easy to do as it is to have a legal civil union !! and i would not ban gays from this at all but i do agree that gay marrage should be forced as sex education in any way in the schools and i understand parents of students who object to this being taught to thier children as it is the law and you have to send your child / teenager to school unless you are well off enough to pay for some sky high private elite school !! and only the well off can do this right SelkirkTMO ?? and especially in schools with religion do you think gay marrage is taught there as normal ? .. .and home schoolers too hell no !! the will of the people is what ruled here because unlike the rest of the country calls us here in california we are not the land of ''fruits and nuts'' as most mid western and eastern folks call us here !! nope !! hell i voted for mckinney for president does that make me progressive SelkirkTMO ?? |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Nov 8 11:14:49 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Nov 8 09:02:38 2008. >>>white american gays have gone thru what usa blacks have ??<<< YES, AND MORE SO. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Nov 8 11:30:00 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Nov 8 11:14:49 2008. ok were whire male gays brought here ( an entire nation of them )against thier will forced fed pork and christianity forced on them when they were finally allowed to have a religion ? when thier original religion was islam etc... before 1555 ? did we the native american indians / blacks aisan-&-africans do this to any other racial group kidnap them and force them to labor some 400 years for free and rob them totally of the knoledge of self kind and thier original nation ? and kill and lynch them if they tried to restore themselves in any way ( the struggle continues today ) then even when they were free did we then lynch them, jim crow promise reprations then deny that and then destroy all of thier attempts to have any kind of human rights ?? unjust courts etc.. you are saying that the black man has a history of enslaving and even lynching [white male gays] when and where did this happen ? i dont see that in any history anywhere i do not see where africa / asia invaded europe and did anything anyway near what was done in the making of america .... not even close i can see the fight against forced kidnapping and slave revolts etc. oh well |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 8 12:52:08 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 8 01:51:03 2008. I love the fact that the gay community does not have the guts to confront the black community for voting against gay marriage.This was probably the case in the past, but no one put as much focus on the black vote before, because Obama wasn't running back then. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Nov 8 17:24:02 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Nov 8 11:14:49 2008. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Nov 8 17:24:13 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Nov 8 11:14:49 2008. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sat Nov 8 18:04:16 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Nov 8 09:02:38 2008. "the truth is the latino and blacks california voters rejectedgay marrage here once a VOTE was made so that the will of the people could decide here" The same was true for apartheid. It's evil. "i do not want my children and grandchildren taught in school that gay marrage is normal and good" You're ignorant and hateful. You're also unemployed and costing me money. Instead of spouting your hatred, why not get a real job, get off of welfare and make something of yourself. You're good at taking photos - do it professionally. Until then your opinion about what gay is has no value. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Nov 8 19:11:54 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 8 12:52:08 2008. And never mind what the strongest institutions are in black communities: churches where religion is strong. Without those church-going blacks who hold the traditional idea of marriage strongly, Proposition 8 fails.But count me as one underestimating the black vote. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Nov 8 19:13:02 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 7 23:32:35 2008. No...you would have no choice, because dead people don't talk! |
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Posted by R PansePCC on Sat Nov 8 19:30:31 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Nov 8 17:24:13 2008. The men in the video don't agree that gay marriage is a civil right issue. I can see their point. I do however think that gay marriage should be allowed. I do know that gays are ridiculed and persecuted on a daily basis. The marriage issue is about money too. I believe that if two gay people share a life together they should be entitled to every benefit that a married heterosexual couple have. Two big things are health benefits and Social Security. If a gay couple were to marry and one of them lost their job they should be covered under their spouse's medical. If after many years of marriage one partner should die, I think that the surviving spouse should be entitled to the deceased partners Social Security amount should it be higher. I did find it it humorous that the men in the video said that being gay is a choice. It isn't a choice. It is the way you are born. People may dream that you can change a person's sexual orientation, but it is only a dream. |
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Posted by R PansePCC on Sat Nov 8 19:40:24 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 6 04:08:34 2008. Yes you are correct about Forest Park. You are also correct about the fact that it is not that well known as a gay part of the park. I live right across the street form that section of the park and I would see lots of men venture down the paths as I was jogging or biking by. It is very discreet and you would never know what was going on if you passed by there. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sat Nov 8 20:09:41 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Nov 8 05:41:09 2008. LOL |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Nov 8 20:35:20 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 6 04:08:34 2008. Wait---is this why the NYC Parks Department closed Forest Park Drive permanently between Woodhaven and Metropolitan? |
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Posted by ntrainride on Sat Nov 8 22:12:13 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by R PansePCC on Sat Nov 8 19:40:24 2008. We want children playing on the swings to see perverts ducking into teh bushes? Naw. We should just chase `em out of the woods, beat on them and kick them on the way out. This is something these men engaging in sex with other men never understand. And what most people think when they hear "gay marriage". And fuck them for copping that word anyway. There's nothing gay about it. |
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Posted by R PansePCC on Sat Nov 8 23:27:58 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by ntrainride on Sat Nov 8 22:12:13 2008. There are no swings or any type of children's playground near where this occurs. It is a secluded area in a dense forested area of the park. Unless you live nearby you would never know it happens. |
