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Posted by Dand124 on Wed Sep 5 01:52:06 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by AlM on Tue Sep 4 21:09:10 2007. Seat belt laws save taxpayers and insured motorists millions of dollars per year.The solution is to not spend government money on people injured while not wearing seatbelts and allowing insurance companies to charge higher premiums for non-seatbelt wearers not to pass laws restricting freedom. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 5 01:53:07 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 5 00:59:45 2007. I really don't know. My point is that trans fats (or whatever it is the city is banning) are only used because they're cheaper, not because they taste better. I don't care about the health issues because good food is about moderation.Optimally they should have had a law mandating information (a notification about trans fats on the menu) instead of an outright ban. People could then know where trans fats are used and where they aren't and make up their own minds instead of Bloomberg making it up for them. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 5 01:57:28 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Scrabbleship on Tue Sep 4 21:37:16 2007. Communism: Coming soon to an America near you. I wish it was 1983, the year before America went to shitYou really are bucking for the top spot in "OTChat's Dumbest Posts Ever", aintcha. You don't know jack about communism. If you bothered to learn, you'd take an America with no gay marriage, no abortion and no trans fats over any communist state. You'd be dead under communism. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 5 01:58:13 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 4 23:22:26 2007. Nixon went to China and sold out the US to Mao. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 5 01:59:01 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Scrabbleship on Tue Sep 4 23:48:21 2007. Who had the majority for forty years before 1994? You're not good at history, either.It was both parties that were the sellout. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 5 02:06:36 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Dand124 on Wed Sep 5 01:52:06 2007. I would support this provided that there be mandatory education on the risks of not wearing seat belts.This could be part of a mandatory high school driver's ed curriculum. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Sep 5 03:43:12 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 5 00:58:33 2007. I'm talking from a flavor perspective. Trans fat is merely a cheap substitute for better tasting products, like (for me) olive oil or animal fats like butter, lard, or schmalz. All fat carries its set of risks which are minimized by eating them in moderation, something we tend to forget. I don't use hydrogenated oil either. I use extra virgin olive oil for probably 95% of what I cook. It tastes better than other vegetable based oils. It also has a smoke point of around 350 deg so it's suitable for any cooking, including deep frying, if one is so inclined. And yes, pony up the extra dinero for extra virgin as it is markedly better tasting than the regular stuff. I hate to sound like an ad but I can't say enough good about the stuff.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 5 03:49:45 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Fred G on Wed Sep 5 03:43:12 2007. You're right on the money as far as Extra Virgin goes. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 5 03:57:34 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 4 14:32:17 2007. The Mc DLT failed because it sucked. Nothing to do with packaging. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 5 04:01:28 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 5 01:53:07 2007. I want MSG back, then. (And I don't mean the Michael Schenker Group.) |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 5 04:02:05 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Sep 4 21:44:05 2007. >>>>Helmet laws, OTOH actually INCREASES motorcycle accidents,<<<<Proof? Source? |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 5 04:05:08 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by BMTLines on Tue Sep 4 19:17:10 2007. Public schools serve Chinese take-out? When did this start? |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 5 04:16:49 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 5 04:01:28 2007. MSG never left:  |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 5 04:28:53 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 5 04:16:49 2007. Yeah, but you gotta bring it with you. Like you'll have to do with trans fats if you want 'em now . . . |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Sep 5 04:55:45 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 5 04:01:28 2007. Other than some people's allergies to it, there's nothing harmful about MSG.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 5 05:36:26 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Fred G on Wed Sep 5 04:55:45 2007. Same goes for tomatoes and strawberries, among many other foods. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 5 05:36:58 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Scrabbleship on Tue Sep 4 20:42:19 2007. Go eat a tub of hydrogenated fat and call us in the morning. