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CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Feb 18 16:13:30 2026

I CAN AND LEARNED FAST IN THE EARLY 1970s

NOW THEY DONT SELL STICK SHIFT VEHICLES TODAY

RIGHT FOLKS ??



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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Feb 18 16:27:07 2026, in response to CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Feb 18 16:13:30 2026.

If you look hard enough you'll find one. All depends on how much you want to spend

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Feb 18 16:32:42 2026, in response to CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Feb 18 16:13:30 2026.

They're going to start making cars with no steering wheel or pedals.

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Feb 18 16:45:49 2026, in response to CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Feb 18 16:13:30 2026.

Of course!

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Feb 18 17:11:50 2026, in response to CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Feb 18 16:13:30 2026.

My 68 mudtang had 4 on the floor.

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Re: Yes

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 18 17:15:19 2026, in response to CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Feb 18 16:13:30 2026.

Yes.

You can still get Toyota Corollas and Yarises with stick IIRC.

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Feb 18 17:17:36 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Feb 18 16:32:42 2026.

My Tuscon haa the lane maintenance steering and the radar cruise control. If i could only train it to follow the Android Auto map I could really enjoy driving.

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 18 17:25:02 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Feb 18 17:11:50 2026.

What kind of engine?

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Feb 18 17:43:04 2026, in response to CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Feb 18 16:13:30 2026.

Wrong!

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Feb 18 17:45:38 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Feb 18 17:11:50 2026.

My 68 Cougar had 4 on the floor w/289ci V8 & 2bbl carburetor. That bad boy jumped big time. In the 4 years I owned it, Got speeding tickets on the Prospect Expy, Clearview & on the eastbound Belt doing 95 betw Pennsylvania Ave & Cross Bay Blvd. That was a sweet stretch of hwy. w/o trucks. Not much of anybody else especially at 2 AM!...except the man!

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Feb 18 18:37:19 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 18 17:25:02 2026.

It had the 289 with the small carb

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Feb 18 18:38:57 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Feb 18 17:45:38 2026.

They were essentiallynthe same car with different bodies

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Feb 18 18:41:43 2026, in response to CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Feb 18 16:13:30 2026.

In 1972 I drove a rented VW in
London with a left handed stick shift.

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Feb 18 19:50:49 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Feb 18 18:38:57 2026.

I always thought of them as stretched Falcons

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Feb 18 21:28:36 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Feb 18 17:11:50 2026.

I don't know why the image came out so big but this is the sticker I have on both front doors of my 2012 Jeep Wrangler 6 speed manual transmission:



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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Feb 18 21:41:40 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Feb 18 16:32:42 2026.

IAWTP

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Re: Can you drive a stickshift vehicle?

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 18 22:37:56 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Feb 18 19:50:49 2026.

That's what the first generation Mustang was, in effect.

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by AlM on Thu Feb 19 09:28:12 2026, in response to CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Feb 18 16:13:30 2026.

I haven't driven a manual in a long time. But back when, I drove a 3-speed manual with the shifter on the steering column. That was a real pain if you had to stop on a steep hill.

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Feb 19 09:34:02 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by AlM on Thu Feb 19 09:28:12 2026.

"Three on a tree" as it was called.

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Feb 19 10:22:56 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by AlM on Thu Feb 19 09:28:12 2026.

IAWTP

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by Avid reader on Thu Feb 19 10:31:44 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by AlM on Thu Feb 19 09:28:12 2026.

I practiced on my father's '49 Chevy backing in and out of the garage.
I had a '61 Buick Special Automatic that I traded for a '59 Bug when I was in US Army posted at Ft. Sill. It was a 4 on the floor.
In the Army drove a shit load of both automatics and manuals. My favorite was the 3/4 quarter ton straight 6-cylinder 4 speed truck.
It wasn't fast but could go almost anywhere.

Once separated from the army I had a string of VW's 4 speeds starting with a Karmin Chia until the Diesels VWs with 4's and 5's manuals.

Always better mileage!!

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Feb 19 11:31:58 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by AlM on Thu Feb 19 09:28:12 2026.

That was a real pain if you had to stop on a steep hill.

That depends on the location of the parking brake. The technique is to hold the car with the parking brake. Then you can start by placing the car in 1st and simultaneously easing up on the clutch, easing onto the accelerator and releasing the parking brake. This technique keeps both feet free for acceleration.