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Posted by R PansePCC on Sat Nov 8 23:37:20 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Nov 8 20:35:20 2008. Forest Park Drive has been closed for about 15 years. It was done so that people could use the roadway for jogging, biking, walking, dog walking, and rollerblading. Molloy's track team trains there as well as some other schools. You will find senior citizens and mother's with baby carriages all walking along this 1.5+ mile road. Before it was closed completely the Parks Dept. would close FPD from 9:00 AM - 3:00 PM on weekdays and all day on the weekends. The people loved it and asked to have it closed permanently. I did my training for the NYC Marathon there back in 1989. I also must have ridden my bike thousands of miles there too. I find it completely safe. |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Sun Nov 9 01:02:40 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by R30A on Thu Nov 6 02:56:16 2008. 10 points! |
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Posted by ntrainride on Sun Nov 9 02:33:26 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 7 21:21:16 2008. Agreed. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Sun Nov 9 02:48:00 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by R PansePCC on Sat Nov 8 23:27:58 2008. Unfuckingbelievable. Are you kidding me? You don't know kids. They go to all parts of a park. Imagine little Javier and Bobby riding their 10 speeds on a path coming across...some greasy freak going down on another greasy freak. Parks are no place for that shit. It's a sign of a decayed society. Those "men" doing this are fucking deviants. I hope a couple of neighborhood dads take a stroll through this location some night and let some buckshot loose into the bushes. Or maybe bring lots of big dogs in and let `em loose.Or just burn the fucking woods down. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Nov 9 08:44:33 2008, in response to Gay protest in LA, posted by Easy on Thu Nov 6 02:07:30 2008. The lawsuit filed today by the ACLU and Equality California seeking to invalidate the decision of California voters to enshrine traditional marriage in California’s constitution is frivolous and regrettable. These same groups filed an identical case with the California Supreme Court months ago, which was summarily dismissed. We will vigorously defend the People’s decision to enact Proposition 8.This is the second time that California voters have acted to define marriage as between a man and a woman. It is time that the opponents of traditional marriage respect the voters’ decision. The ACLU/Equality California lawsuit is completely lacking in merit. It is as if their campaign just spent $40 million on a losing campaign opposing something they now say is a legal nullity. Their position is absurd, an insult to California voters and an attack on the initiative process itself. The right to amend California’s Constitution is not granted to the People, it is reserved by the People. The Supreme Court has repeatedly acknowledged the reserved power of the People to use the initiative process to amend the Constitution. For example, when the Rose Bird Court struck down the death penalty as a violation of fundamental state constitutional rights, the People disagreed, and in the exercise of their sovereign power reversed that interpretation of their Constitution through the initiative-amendment process. Even a liberal jurist who vehemently disagreed with the People’s decision on the death penalty, Justice Stanley Mosk, nevertheless acknowledged the People’s authority to decide the issue through the initiative-amendment process. It should also be noted that the ACLU recently made this same “constitutional revision” claim in a nearly identical matter in Oregon and it was unanimously rejected. The claim was made under almost identical provisions of the Oregon State Constitution, against an almost identical voter constitutional amendment which read, “…only a marriage between one man and one woman shall be valid or legally recognized as a marriage.” The Court of Appeals of Oregon unanimously rejected the ACLU’s “revision” claim. (Martinez v. Kulongoski (May 21, 2008) --- P.3d----, 220 Or.App. 142, 2008 WL2120516). The coalition that has worked so hard for the past year to enact Proposition 8 will vigorously defend the People’s decision against this unfortunate challenge by groups who, having lost in the court of public opinion, now turn to courts of law to pursue their agenda.” yes on 8 |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Sun Nov 9 09:30:29 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Nov 7 12:06:18 2008. It's okay to get on the gays, but the minute soemone says something about Jews... |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Nov 9 11:24:02 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Nov 9 08:44:33 2008. Obviously you didn't write this. The grammar, spelling and punctuation are all correct, even if the message is retarded. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Nov 9 11:25:42 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Charles G on Thu Nov 6 14:28:56 2008. That's a very interesting argument, and in the context of this thread it holds merit. |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Sun Nov 9 11:49:39 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by ntrainride on Sun Nov 9 02:48:00 2008. I have an idea, why don't you and me napalm Chelsea? You could bring your kids!USA! USA! USA! *shoots gun* |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Nov 9 11:57:20 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by ntrainride on Sun Nov 9 02:48:00 2008. The only thing better than that would be for someone like you to help them burn down the park and accidentally get caught in the fire. It would be one less bigoted scumbag in society and we wouldn't have to waste tax dollars on a trial for you or a prison cell. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Nov 9 17:41:42 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by RonInBayside on Sat Nov 8 18:04:16 2008. well then you are against most of good god fearing loving black and latinos here in california !!we are not the land of fruits and nuts as most you eascoasters call us because i still have not met ONE who voted no on prop 8 here !! my opinion has good value because the majority not a sissy minority voted for families and regected forced gay marrage being taught in the schools and church, mosque etc .. also you ignore the ''will of the people'' here and instead call me and us who voted yes on 8 for something god is totally against in all religions so i am on the side of god here whos side are you on ? this is not apartheid this is gods law and most people here in california are god believing people of many faiths we cannot vote for something the all mighty is against no we do not want our children to be taught this is normal behaviour this is totally wrong and we voted yes on 8 and prop 22 !! most california prop 8 voters agree with me |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Nov 9 17:45:01 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Nov 9 11:24:02 2008. get over it in california we voted for prop 22 and pro 8and we overide our 4 state supreme court judges and made this final the will of the people was finally heard here and made into LAW |
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