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 5 05:38:33 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 4 21:03:33 2007. When I was a kid, someone tried to trick me into thinking that "nigger" was a synonym for "no" . . . |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 5 07:40:11 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 5 05:36:26 2007. Yes, next they will bad peanuts, tomatoes, strawberries and fish because some people are allergic....Sounds ludicrous? Everytime they take some freedom away, they get closer. |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Wed Sep 5 07:58:44 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 5 07:40:11 2007. And yet people think I'm nuts for thinking America is on the way to communism... |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Sep 5 09:07:32 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Dand124 on Wed Sep 5 01:52:06 2007. The solution is to not spend government money on people injured while not wearing seatbelts and allowing insurance companies to charge higher premiums for non-seatbelt wearers not to pass laws restricting freedom.Fine. Once that law passes I will no longer particularly support laws mandating seat belt use. Until then, I will. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Sep 5 09:10:45 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Sep 4 21:44:05 2007. Helmet laws, OTOH actually INCREASES motorcycle accidents, since riders forced to wear them feel safer and so they take risks on the road a cautious helmet-less rider would never take.If true, that would just be proof that on average motorcycle riders are morons. Are you sure this isn't one of those items about helmet laws increasing neck injuries? The people who used to die now get serious neck injuries in large numbers, not because they are wearing a helmet, but because the helmet shielded them from the massive head injuries that would make the neck injuries unnoticed. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Sep 5 09:15:55 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 5 02:06:36 2007. They already teach that. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Sep 5 09:18:56 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Sep 4 21:44:05 2007. "Helmet laws, OTOH actually INCREASES motorcycle accidents,"Ignorant nonsense. There are riders who complain that the full helnet which covers the ears and side of head and jaw reduces situational awareness by limiting field of view to either side as well as hearing, but crash statistics and results of accident investigations jhave not supported these concerns. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 5 09:27:06 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 5 03:57:34 2007. Yes, I know, but as I was saying, the whole point of it was destroyed when they didn't have the "cold side cold, and the hot side hot" aspect of it anymore when it was just wrapped up like a regular burger. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Sep 5 09:33:47 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Fred G on Wed Sep 5 04:55:45 2007. Other than some people's allergies to it, there's nothing harmful about MSG.High sodium content. Same effect on blood pressure as table salt. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 5 09:34:34 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Scrabbleship on Wed Sep 5 07:58:44 2007. You are nuts. You have no idea what communism is. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Sep 5 09:37:15 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 5 09:27:06 2007. Agreed.The most popular burgers today are real simple: 1. A LOT of MEAT. Half pound or more 2. A LOT of CHEESE (At least two slices, and probably more like 4 slices 3. Bacon 4. Lettuce, tomato. The Monster Thickburger at Hardees is an example. These new burgers make The Big Mac, at 650 calories and, what, 30 grams of fat (mostly saturated fat), looks like a celery snack by comparison. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 5 09:37:42 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by AlM on Wed Sep 5 09:33:47 2007. MSG has 60% less sodium than table salt. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 5 09:38:45 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 5 09:34:34 2007. Watch out he'll wish a stroke on you. |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Wed Sep 5 09:44:13 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 5 09:34:34 2007. State meddling in the lives of its people "for their own good".State thinking they know what's best for the people without their input. A single political party holding sway over an entire to the point that the other party just doesn't compete. Key political races having no opposition. The removal of rights. Mass imprisonment, often for infractions that do not warrent imprisonment. A head of state who does what is good for THEM, not their country, and entered office by dubious means. A small powerful class alongside a large (and increasing) powerless majority. All of this is in America today, and all of this sounds a lot like communism. Sadly, the best part (mistreatment of criminals) isn't in play, thank you 8th Amendment for not letting us wail on rapists. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Wed Sep 5 09:44:52 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by RonInBayside on Wed Sep 5 09:37:15 2007. Agreed.The most popular burgers today are real simple: 1. A LOT of MEAT. Half pound or more 2. A LOT of CHEESE (At least two slices, and probably more like 4 slices 3. Bacon 4. Lettuce, tomato. Before the invention of the "double quarter pounder" I used to make my own by buying two quarter pounders and putting them together - throwing away the top bun of one and the bottom bun of the other. If they ever ban double or triple burgers I will be forced to do it again. There is something about the McDs or BurgerKing burgers that is so good. I hate the taste of home-cooked hamburger or cheeseburger. |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Wed Sep 5 09:46:04 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 5 09:38:45 2007. GET. OVER. IT!!!!! Asshat.Bishop Sheen prayed against Stalin on the old Dumont and it killed Stalin. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 5 09:53:48 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 5 09:38:45 2007. You are to be pitied |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 5 09:54:56 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Scrabbleship on Wed Sep 5 07:58:44 2007. No they think you are nuts for many other reasons, though. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Wed Sep 5 09:55:25 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 5 09:34:34 2007. Technically you are correct if you mean that communism is an economic theory, however I agree with the use of the word "communism" to describe the gradual but steady loss of freedom we are suffering in this country. Virtually every day a law banning one thing or another seems to be passing.I want my FREEDOM back!!! By that I don't just mean the right to vote - we are just voting for the next tyrant who wants to dictate how we live. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Wed Sep 5 10:01:35 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 5 01:53:07 2007. My point is that trans fats (or whatever it is the city is banning) are only used because they're cheaper, not because they taste better.Actually I noticed a change in the taste of McDonald's fries when they don't use trans-fats. They are definitely not the same fries I fell in love with :-( My food choices are extremely taste sensitive and I can detect even minor differences in taste - if I even slightly dislike something I will not eat it. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 5 10:26:28 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by BMTLines on Wed Sep 5 10:01:35 2007. Yes, I agree, I don't know if it's a coincidence or not, but they don't taste as good since the changeover.What the hell is it the government's business if I want to eat 'trans-fat"? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 5 10:27:34 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by BMTLines on Wed Sep 5 09:44:52 2007. I hate the taste of home-cooked hamburger or cheeseburger.Obviously you either don't know how to cook them, or don't use a BBQ ever. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 5 10:30:52 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Scrabbleship on Wed Sep 5 09:44:13 2007. All of this is in America today, and all of this sounds a lot like communism.LOL, it just shows how ignorant you can be about this. Move to Cuba or China and see how much you like it. Obviously, there are things that should be changed or different with certain things here in the United States, but you have no idea how good you have it. You wouldn't have even had the right to even say what you just said in some Communist countries. If it's so bad here, perhaps you should move somewhere else where it's "so much better" |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Wed Sep 5 11:58:29 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 5 10:30:52 2007. There is a "so much better". It is called Western Europe, Japan, and Canada. Sadly, they tax Americans who try to move there making us prisoners in our own nation which is similar to, yes, political communism.There is still freedom, it begins 335 miles from Times Square. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 5 12:04:27 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 5 04:02:05 2007. The liberal media. ABC did a story on this after the Ben Roethlisberger crash last year. If it's online, Google should have some record of it. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 5 12:06:43 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Scrabbleship on Tue Sep 4 21:57:36 2007. We'll just re-elect a new group of dumbasses. And I have no confidence that our next mayor will be any better than Bloomberg, since we've basically become a one-party city. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 5 12:12:56 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 5 12:04:27 2007. So you made the statement, provide a link and back it up. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 5 12:14:28 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 5 12:12:56 2007. Why? I don't much care if you believe it or not. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 5 12:15:49 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 5 12:06:43 2007. And unfortunately, it's the party that leans more towards Nanny Laws. Both parties are responsible, but the Democrats are much worse with that crap. And Bloomberg, was elected as a Republican in name only. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 5 12:17:12 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Scrabbleship on Wed Sep 5 11:58:29 2007. There is a "so much better". It is called Western Europe, Japan, and Canada.THEN GO! Quick!! Before you can't leave, while you still have the freedom to GET OUT! |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 5 12:24:15 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 5 12:14:28 2007. I see making up stuff as usual. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 5 12:26:46 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 5 12:17:12 2007. lol |
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Posted by BMTLines on Wed Sep 5 12:44:13 2007, in response to Re: More insane laws, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 5 04:05:08 2007. Laws like this start with public schools or city offices but it won't be long before it becomes a citywide ban... This crap spreads like a plague. |
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