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Posted by Sand Box John on Wed Jun 16 23:16:53 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 16 22:02:56 2021. Racist post.Never mind that the word Ebonics was coined "by a group of black scholars". Your calling out racist fall into the same category as Paul Shanklin's parody "Barack the Magic Negro" inspired by Los Angeles Times black columnist David Ehrenstein. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jun 16 23:18:26 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jun 16 14:20:59 2021. I DID NOT SAY ANYTHING |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jun 16 23:18:57 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 16 15:36:23 2021. YEP |
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Re: Salaam just said the N word. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jun 16 23:20:20 2021, in response to Re: Salaam just said the N word., posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 16 15:37:28 2021. NO YOU |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 16 23:48:59 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 16 22:02:56 2021. How is it racist per se? Is it racist for saying that English is a bastardized version of Anflo Saxon, and so on? Of course not! You liberals weaken the word when you accused everyone and everything of being "racist", when in fact, it's not. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 16 23:50:44 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by pragmatist on Wed Jun 16 22:02:34 2021. But the problem is that no one is responsible for what their ancestors did.No all the way down |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 16 23:51:12 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 16 22:00:36 2021. That was never a "real thing". |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jun 16 23:54:43 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 16 15:36:10 2021. IDWYP |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 17 00:28:34 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jun 16 23:18:57 2021. Nope |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Jun 17 02:10:30 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 16 17:23:00 2021. I think everybody’s saying that including black folks. It’s a nice gesture but it’s just fluff. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Jun 17 02:29:46 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 16 23:51:12 2021. it was a real thing |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jun 17 03:06:39 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Fred G on Thu Jun 17 02:29:46 2021. My point is General Sherman could not make that promise to the slaves in the first place. He could SAY whatever he wants, and procure land, but he could never implement it. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Jun 17 08:10:28 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jun 17 03:06:39 2021. Fair point, it wasn’t an act of Congress or anything like that. On the other hand it was enacted against a foreign country at the time. They haven’t been pulled back into the fold yet |
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Posted by pragmatist on Thu Jun 17 09:00:24 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 16 23:50:44 2021. I'm still waiting on my check from the Egyptians... |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Jun 17 09:33:49 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Fred G on Thu Jun 17 08:10:28 2021. Fair point, it wasn’t an act of Congress or anything like that. On the other hand it was enacted against a foreign country at the time. They hadn’t been pulled back into the fold yet |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 17 10:44:06 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Sand Box John on Wed Jun 16 23:16:53 2021. It doesn’t matter how it was invented, it has negative connotations now. The term is AAVE for African-American Vernacular English. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jun 17 10:53:07 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Fred G on Thu Jun 17 02:10:30 2021. It also allows schmuck schumer to say that he's accomished something . |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jun 17 11:00:17 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jun 17 10:53:07 2021. Schmuck needs to be thrown out, bag and baggage. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jun 17 11:01:11 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jun 17 11:00:17 2021. I STRONGLY AGREE WITH THAT SENTIMENT |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jun 17 11:24:06 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jun 17 11:00:17 2021. Well, you can find out when he's up for re-election and do your part. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jun 17 11:29:18 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 17 10:44:06 2021. I’ve noticed that many white people are very judgmental of various linguistic differences and accents involving the English language when it comes to non-white people, and especially when it’s AAVE. Cockney is an example of an English variation that is about the same deviation from standard English as AAVE (maybe more), yet I’ve heard white Americans say that people speaking it “sound smart”. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Thu Jun 17 11:33:02 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by AlM on Thu Jun 17 11:24:06 2021. Many of the people who strongly dislike him are not NY voters, what they think is meaningless. Other than his first senate run against D'Amato his senate races have not been close at all. Maybe if the Republicans found a real candidate, it might be a race. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jun 17 11:42:47 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Easy on Thu Jun 17 11:29:18 2021. I must say I personally don't care how people talk to each other. If I'm in a store and two people are talking to each other, whether in a dialect of English or a foreign language, that's fine.I do care how they talk to me. I am very annoyed if I buy something from a company and their customer service doesn't speak English well enough for me to communicate with them effectively. I also think that it's very important for residents of the United States to be able to speak understandable English when they need to, totally irrespective of any conversation they might have with me. Otherwise, their job prospects are seriously diminshed. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jun 17 11:44:55 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by pragmatist on Thu Jun 17 11:33:02 2021. But Mitch is a NY voter and does have a voice.I doubt NY residents are likely to vote for Moscow Mitch for majority leader of the Senate, but he could register Democratic and try to get a more moderate Democrat nominated. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 17 11:45:13 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by pragmatist on Thu Jun 17 11:33:02 2021. Maybe if we adopted a California primary. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jun 17 11:48:27 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jun 16 14:20:59 2021. STFU NAZI KKK MEMBER OF STORMFRONT !!! |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jun 17 11:53:16 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 17 00:28:34 2021. YEP |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jun 17 12:12:45 2021, in response to Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jun 16 08:26:30 2021. USA TODAYWho are the 14 House Republicans who voted against a Juneteenth holiday? And why? Wed, June 16, 2021, 8:04 PM WASHINGTON — Legislation to recognize June 19, or "Juneteenth," as a federal holiday passed overwhelmingly in the House of Representatives Wednesday. The bill passed unanimously in the Senate on Tuesday. Senate Bill 475, the "Juneteenth National Independence Day Act", passed with 415-14 votes. The bill recognizes June 19, 1865, the day enslaved people in Galveston, Texas learned slavery was ended, as a public holiday. President Abraham Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation had freed all enslaved African Americans in rebel states two and a half years earlier. The bill now heads to President Joe Biden's desk to be signed into law. The 14 no votes were all from Republican members of Congress. They include: Rep. Mo Brooks, R-Ala. Rep. Andy Biggs, R-Ariz. Rep. Scott DesJarlais, R-Tenn. Rep. Tom Tiffany, R-Wis. Rep. Doug LaMalfa, R-Calif. Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Ala. Rep. Ralph Norman, R-S.C. Rep. Chip Roy, R-Texas Rep. Paul Gosar, R-Ariz. Rep. Tom McClintock, R-Calif. Rep. Matt Rosendale, R-Mont. Rep. Ronny Jackson, R-Texas Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Ky. Rep. Andrew Clyde, R-Ga. Several of those representatives shared why they were voting against the bill. Rep. Ronny Jackson, R-Texas, told USA TODAY he thinks there are enough federal holidays. "We have enough federal holidays right now. I just don't see the reason in doing it," he said. "I don't think it rises to the level I'm going to support it." Republican Montana Rep. Matt Rosendale released a statement on his vote against S.B. 475. “Let’s call an ace an ace. This is an effort by the Left to create a day out of whole cloth to celebrate identity politics as part of its larger efforts to make Critical Race Theory the reigning ideology of our country. Since I believe in treating everyone equally, regardless of race, and that we should be focused on what unites us rather than our differences, I will vote no,” Rosendale said. Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Ky., argued that referring to Juneteenth as a national independence day would confuse people. "I fully support creating a day to celebrate the abolition of slavery, a dark portion of our nation's history. However, naming this day 'national independence day' will create confusion and push Americans to pick one of those two days as their independence day based on their racial identity," Massie said on the House floor. "Why can't we name this 'emancipation day' and come together as Americans and celebrate that day together as Americans?" Rep. Chip Roy, R-Texas, also objected to the name of the bill. "Juneteenth should be commemorated as the expression of the realization of the end of slavery in the United States - and I commend those who worked for its passage," Roy said in a statement. "I could not vote for this bill, however, because the holiday should not be called 'Juneteenth National Independence Day' but rather, 'Juneteenth National Emancipation [or Freedom or otherwise] Day.' This name needlessly divides our nation on a matter that should instead bring us together by creating a separate Independence Day based on the color of one’s skin," he said. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported Rep. Andrew Clyde, the only member of the Georgia delegation to vote no, declined to answer a reporter's question about his vote. This article originally appeared on USA TODAY |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 17 12:19:50 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by pragmatist on Thu Jun 17 09:00:24 2021. PWN3D!But remember, Israelite slaves (or Israelites of any kind) didn’t build the pyramids, which were already over 1000 years old. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jun 17 12:19:54 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Fred G on Thu Jun 17 02:10:30 2021. It also allows schmuck schumer to say that he's accomished something . |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 17 12:24:45 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Sand Box John on Wed Jun 16 22:34:42 2021. There's that too. Open up a can of worms, and you need a bigger can, etc. |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 17 12:27:37 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jun 17 12:12:45 2021. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jun 17 12:28:59 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 17 12:27:37 2021. FIGURES |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 17 12:30:16 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jun 17 12:28:59 2021. WHAT ?????????????????? |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 17 12:30:32 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jun 17 11:53:16 2021. Nope |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 17 12:31:10 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jun 16 23:54:43 2021. Of course |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jun 17 12:31:11 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jun 17 12:12:45 2021. 14 honorobale Americans. Rep. Chip Roy is correct. I am all for commemorating those who worked to eradicate slavery in the United States, but it is not an Independence Day. |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 17 12:31:43 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jun 17 12:31:11 2021. WOW!! IAWTLP |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jun 17 12:34:28 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 17 12:30:32 2021. YEP |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jun 17 12:34:47 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 17 12:31:10 2021. IDWYP |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 17 12:37:02 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jun 17 12:34:28 2021. nope |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 17 12:37:19 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jun 17 12:34:47 2021. whatever |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jun 17 12:47:08 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 17 12:37:02 2021. YEP |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jun 17 12:47:19 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 17 12:37:19 2021. K |
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Posted by pragmatist on Thu Jun 17 12:58:57 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by AlM on Thu Jun 17 11:44:55 2021. A Republican can get elected, we have had plenty of them as Senator or Governor in NY. But not not running on a platform that runs squarely against what a majority of NY voters support. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jun 17 13:09:17 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by pragmatist on Thu Jun 17 12:58:57 2021. Governor is easier to imagine than Senator. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Thu Jun 17 13:18:58 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by AlM on Thu Jun 17 13:09:17 2021. DAmato served 3 terms, preceded by Javits 4 terms, and Keating was Senator for a term also. Sadly, too many people today condemn longtime Republicans who refuse to sell out what they have always stood for, and won't pledge allegiance to someone who became a Republican out of convenience. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jun 17 13:26:27 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by AlM on Thu Jun 17 11:42:47 2021. To me the word “Juneteenth” is similar to “Christmas”. Neither are standard today, but because Juneteenth was coined by black Americans 150 years ago, it gets singled out as unacceptable. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jun 17 13:34:20 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by pragmatist on Thu Jun 17 11:33:02 2021. Other than his first senate run against D'Amato his senate races have not been close at all.Schumer's victory margin was 10% over D'Amato. By contrast, Trump's popular vote margin over Clinton was -2%. That was a landslide. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Thu Jun 17 13:44:06 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jun 17 13:34:20 2021. He received a little over 54 %, as opposed to 60s and 70s since then.... |
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