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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 26 21:48:02 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 26 17:55:11 2019.

Hillary is the bigger racist of the 2

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 26 21:50:39 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 16:26:32 2019.

I like Mondays!

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 22:12:10 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 26 21:34:50 2019.

LOL!

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 22:13:45 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 26 21:43:42 2019.



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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 22:15:03 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 26 21:48:02 2019.



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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 26 22:55:04 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 22:12:10 2019.

Get on board!

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 26 22:55:26 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Aug 26 21:47:53 2019.

Absolutely nothing.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 26 22:58:06 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 22:13:45 2019.

Eh...That isn't "crazy man" worthy. Usually I like being bestowed with one, but in this case it's unwarranted. Trump doesn't know any better. She does. Trump is like Archie Bunker, but Hillary is like George Jefferson.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 26 22:58:34 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 22:15:03 2019.

Read my other reply.

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Re: AOC plays the race card

Posted by 3-9 on Tue Aug 27 05:24:31 2019, in response to Re: AOC plays the race card, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Aug 26 06:56:38 2019.

DACA is actually a pretty reasonable response to people who have lived in the US for much of their lives since childhood. Do you think it's reasonable to send somebody back to a country of which they are totally unfamiliar with, because they've been in the US since they were babies? I consider this part of immigration reform, and not necessarily the start of doing away with ICE and open borders. Again, I don't recall Pelosi or Schumer even considering that a viable option, and rightly so.

As for the Palestinians, I don't have a deep well of sympathy for them, but Ariel Sharon, WMATAGOAGH(sp), etc., have a point: Israel doesn't have a lot of options at this point without doing something really illegal. I'd be deliriously happy if the Palestinians voluntarily picked up and left the West Bank and Gaza Strip, but we all know that's not going to happen. Setting up new settlements in Area C may be just a "shady" negiotiation tactic, but other heavy handed tactics such as appropriating land rightfully owned by Palestinians and putting bureaucratic road blocks before Palestinians but not Israeli settlers rubs me the wrong way. In any case, the status quo cannot hold for much longer, IMO, and Netanyahu is doing less than nothing when dealing with it.

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Re: AOC plays the race card

Posted by 3-9 on Tue Aug 27 05:37:28 2019, in response to Re: AOC plays the race card, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 10:29:08 2019.

If Netanyahu has a long game, where he pushes the Palestinians to the point that they will seriously opt for peace, that would be great, but at this point, I'm not really sure that he does. The West Bank Palestinians seem to be getting more hopeless and more desperate as time goes on, but not in a way where they are pushing for peace. As for Area C, aren't the Israelis supposed to be ceding control over it? Instead, more settlements are going up, and as AlM said, it's creating a huge PR problem which Israel is doing a terrible job of countering.

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Re: AOC plays the race card

Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Aug 27 07:21:40 2019, in response to Re: AOC plays the race card, posted by 3-9 on Tue Aug 27 05:24:31 2019.

To answer your first paragraph, yes I think it is reasonable to send them back. Send them to the back of the line and let them apply legally like everyone else.

Why should Israel not be able to build in all territory of Israel? That is like saying that the United States shouldn’t be allowed to build around the southern border even though it is geographically inside the United States because it might anger Mexico. Nobody controls the different factions of “Palestinians” and Israel should not be forced to cede land for what amounts to a promise not to attack Israel that will be ignored before the ink is dry.

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Re: AOC plays the race card

Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Aug 27 07:25:03 2019, in response to Re: AOC plays the race card, posted by 3-9 on Tue Aug 27 05:37:28 2019.

Israel could capitulate to every demand and if would still be a “PR problem” simply because Israel exists. Until that changes, Israel shouldn’t have to unilaterally take the proverbial high road when it is under constant attack without an apparent end.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Aug 27 07:57:28 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Aug 26 21:47:53 2019.

You really don't expect me to believe that, do you?

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Aug 27 08:21:45 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Aug 27 07:57:28 2019.

It doesn’t matter whether you believe it or not, but last I checked Hillary Clinton, Tim Kaine, Donald Trump, and Mike Pence were all white.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Aug 27 08:27:40 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Aug 27 08:21:45 2019.

...and, again, Hillary and Kaine's behavior towards minorities was at polar opposites with the behavior of Trump and Hence.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Mtk52983 on Tue Aug 27 08:44:05 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Aug 27 08:27:40 2019.

True, Hillary and Kaine wanted to keep them dependent on the government dole in failing sh*tholes like Detroit and Baltimore (look at Bernie Sanders's reaction to Baltimore), Trump and [P]ence have created record employment levels for minorities

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Aug 27 09:02:26 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Aug 27 08:27:40 2019.

Which is why support for Trump has risen to over 30% in the African American community. Sux to be you.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Aug 27 09:04:19 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Aug 27 07:57:28 2019.

Why, did you vote for the non-white candidates in 2016?

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Aug 27 09:34:02 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 18:04:49 2019.

In other words, considering that the constitution was written when people lived in rural area's and didn't want to be hijacked by urban and banking interests, the country is outdated.

So, Mr. Obama, do we dissolve the union for city-states only?

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Aug 27 09:34:22 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 26 17:42:48 2019.

He did terrible on the day you posted this

ROFL

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Aug 27 09:34:41 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 26 17:42:48 2019.

He did terrible on the day you posted this

ROFL, even if the embed failed.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 27 10:00:50 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Aug 27 09:34:02 2019.

Yes, the Constitution is outdated in some respects.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 27 10:03:18 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 18:09:57 2019.

BUMP!

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Re: AOC plays the race card

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Aug 27 11:21:48 2019, in response to Re: AOC plays the race card, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Aug 27 07:21:40 2019.

