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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 17 14:03:36 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jun 17 12:47:08 2021.

nope

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jun 17 14:09:45 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 17 14:03:36 2021.

YEP

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 17 14:10:16 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jun 17 14:09:45 2021.

nope


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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jun 17 14:10:33 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 17 14:10:16 2021.

YEP

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 17 14:30:50 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jun 17 12:31:11 2021.

Those people are all fascist traitors. Not because of this vote, though.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 17 14:31:44 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by pragmatist on Thu Jun 17 13:18:58 2021.

Ancient history.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 17 14:32:08 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Easy on Thu Jun 17 13:26:27 2021.

Excellent analogy.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by AlM on Thu Jun 17 14:34:00 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 17 14:32:08 2021.

Yes, indeed!

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by AlM on Thu Jun 17 14:37:17 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by pragmatist on Thu Jun 17 13:18:58 2021.

Keating, Javits, and D'Amato voted for Senate Majority Leader candidates whose stated intention was NOT to make the then-current president a one-term president. The stated intention of the current Republican leadership is to make Biden a half-term president. Enough new Yorkers understand this to make a Republican Senator almost inconceivable.

For governor, this impediment would not exist.



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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jun 17 14:45:10 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Easy on Thu Jun 17 11:29:18 2021.

I would NEVER want Cockney being used for anything official as well. It's ignorant.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jun 17 14:46:49 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Easy on Thu Jun 17 13:26:27 2021.

I agree as well, however, June Nineteenth is being enacted in 2021, when we all know better.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 17 14:51:46 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Easy on Thu Jun 17 11:29:18 2021.

“June” is a corruption of “IVNIVS,” pronounced “Yoo-nee-oos”

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Jun 17 15:00:55 2021, in response to Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jun 16 08:26:30 2021.

signed

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Are dee em on Thu Jun 17 18:16:53 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Jun 17 15:00:55 2021.

Can we get on with this? Does anyone think that this group of pusillanimous politicians voting in lock step really give two shits about this Holiday? Watching the way the wind blows and coming down on the right side is so much more important. We truly are the saps.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Allan on Thu Jun 17 18:30:46 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Jun 17 15:00:55 2021.

I wonder how a lot of BIG businesses will react to this (another Federal paid day off).

During the years I was with Chase (1974 - 2008), in the beginning we had Election Day off as a fully paid holiday. I believe that a new Federal holiday was added (I think it was MLK's birthday) big businesses (not just Chase) took away Election Day as a paid holiday.

I also recall that we also used to get Lincoln's birthday and Washington's birthday as Federal holiday's. Now all people get is Presidents Day.

So you get a new Federal holiday but you might lose some other day (and now Manchin wants to make Election Day a Federal holiday).






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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jun 17 18:38:08 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Allan on Thu Jun 17 18:30:46 2021.

Lincoln's Birthday was NEVER a federal holiday. It was a state holiday in a number of states including NY

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jun 17 18:43:00 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jun 17 18:38:08 2021.

NYCT used to treat it a holiday that you got an extra day's pay but didn't get the day off.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Allan on Thu Jun 17 18:43:57 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jun 17 18:38:08 2021.

Nevertheless, it was lost as a paid holiday because there were too many paid holidays for big businesses to allow.

I now remember that we were given 10 paid holidays (state and federal combined).

It has been so long, are there still only 10 given?

I realize it can vary from state to state and other factors.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Allan on Thu Jun 17 18:45:29 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jun 17 18:43:00 2021.

That is a nice way to do that.




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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jun 17 19:00:53 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by pragmatist on Wed Jun 16 22:02:34 2021.

I'm sure there are some traceable descendants, but any effort to figure out realistic numbers is futile. So many people have come into the country since then, and marriages across succeeding generations likely results in today's population having miniscule percentages of slave lineage. The greatest majority of the population have no traceable roots to that era, either as slave owners, or even as residents of the country.

LMAO at this nonsensical conjecture!! It's crazy how misinformed sentiments like this prevail in an era where we all have access to devices that can give us lifetimes of knowledge within seconds at our fingertips.

The first census took place in 1790. There were censuses done in 1870, 1880, and 1890 that most African-American descendants of slaves show up on. As long as one of your parents is an African-American descendant of slaves, then you have a claim for reparations. Anyone who doesn't claim their American ancestry can take that up with the government of whatever country's ancestry they do claim, it's that simple.

No traceable roots? False. Plantation owners were actually really good at keeping record of their “inventory”, and those very same records are accessible to this day at libraries and museums across America. The Mormon church in L.A. has a whole section dedicated to helping African-American descendants of slaves find their ancestors.

Mormon church to make available records of 4 million freed slaves

Do you think people who may have had ancestors that died fighting against slavery should bear any financial responsibility.

Lol! If a mother died with debt, America would come after her children or estate. America is one of the most frivolous countries in the world when it comes to collecting debt of all facets no matter old that debt may be, but refuses to pay what is maybe its biggest and oldest debt, and has every excuse in the book why it won't, can't, and shouldn't.

