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Re: More insane laws

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 10 15:37:50 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by LA Blue Line on Mon Sep 10 15:36:35 2007.

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Hey, at least those were the right letters, the fingers just didn't type them in the right order!

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Re: More insane laws

Posted by BMTLines on Mon Sep 10 15:41:16 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 10 14:58:19 2007.

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That's different...that's not government.

Not necessarily - it's an example of what you get with pure democracy: tyranny of the majority.

And no I don't live in one of those but Pigs is right - they are spreading like cancers throughout this country.

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Re: More insane laws

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 10 15:45:51 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by BMTLines on Mon Sep 10 15:41:16 2007.

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The thing is....people obviously are moving to these Stepford Wives sort of communities, and they keep building them and filling them, so obviously there is demand, or they wouldn't be selling them....

It's irrelevant whether they keep popping up...as long as there are people to fill them, what difference does it make. Just don't move to one....it's not like there aren't other places to live.

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Re: More insane laws

Posted by LA Blue Line on Mon Sep 10 15:48:42 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 10 15:37:50 2007.

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:)

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Re: More insane laws

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 10 16:02:06 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 10 15:45:51 2007.

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Like I said, in some places that is becoming increasingly true.

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Re: More insane laws

Posted by The Port of Authority on Mon Sep 10 19:03:24 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 10 15:13:34 2007.

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And this reminds me: STREET HIERARCHIES SUCK ASS! GRIDS FOREVER!

TRUTH

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California! Re: More insane laws

Posted by E Line Fan on Mon Sep 10 20:10:50 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by LA Blue Line on Mon Sep 10 15:48:42 2007.

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One of my favorite laws: "Sunshine Is Guarenteed To The Masses." :)

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Re: More insane laws

Posted by jimmymc25 on Mon Sep 10 21:19:09 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 10 14:17:18 2007.

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And in other areas as well as drinking.

It's like society and companies look at some mistakes by a few dum people & decide the solution is to scew things up for everyone else.

Jimmymc25

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Re: More insane laws

Posted by jimmymc25 on Mon Sep 10 21:29:57 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Sep 10 09:43:11 2007.

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Chris is right, I've seen that stuff too.

Jimmymc25

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Re: More insane laws

Posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 11 07:00:25 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 10 10:53:54 2007.

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The same with seatbelt laws, helmut laws, and all the rest of them.

LOL, I hear those guys are dangerous!

your pal,
Fred

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Grids Re: More insane laws

Posted by Rail Blue on Tue Sep 11 10:32:00 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 10 15:13:34 2007.

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And this reminds me: STREET HIERARCHIES SUCK ASS! GRIDS FOREVER!

So would you want to abolish, say, Broadway or Fulton Street?

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Re: Grids Re: More insane laws

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 11 10:41:42 2007, in response to Grids Re: More insane laws, posted by Rail Blue on Tue Sep 11 10:32:00 2007.

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No!!! They are the only thing that break up the monotony of Manhattan's grid system. Grid systems have their place, but they are certainly not always the best layout to take. I think it works well in a location like Manhattan which is relatively small, and Broadway is certainly a godsent in the middle of the monotony. But in general, I don't like it in areas like Brentwood, Deer Park, North Bellport, and many other places where the grid system strikes it's hard lines through the landscape. I feel it works well in urban areas, but not in suburban areas.

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Re: Grids Re: More insane laws

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 11 11:19:57 2007, in response to Grids Re: More insane laws, posted by Rail Blue on Tue Sep 11 10:32:00 2007.

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That still counts as a grid rather than a hierarchy because there are numerous cross streets which connect to parallel or roughly parallel routes. If I didn't like Broadway I could use 7th Avenue, or 5th, or 9th.

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Re: Grids Re: More insane laws

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 11 11:20:44 2007, in response to Re: Grids Re: More insane laws, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 11 10:41:42 2007.

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I disagree. Even suburban areas would be better off with grids, even if they were skewed in their shape like Lower Manhattan.

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Re: More insane laws

Posted by David of Broadway on Sun Sep 16 19:35:17 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Sep 9 13:46:03 2007.