Precisely

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Re: AOC plays the race card

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Aug 27 11:28:48 2019, in response to Re: AOC plays the race card, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Aug 27 07:21:40 2019.

"Why should Israel not be able to build in all territory of Israel? That is like saying that the United States shouldn’t be allowed to build around the southern border even though it is geographically inside the United States because it might anger Mexico. "

I wonder if the UN has a complaint lodged against the US for this.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by AlM on Tue Aug 27 11:31:09 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 27 10:00:50 2019.

Which conservatives will also contend when it suits their point of view.



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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by AlM on Tue Aug 27 11:33:07 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 27 10:03:18 2019.

I mostly disagree.

Real Soviet style whataboutism is as follows:

A: Hey B, your system is totally screwed up and causing massive pain and injustice.

B: Your system has some real problems too, so I don't have to respond to your points.




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Re: AOC plays the race card

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 27 11:36:43 2019, in response to Re: AOC plays the race card, posted by 3-9 on Tue Aug 27 05:37:28 2019.

Netanyahu accepts that the Palestinians will not accept peace with Israel, at least not for a generation. There is no reason to give any concessions to people who only take and don't give.

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Re: AOC plays the race card

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 27 11:39:01 2019, in response to Re: AOC plays the race card, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Aug 27 07:21:40 2019.

That is like saying that the United States shouldn’t be allowed to build around the southern border even though it is geographically inside the United States because it might anger Mexico

That's because one country ceding land to another following a war used to be A-OK until Jews started doing it.

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Re: AOC plays the race card

Posted by AlM on Tue Aug 27 11:44:04 2019, in response to Re: AOC plays the race card, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 27 11:36:43 2019.

There is reason to give a concession on settlements to interested third parties like Western Europe and the United States. The fact that Western Europe is full of anti-Semites for whom nothing Israel would do is enough doesn't mean that concessions would have no positive effect.



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Re: AOC plays the race card

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Aug 27 12:09:59 2019, in response to Re: AOC plays the race card, posted by AlM on Tue Aug 27 11:44:04 2019.

Maybe if you break your post down in a different format you can see what you just (didn't) write.

There is reason to give a concession on settlements to interested third parties like Western Europe...[who] is full of anti-Semites for whom nothing Israel would do is enough doesn't mean that concessions would have no positive effect.


So, who do they concede these Jimmy Crow ideas to? You personally?


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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 27 17:35:06 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Aug 27 08:27:40 2019.

Hillary hates you the most of all!

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Aug 27 17:43:52 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Aug 27 08:27:40 2019.

Truth. Trump and Pence haven't spent their life being condescending towards minorities and not viewing them as People as Hilarity with her fake accent has.

You want a MAGA hat yet?

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 28 14:37:27 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 23:34:39 2019.

LOVE Unsweetened Tea. Pure Leaf is my favorite.
I don't drink any sugar drinks anymore.


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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 28 14:38:53 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 23:40:52 2019.

It's not, but the noryhern coastal elitist want's to "Fuck" an entire part of the country.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 28 14:47:36 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 28 14:38:53 2019.

No, we don't. And in any event, any sort of indifference or malice from the cities towards the rural areas are equal and opposite to indifference or malice from the rural areas towards the cities.

That having been said, it's not even that. Rural people from states like Illinois have more in common with rural people in states like Iowa and Kansas, but those people aren't heard thanks to the EC. At the same time, urban people in states like Texas and Georgia are similarly disenfranchised. Meanwhile, the interests of city folk who live in swing states like Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania get more attention. Why should the people of Philadelphia, Miami, or Columbus decide elections for the people of Houston, Atlanta, or San Francisco?

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 28 14:49:30 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 28 14:37:27 2019.

I used to only drink sweetened tea and now I only drink unsweetened tea. Even in a situation where I'm not concerned about sugar.

I still prefer diet soda to plain water.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Aug 28 14:52:09 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 28 14:49:30 2019.

lol!

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 28 15:48:51 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 28 14:47:36 2019.

And again, the alternative is no one outside of the largest cities would be heard.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 28 15:49:26 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 28 14:49:30 2019.

I stopped drinking diet soda too, all but very occasionally

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Aug 28 16:30:23 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 28 15:48:51 2019.

And you clearly are using that as a fake pretext.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 28 16:39:56 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 28 14:47:36 2019.

Interestingly, though, Trump won the EC thanks to voters in counties that had no major cities at all.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by AlM on Wed Aug 28 16:41:11 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 28 15:48:51 2019.

False. People in the largest cities don't speak with one voice. Any Democrat needs widespread suburban support to win.



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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by AlM on Wed Aug 28 16:47:27 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 28 15:49:26 2019.

Which is good. The body knows its not getting what it wants when you give it diet soda, and it compensates in strange ways that aren't fully understood.


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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 28 17:09:00 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by AlM on Wed Aug 28 16:41:11 2019.

And rural areas don't speak with one voice either. The electoral college similarly disenfranchises urban voices in less urban states.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 28 17:10:08 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Aug 28 16:30:23 2019.

He's repeating it over and over again as a talking point regardless of how often we show it to be wrong on every level.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 28 17:38:43 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 28 17:10:08 2019.

But your reasoning is wrong, and you keep repeating the same over and over

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Aug 28 17:41:13 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 28 17:38:43 2019.

That's just part of the disease.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 28 17:48:34 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 28 17:38:43 2019.

No, it isn’t wrong!

It seems like a very weak rebuttal, but since you never respond to any of the points I make, what am I going to do, repeat them? I’ve already done that, ad nauseam.

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