I'm still not shiftless.

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Feb 19 12:33:46 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by AlM on Thu Feb 19 09:28:12 2026.

If you have to touch the wheel and brake pedal, it's a manual imo.

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Feb 19 12:54:00 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by AlM on Thu Feb 19 09:28:12 2026.

Only when you're just learning. After a while you can learn to use the clutch and the gas to not roll back.

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Feb 19 12:57:17 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Feb 19 11:31:58 2026.

I've never used the parking brake to avoid rolling back. If you ease up on the clutch while releasing the accelerator perfectly you'll never roll back. Just need some practice.

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Feb 19 13:13:47 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Feb 18 16:32:42 2026.

Last October I was in Vegas and while driving through the city in a rented car I noticed a Waymo in front of us. No controls at all, the front seat was facing toward the rear seat. (sort of like the Wonder Wheel) It had it's right directional lights on and then made a right at the intersection. It just looked really weird.

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by AlM on Thu Feb 19 14:18:21 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Feb 19 12:57:17 2026.

I wouldn't try that on a steep hill if I were you.



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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by AlM on Thu Feb 19 14:19:40 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Feb 19 11:31:58 2026.

Yeah, this car still had a parking brake that you could release gradually. And you describe the technique precisely. But it was still a pain.



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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by AlM on Thu Feb 19 14:20:23 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Feb 19 12:54:00 2026.

I could do it without rolling back. I just didn't like doing it.



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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 19 17:26:28 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Feb 19 13:13:47 2026.

I saw a Waymo on the West Side Highway in December, but they're only testing, not carrying passengers. Coincidentally, I was in my own robot car.

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Feb 19 18:33:51 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Feb 19 12:54:00 2026.

Speaking from experience, When you are learning, not working the clutch and gas to the right friction point on a hill leaves you prone to stalling. Glad I had a good battery!

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Feb 20 06:48:26 2026, in response to CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Feb 18 16:13:30 2026.

Absolutely I can. Taught myself on a ‘58 VW in the early 1990s.
I own 6 cars but none are manual.

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Feb 20 11:03:13 2026, in response to CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Feb 18 16:13:30 2026.

I can and I have. I find it unnecessarily complicated and inconvenient in NYC and LI traffic conditions. Its great if you live in a place with a lot of open roads. Not on the BQE.

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by jan k. lorenzen on Fri Feb 20 11:29:48 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Feb 20 11:03:13 2026.

My daily driver from 1985 to 1999 was a 64 Impala 283 with three on the tree. I drove it to JFK every workday, first on Atlantic Ave from where I lived in Clinton Hill til 92, then on the BQE/LIE/Van Wyck when I lived in Williamsburg. The traffic on the Van Wyck northbound was basically run in 2nd gear, using the clutch to engage/disengage to keep up with the slow moving traffic. My left leg got a work out. I also made sure the column shift mechanism was in good shape with new bushings every few years, but it did get temporarily stuck between 1st and 2nd every once in while. The 3 speed transmission in this car was the last year with no synchro 1st and reverse, so I tried to use that only from a dead stop or close to it to keep from grinding it. I put 150K miles on it, sold it with 215K. One engine rebuild at 125K due oil consumption. Tiny manual drum brakes and becoming more and overall more fragile made me replace it with a 98 Lumina LTZ (basically a police spec with fancy rims). I miss the Impala, but not dealing with the NYC traffic with such old technology. I was young.

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Feb 20 11:33:51 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by jan k. lorenzen on Fri Feb 20 11:29:48 2026.

A ‘64 impala didn’t have a synchro for first gear ?

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Feb 20 11:34:43 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Feb 20 11:03:13 2026.

I understand your point but it never bothered me?

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Re: Can you drive a stickshift vehicle?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 20 13:08:01 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Feb 20 11:03:13 2026.

I never found any difference between stick and automatic while driving in traffic.

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Re: Can you drive a stickshift vehicle?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 20 13:11:08 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Feb 20 11:33:51 2026.

The three-on-the-tree stick did not have synchromesh first gear. The four-on-the-floor Muncie did.

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Re: Can you drive a stickshift vehicle?

Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Feb 20 14:38:12 2026, in response to Re: Can you drive a stickshift vehicle?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 20 13:11:08 2026.

Okay
That’s so antiquated for the 60s

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Re: Can you drive a stickshift vehicle?

Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 20 15:18:15 2026, in response to Re: Can you drive a stickshift vehicle?, posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Feb 20 14:38:12 2026.

That’s so antiquated for the 60s

The car with 3 on the tree (never heard that phrase myself) I sometimes drove in the 60s was a Ford Falcon, I believe. It also didn't let you downshift into first gear. Awful for stop and go traffic as well as for a steepening hill.






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Re: Can you drive a stickshift vehicle?

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Feb 20 15:24:22 2026, in response to Re: Can you drive a stickshift vehicle?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 20 13:08:01 2026.

Once upon a time I got stuck in traffic on the West Side Highway (stop & go) driving a stick shift car and when I got to where I was going, my left leg had a severe case of muscle fatigue.

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Re: Can you drive a stickshift vehicle?

Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Feb 20 16:21:53 2026, in response to Re: Can you drive a stickshift vehicle?, posted by AlM on Fri Feb 20 15:18:15 2026.

I’m surprised you never heard 3 on the tree.
Most of knowledge goes back to VWs. The first gear synchro was introduced in 1961. It seemed like VW was far behind the times in that regard. But I suppose not now with this information.

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by jan k. lorenzen on Fri Feb 20 16:48:02 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Feb 20 11:33:51 2026.

The first year for the manual 3 speed with all synchros on the Chevy was 1965. To keep from grinding first gear from a standing start, put the shift lever into 2nd, then down into 1st, goes in smooth then. It pains me when I watch yootube vids of test drives of older Chevys with 3 speeds and the drivers ggrrrrrrrrind into first.

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by jan k. lorenzen on Fri Feb 20 16:49:46 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Feb 20 11:33:51 2026.

The first year for the manual 3 speed with all synchros on the Chevy was 1965. To keep from grinding first gear from a standing start, put the shift lever into 2nd, then down into 1st, goes in smooth then. It pains me when I watch yootube vids of test drives of older Chevys with 3 speeds and the drivers ggrrrrrrrrind into first.

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Re: Can you drive a stickshift vehicle?

Posted by jan k. lorenzen on Fri Feb 20 17:08:52 2026, in response to Re: Can you drive a stickshift vehicle?, posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Feb 20 16:21:53 2026.

The very early VW Type 1's up to 1952 and Kubelwagens didn't have syncro's in any gear, requiring double clutching just for regular up and downshifting.

The Type 1 bus finally got all synchro's a few years later.

The VW enthusiast's site says the old crashbox transmissions continued to be made for non-US market budget priced VW's for a number of years after that (cheaper to build).

Some Chrysler products and AMC Hornets and Gremlins had non-synchro 1st gears in 3 speeds until the 70's.

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Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??

Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Feb 20 18:17:53 2026, in response to Re: CAN YOU DRIVE A STICK SHIFT VEHICLE ??, posted by jan k. lorenzen on Fri Feb 20 16:48:02 2026.

I can imagine

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Re: Can you drive a stickshift vehicle?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 21 02:20:56 2026, in response to Re: Can you drive a stickshift vehicle?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Feb 20 15:24:22 2026.

Did you have one of those 1970s cars with heavy clutches? The clutch pedal got a lot easier to push down over the years.

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Re: Can you drive a stickshift vehicle?

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Feb 21 06:49:51 2026, in response to Re: Can you drive a stickshift vehicle?, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 21 02:20:56 2026.

Did you have one of those 1970s cars with heavy clutches? The clutch pedal got a lot easier to push down over the years.

There's something called a centrifugal clutch. The clutch plate has weights along radii in a circular pattern. They are pushed towards the enter by springs. As the clutch rotates faster because the car is moving faster, the weights move outward. This increases its moment of inertia, making it more difficult to move it - i.e. more difficult to push down on the pedal. OTOH, when the engine is idling or the accelerator is released, weights are pushed inward by the springs and the moment of inertia is a lot less. This makes it easier to push down on the pedal.

It's been around since at least the 1950's. My '54 Ford had one.

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Re: Can you drive a stickshift vehicle?

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Feb 21 09:19:24 2026, in response to Re: Can you drive a stickshift vehicle?, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 21 02:20:56 2026.

No. I was driving a 1985 Toyota Tercel w/4 speed manual at the time. It wasn't so much as clutch pedal resistance, it was the repetition that got to me over the space of an hour plus. My '68 Cougar had a "heavy" clutch.

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