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I have no problem with requiring some sort of driver's ed course in order to obtain a driver's license.

The course should be available to anyone of legal age who wishes to learn to drive. Those who do not wish to learn to drive should not be expected to take the course or to pay for it.

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Re: More insane laws

Posted by David of Broadway on Sun Sep 16 19:37:45 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Sep 9 13:47:29 2007.

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An unbelted driver may be thrown out of his seat - and away from the steering wheel - in a collision. A belted driver is more likely to remain in proximity to the steering wheel.

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Re: More insane laws

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Sep 16 19:47:40 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by David of Broadway on Sun Sep 16 19:37:45 2007.

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But if no one is pushing the gas, the car comes to a stop.

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Re: More insane laws

Posted by Easy on Sun Sep 16 20:05:23 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Sep 16 19:47:40 2007.

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Not if you have an automatic transmission.

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Re: More insane laws

Posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Sep 16 20:08:45 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Easy on Sun Sep 16 20:05:23 2007.

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Or a manual one, either.

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Re: City wants to Ban Fast Food - More insane laws

Posted by BMTLines on Sun Sep 16 20:53:33 2007, in response to More insane laws, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 4 14:23:33 2007.

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This is the reason I categoriacally oppose almost every new law government tries to pass. First they banned smoking in bars, then they banned soda and snacks in school, then they banned trans fats and NOW.....

Proposed Ban on Fast Food



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Re: More insane laws

Posted by David of Broadway on Sun Sep 16 21:00:54 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Sep 16 19:47:40 2007.

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Immediately? Not in any car I've ever driven.

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Re: More insane laws

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Sep 16 22:19:23 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Sep 16 20:08:45 2007.

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If your car is in gear, and your clutch is not depressed the car will come to abrupt stop and stall the motor with a manual. If your shifter is in neutral, the car will keep going. I've had a lot of stick-shift cars.

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Re: City wants to Ban Fast Food - More insane laws

Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sun Sep 16 22:25:33 2007, in response to Re: City wants to Ban Fast Food - More insane laws, posted by BMTLines on Sun Sep 16 20:53:33 2007.

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Hopefully that won't pass.

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Re: City wants to Ban Fast Food - More insane laws

Posted by Scrabbleship on Sun Sep 16 22:44:26 2007, in response to Re: City wants to Ban Fast Food - More insane laws, posted by BMTLines on Sun Sep 16 20:53:33 2007.

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Stuff like this is what makes anarchy and dictatorship (or at least anarchy) appealing. No government is better than too much government and I'd take a world with no government or one person ruling by the views of all of the people rather than this corrupt mess.

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Re: City wants to Ban Fast Food - More insane laws

Posted by Easy on Sun Sep 16 22:49:56 2007, in response to Re: City wants to Ban Fast Food - More insane laws, posted by BMTLines on Sun Sep 16 20:53:33 2007.

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LA is not proposing a ban on fast food. It's just a 2-year moratorium on new busuinesses in one part of the city. I don't think that's a good idea, but it's far from a ban.

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Re: City wants to Ban Fast Food - More insane laws

Posted by BMTLines on Sun Sep 16 23:13:02 2007, in response to Re: City wants to Ban Fast Food - More insane laws, posted by Easy on Sun Sep 16 22:49:56 2007.

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That's how these things start.....

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Re: City wants to Ban Fast Food - More insane laws

Posted by Easy on Sun Sep 16 23:25:57 2007, in response to Re: City wants to Ban Fast Food - More insane laws, posted by BMTLines on Sun Sep 16 23:13:02 2007.

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I think that it started years ago in LA with moratoriums on liquor store openings.

Anyway it's not like fast food restaurants or anyone else for that matter are knocking down doors to open up restaurants. The city council should be encouraging development in south LA, not discouraging it.

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Re: City wants to Ban Fast Food - More insane laws

Posted by BMTLines on Sun Sep 16 23:33:27 2007, in response to Re: City wants to Ban Fast Food - More insane laws, posted by Easy on Sun Sep 16 23:25:57 2007.