Do we owe money to any of the other groups who suffered under racial and ethnic discrimination they endured?

America felt that Jewish people, Japanese people, and Native Americans did, and they all got paid, now it's time for African-American descendants of slaves to get that same piece of the pie.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jun 17 19:06:35 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 16 23:50:44 2021.

Slavery, Lynchings, Jim Crow, the "War on Drugs", systemic racism, etc. It's rather obtuse to even attempt to detract from the disadvantages that come with being black in today's America.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Fred G on Thu Jun 17 19:07:44 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jun 17 19:06:35 2021.

Good post.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jun 17 19:08:28 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 16 22:00:36 2021.

Unfortunately that wouldn't have matter. Look at the Tulsa massacre, or the countless amount of highways in this country that were paved over thriving black communities.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jun 17 19:15:05 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jun 17 19:08:28 2021.

IAWTP

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jun 17 19:41:48 2021, in response to Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jun 16 08:26:30 2021.

I hope when the bill lands on his desk, bumbolini signs in the right place with the right name

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jun 17 20:34:20 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jun 17 18:43:00 2021.

That's because it was a state holiday.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 17 22:16:03 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jun 17 18:38:08 2021.

Thank you for dispelling that myth.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 17 22:31:08 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jun 17 19:08:28 2021.

I think it would have. There were black-run state governments during reconstruction until terrorist traitors overthrew them.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by ntrainride on Fri Jun 18 00:25:56 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 16 17:30:02 2021.

"sheeeeeit, 'cos we's igarant"

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by ntrainride on Fri Jun 18 00:42:42 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Jun 16 21:36:56 2021.

funny how only poor lazy dumb black people think such a racist idea is worth more than, say, a dog turd in the gutter.

american blacks of even modest success want no part of this hatred. only poor lazy dumb blacks even think about it.

you think blacks have it bad now? keep pushing this jerk off idea. it will start a REAL race war. you wanna see that?

the end results won't be good for blacks. y'all got nowhere else to go. because, spoiler alert: most poor folk around the world HATE american blacks who waste the opportunities they have in this country.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 18 01:15:59 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by ntrainride on Fri Jun 18 00:42:42 2021.

😂😂😂 Why oh why did I take this place so seriously when I was younger?

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 18 01:18:02 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by ntrainride on Fri Jun 18 00:42:42 2021.

WTF ?????????????????????

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 18 01:18:32 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jun 17 19:06:35 2021.

IAWTP

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 18 01:26:39 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 17 22:31:08 2021.

I guess we'll never know, but I'm more on the fatalistic side of things as it pertains to that.

If you look at the history that we do know though, even though some black economic centers still exist, many were lost due to imperialistic pillaging and the contemptible implementation of shifty policies like eminent domain.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 18 02:42:25 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jun 17 19:00:53 2021.

The last paragraph, what did they get paid?

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 18 02:46:34 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jun 17 19:06:35 2021.

A good 85% or more of those problems (which hapen to EVERYONE I might add), disappear if people obeyed the law and respected other people.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 18 02:46:53 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Fred G on Thu Jun 17 19:07:44 2021.

It was a killa!

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 18 03:38:03 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 18 01:15:59 2021.

Why oh why did I take this place so seriously when I was younger?

Don't feel bad. Real life reflects Otchat. This board inspired it's own energy drink.




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Juneteenth Official

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 18 19:38:11 2021, in response to Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jun 16 08:26:30 2021.



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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Jun 18 20:11:24 2021, in response to Juneteenth Official, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 18 19:38:11 2021.

Lord Have Mercy

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by rkba on Fri Jun 18 20:33:18 2021, in response to Juneteenth Official, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 18 19:38:11 2021.

the official day of "give me yo money whitey."

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Jun 18 20:37:24 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by rkba on Fri Jun 18 20:33:18 2021.

Yep.

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by rkba on Fri Jun 18 20:39:29 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Jun 18 20:37:24 2021.

the concept of reparations would be hilarious if it weren't so dumb.

people who were never slaves in states that never had slavery want money from people who never owned slaves.

white bad, nonwhite good, money printer go brrrrrr.

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by Easy on Fri Jun 18 21:05:35 2021, in response to Juneteenth Official, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 18 19:38:11 2021.

Nah. The leader of the Republican Party wanted to forcefully send black Americans to Africa. At the end of the day, they were white supremacists then as they are now. Same for Democrats.

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 18 21:13:44 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by rkba on Fri Jun 18 20:33:18 2021.

KKK NAZI < YOU

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 18 21:14:06 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by rkba on Fri Jun 18 20:39:29 2021.

KKK NAZI < YOU

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 18 21:14:35 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Jun 18 20:37:24 2021.

NOPE

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 18 21:15:17 2021, in response to Juneteenth Official, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 18 19:38:11 2021.

BULLSHIT

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 18 21:15:36 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by Easy on Fri Jun 18 21:05:35 2021.

IAWTP

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 18 21:18:41 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 18 21:15:17 2021.

Agreed, but to THE Olog's credit, the plump Cheeto did say that he was considering making Juneteenth a holiday before he lost.

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