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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Feb 17 03:47:07 2020, in response to Re: COVID-19 updates, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Feb 17 02:43:02 2020. Also regarding income inequality - the way we approach raises guarantees it.Picture two employees performing different jobs at the same company. Employee A earns 50k, Employee B earns 100k. The company announces a 2% cost of living raise for all staff. Now, Employee A earns 51k and B earns 102k. The income gap between A and B also increased by 2%! This can be solved if, for example, you average the employee salaries together, take 2% of that average, and issue that as a flat raise. The company is spending the exact same additional amount of money either way, but the income gap has not increased. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Feb 17 08:42:59 2020, in response to Re: COVID-19 updates, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Feb 17 02:43:02 2020. The top 1% pay 39% of the taxes while only receiving 20% of the income, best not to piss them off.The benefit to the economy of the top 1% or 0.1% income earners should be measured by their share of tax revenue. It should be measured by their contribution to the GDP - the amount of goods and services purchased. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Feb 17 10:17:42 2020, in response to Re: COVID-19 updates, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Feb 17 03:42:14 2020. Look at what happens when we try to copy European style high speed rail.Europe is more densely populated, giving rise to a bigger customer base per mile of track, and the density is urban. So the area between big cities, where much of the money for HSR needs to be spent, is actually often less dense than in the US. Europe doesn't have as many Stamfords, Norwalks, San Fernando Valleys, etc. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Feb 17 10:19:43 2020, in response to Re: COVID-19 updates, posted by AlM on Mon Feb 17 10:17:42 2020. what the fuck does density have to do with how much I need to get to the next city over?Doesn't matter if I am in a condo or a 5 bedroom house, I still gotta go. Does density matter for airports? |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Feb 17 10:58:47 2020, in response to Re: COVID-19 updates, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Feb 17 10:19:43 2020. Sigh.The ROW cost of HSR is pretty much the same, whether it is used by a million passengers a year or 10 million. And yes, density matters for airports too. How many places to you think you can fly to directly from Utica, NY, as compared to LGA? |
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Posted by 3-9 on Mon Feb 17 13:15:13 2020, in response to Re: COVID-19 updates, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Feb 17 03:47:07 2020. That huge, incorrect assumption about how raises work. You're assuming that everybody gets the same increases, which is not what happened. Hence the reason why the top 1% saw a 157% increase, whereas the lowest 10% saw a 4.1% increase in real income. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Mon Feb 17 13:30:15 2020, in response to Re: COVID-19 updates, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Feb 17 02:43:02 2020. Income inequality is not meaningless just because there's a little narrowing in the gap. Living costs have far outstripped all those increases the lower and middle classes have gotten, and they're fed up with it.As for environmental regulation, it was already insufficient. Plus every time a Democratic president added regulations, a Republican president would roll them back, resulting in net zero progress at best. Greta Thunberg is merely giving voice to the frustration towards that lack of progress and is an example of why I said how extremists are getting more popular. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Feb 18 00:06:06 2020, in response to Re: COVID-19 updates, posted by AlM on Mon Feb 17 10:17:42 2020. That pretty much proves my point though. What works somewhere else doesn't always work here, for reasons that aren't immediately obvious.Though to counter your point about dense vs sparse: it's easier to establish a high speed ROW through sparse areas than urban ones, so if anything it should be cheaper to construct. Texas and CAHSR both fit this bill, and the private vs public debate will be settled when we see which (if either of these projects) takes the first paying customer between its endpoint cities. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 18 00:41:52 2020, in response to Re: COVID-19 updates, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Feb 18 00:06:06 2020. Texas might work, but the problem with the United States is that the largest cities don’t have empty space between them. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 18 00:42:17 2020, in response to Re: COVID-19 updates, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 18 00:41:52 2020. Largest cities outside of Texas, I mean. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Feb 18 09:51:37 2020, in response to Re: COVID-19 updates, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 18 00:41:52 2020. The I-5 corridor along the west side of the Central Valley in CA is tolerably empty for many miles. The trouble of course is the endless suburbs and the mountains. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 18 10:27:58 2020, in response to Re: COVID-19 updates, posted by AlM on Tue Feb 18 09:51:37 2020. But it’s still occupied for an inconvenient distance towards the cities. In Europe, HSR lines eventually merge with conventional rail lines to enter a city. Increase the distance that HSR has to merge with conventional rail lines and it defeats much of the purpose. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Feb 18 10:49:24 2020, in response to Re: COVID-19 updates, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 18 10:27:58 2020. Yes, that's what I mean by CA cities having endless suburbs.Downtown LA to Victorville is a long way. And the route north out of LA on I-5 has even worse mountains and no rail line. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 18 11:09:57 2020, in response to Re: COVID-19 updates, posted by AlM on Tue Feb 18 10:49:24 2020. Of course, they could also build a San Gabriel Base Tunnel to solve that problem.This wouldn’t be the same as though, as the Central Valley is still at a notably higher elevation than the LA basin, so such a tunnel would have a continuous incline, and it would still open into already developed Palmdale. It would cost billions, so better to spend that on tanks and aircraft carriers. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Feb 18 12:21:51 2020, in response to Re: COVID-19 updates, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 18 11:09:57 2020. Yes, the right answer for HSR is a San Gabriel Base Tunnel. But that would be part of what makes HSR in CA expensive. And you also have to pay to run the line through the San Fernando Valley.And western Europe where HSR is prevalent doesn't have those types of mountains. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 18 12:44:32 2020, in response to Re: COVID-19 updates, posted by AlM on Tue Feb 18 12:21:51 2020. You can minimize the need to build to the tunnel by building the tunnel to Burbank. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Feb 18 14:21:31 2020, in response to Re: COVID-19 updates, posted by AlM on Tue Feb 18 12:21:51 2020. OK, I personally don't mind occasional on-topic posts on the off topic board but this is also a NY based site. Enough with the California shit. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 18 14:23:10 2020, in response to Re: COVID-19 updates, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Feb 18 14:21:31 2020. I don't agree that it is. It is primarily NY-based, but we can talk about rail from other places. I, for one, like the foreign rail discussions. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Feb 18 14:30:19 2020, in response to Re: COVID-19 updates, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Feb 18 14:21:31 2020. I deeply apologize for going off from the off-topic nature of this board. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Feb 18 15:24:29 2020, in response to Re: COVID-19 updates, posted by AlM on Tue Feb 18 14:30:19 2020. You take your suppository yet today? |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Feb 18 17:02:51 2020, in response to Re: COVID-19 updates, posted by AlM on Tue Feb 18 14:30:19 2020. That's OK, my post was basically in jest, like 95% of my posts. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Feb 19 17:10:46 2020, in response to Corona virus updates, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Feb 13 09:36:36 2020. Food for thought, yesterday, 02/18/2020 while driving in my 2005 VW, I was tuned to 1010 WINS, the all news station.They reported that Chinatown was seeing a 70-& drop off in business since the Corona Virus flare up world wide. The reporter said there was nothing to be concerned about, and New Yorker's should return to Chinatown and support their neighbors. Hmmm, I wonder, is the drop off warranted? |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Thu Feb 20 09:19:23 2020, in response to Re: Corona virus updates, posted by Avid Reader on Wed Feb 19 17:10:46 2020. The Princess Plague ship off of Japan has had Israeli victims go to hospitals in Japan.I Feel that ship should be boarded, and put on a stricter isolation for EVERYONE'S protection. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Feb 24 18:18:11 2020, in response to Corona virus updates, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Feb 13 09:36:36 2020. The Senate will get a briefing on the coronavirus tomorrow.The disturbing thing? It's classified. Why should such a presentation be classified, unless things are worse than is generally known? |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Feb 24 18:48:13 2020, in response to Re: Corona virus updates, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Feb 24 18:18:11 2020. Why should such a presentation be classifiedBecause the US intelligence agencies, despite all attempts by Trump to ruin them, still have sources they don't want the Chinese to know about. If the information were not classified, the Chinese would be able to figure out where the US got the info from, and heads would roll. Same reason why a US president would never tell a foreign head of state just what ISIS was planning in Syria. Oh, wait. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 24 19:47:54 2020, in response to Re: Corona virus updates, posted by AlM on Mon Feb 24 18:48:13 2020. Ancient Chinese secret! |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Feb 24 20:41:40 2020, in response to Re: Corona virus updates, posted by AlM on Mon Feb 24 18:48:13 2020. 😂😂😂😂😂 |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Feb 25 07:28:48 2020, in response to Corona virus updates, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Feb 13 09:36:36 2020. CNN news update-vaccine |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Feb 25 07:54:03 2020, in response to Re: Corona virus updates, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Feb 25 07:28:48 2020. According to WHO?? Is WHO on first? |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Feb 25 08:29:34 2020, in response to Re: Corona virus updates, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Feb 25 07:28:48 2020. World Health Organization (WHO). |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Feb 25 09:21:10 2020, in response to Re: Corona virus updates, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Feb 25 07:54:03 2020. I'm not asking you WHO's on first, WHO's on second??? |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Feb 25 09:25:10 2020, in response to Corona virus updates, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Feb 13 09:36:36 2020. And now, a few words from our latest Medal of Freedom winner, as he tries to unite the country and keep the people calm. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Feb 25 09:35:47 2020, in response to Re: Corona virus updates, posted by AlM on Mon Feb 24 18:48:13 2020. You two need to fuck each other and fuck off. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Feb 25 09:37:04 2020, in response to Re: Corona virus updates, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Feb 16 16:24:26 2020. I never had a nine day fever with the flu yet. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Feb 25 09:39:16 2020, in response to Some words from the bloviator (was Re: Corona virus updates), posted by 3-9 on Tue Feb 25 09:25:10 2020. Jesus, everything to conservatives is an attack on Trump. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Feb 25 09:45:09 2020, in response to Re: Corona virus updates, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Feb 25 09:35:47 2020. You disagree with my reasoning as to why the briefing was classified? Do you think there is no risk of the Chinese figuring out some of our confidential sources? |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Feb 25 09:46:57 2020, in response to Some words from the bloviator (was Re: Corona virus updates), posted by 3-9 on Tue Feb 25 09:25:10 2020. Right, and the survival rate for the common cold is also 98%.A 2% death rate isn't going to be the end of mankind, but it sure could do some damage to the world economy. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 10:18:53 2020, in response to Some words from the bloviator (was Re: Corona virus updates), posted by 3-9 on Tue Feb 25 09:25:10 2020. The guy's dying from cancer and you stoop to name-calling. You're looking like a real piece of trash there, train-hater. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Feb 25 10:24:02 2020, in response to Re: Corona virus updates, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 10:18:53 2020. Do people who are dying from cancer have a right to speak untruths without being challenged? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 10:38:29 2020, in response to Re: Corona virus updates, posted by AlM on Tue Feb 25 10:24:02 2020. Red herring. I was talking about the name-calling by the train-hating 'chatter.And yes, anyone has a right to say perceived "untruths" (proff?) under the First Amendment, which you now show you hate. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Feb 25 10:43:00 2020, in response to Re: Corona virus updates, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 10:38:29 2020. Of course they have the right to speak untruths. I asked about the right to avoid challenge to those untruths.As for proff, Limbaugh said the coronavirus was just like the common cold. Can you provide proff that the common cold has a 2% death rate? |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Feb 25 11:51:44 2020, in response to Re: Some words from the bloviator (was Re: Corona virus updates), posted by AlM on Tue Feb 25 09:46:57 2020. Rush Limbaugh is full of shit. He uses numbers to his own advantage , I'm telling you the truth .... |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Feb 25 11:51:44 2020, in response to Re: Some words from the bloviator (was Re: Corona virus updates), posted by AlM on Tue Feb 25 09:46:57 2020. Rush Limbaugh is full of shit. He uses numbers to his own advantage , I'm telling you the truth .... |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Feb 25 12:06:26 2020, in response to Re: Some words from the bloviator (was Re: Corona virus updates), posted by ClearAspect on Tue Feb 25 09:39:16 2020. Now who's playing the victim? :-D |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Feb 25 12:09:57 2020, in response to Re: Corona virus updates, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 10:18:53 2020. Just because the guy's dying from cancer, doesn't mean he has carte blanche to continue acting like a prick. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Wed Feb 26 05:34:07 2020, in response to Re: Corona virus updates, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Feb 14 13:34:45 2020. of course, although i would amend "white people" to "the spoiled well-to-do segment of the population no matter the race". |
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Posted by ntrainride on Wed Feb 26 05:40:32 2020, in response to Re: Corona virus updates, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Feb 15 22:49:33 2020. lol. the self-proclaimed geniuspig guy didn't get the bandwidth reference. next time i address him i'll use hollerith code... |
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Posted by ntrainride on Wed Feb 26 05:55:52 2020, in response to Re: Corona virus updates, posted by AlM on Mon Feb 24 18:48:13 2020. christ. trump sure gives his opposition alot of hard ons. especially the, ummmm, "males who practice alternative sexual activities".it's a laff riot for sure. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Feb 26 08:10:57 2020, in response to Re: Corona virus updates, posted by ntrainride on Wed Feb 26 05:34:07 2020. Yes, BUT..."Woke" white people are convinced and convince others that every single thing wrong with the world today is Whitey's fault somehow... |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 26 10:32:44 2020, in response to Re: Corona virus updates, posted by ntrainride on Wed Feb 26 05:40:32 2020. Hey, shithead. I know exactly what bandwidth is. What the fuck does bandwidth have to do with anything?Leave it to you to fail to understand my posts. I guess having feces instead of brain matter doesn't work that well when it comes to higher thought. |
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