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If government really wants to fight obesity then they should promote an all-out R&D effort to invent low fat food that tastes identical to the high fat stuff. People want to eat what tastes good - not what is good for them!!

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Re: More insane laws

Posted by The Port of Authority on Mon Sep 17 02:02:32 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Sep 16 22:19:23 2007.

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From what I've experienced, it doesn't stall at once... it takes a bit of time for it to stop.

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Re: City wants to Ban Fast Food - More insane laws

Posted by DOB2RTO on Mon Sep 17 03:47:15 2007, in response to Re: City wants to Ban Fast Food - More insane laws, posted by BMTLines on Sun Sep 16 23:33:27 2007.

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"People want to eat what tastes good - not what is good for them!! "

Exactly. Southern fried pork chops chicken and fish, macaroni & cheese from the oven with salted butter, mash potatoes with melted butter, or gravy made from grease and pan leftovers, cornbread made with butter, hamhocks or smoked neck-bones in collard or mustard greens. Sweet potato and apple pie. I love southern cooking. It is 2007 and low-fat good tasting food, is few and far between.

Pickled pigs feet and chitterlings (aka shitlins), I ain't touchin' though.

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Re: More insane laws

Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Sep 17 07:15:39 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by The Port of Authority on Mon Sep 17 02:02:32 2007.

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You are right. Depending on what gear it's in, it will lurch a little.
I was thinking of the times when I popped the clutch and it stalled on me.

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Re: More insane laws

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 17 18:03:14 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by David of Broadway on Sun Sep 16 19:35:17 2007.

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This would make it more difficult for people will less spare time or money to learn to drive.

If you don't want to learn how to do long division, the school still forces you to (or at least it should). And your local municipality probably has a free public lending library, even if you have no use for it. There are some things that benefit enough people that it makes sense to have everyone pay for them according to their ability rather than according to their need.

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Re: More insane laws

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 17 18:04:32 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Easy on Sun Sep 16 20:05:23 2007.

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Or if the accident occurs on an incline.

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Re: City wants to Ban Fast Food - More insane laws

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 17 18:10:36 2007, in response to Re: City wants to Ban Fast Food - More insane laws, posted by Scrabbleship on Sun Sep 16 22:44:26 2007.

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Stuff like this is what makes anarchy and dictatorship

Those two are exact opposites.

one person ruling by the views of all of the people rather than this corrupt mess.

Only a psycho would think this way. Not only is it impossible to have views which are shared by all people, unless those views are imposed upon them; it's also impossible to find a person who, being given power, is unwilling to abuse it. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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Re: City wants to Ban Fast Food - More insane laws

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 17 18:12:44 2007, in response to Re: City wants to Ban Fast Food - More insane laws, posted by BMTLines on Sun Sep 16 23:33:27 2007.

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It's not about eating what's good for you, it's about not eating it in excess and exercising. Unless you are bedridden or otherwise enfeebled, there is no reason why you shouldn't do physical activities.

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Re: City wants to Ban Fast Food - More insane laws

Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 17 18:22:23 2007, in response to Re: City wants to Ban Fast Food - More insane laws, posted by BMTLines on Sun Sep 16 23:33:27 2007.

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Why? I like watching obese people struggle.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: City wants to Ban Fast Food - More insane laws

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Sep 17 18:28:58 2007, in response to Re: City wants to Ban Fast Food - More insane laws, posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 17 18:22:23 2007.

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Why?

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Re: City wants to Ban Fast Food - More insane laws

Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 17 19:19:26 2007, in response to Re: City wants to Ban Fast Food - More insane laws, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Sep 17 18:28:58 2007.

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Everyone needs a hobby :D

your pal,
Fred

PS J/K

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Re: Sensible law

Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Sep 17 23:03:47 2007, in response to More insane laws, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 4 14:23:33 2007.

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Requiring the use of recyclable material is quite sensible. There is a market for it and there is a ready supply. And with Fresh Kills shut, the city is out of landfill space. Since the styrofoam has to go somewhere, they ship it out by truck and train to Pennsylvania.



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Re: More insane laws

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 30 12:26:01 2025, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Sep 4 22:53:27 2007.

Wow; can't believe you agreed with me on anything.

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