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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 11:35:40 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 14 10:43:39 2019. I think it's more Democrats, but, I think they vote for whoever is better for them in the elections, and most of the time it happens to be Republican candidates |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 11:36:37 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 14 10:44:28 2019. Not if they were told to find Charlie! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 11:40:29 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 10:56:14 2019. The actual instructors who teach takedown methods. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 11:41:19 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 10:55:40 2019. As if you actually think people in those positions actually are Hands-On when it comes to the training of the recruits! LOL LOL 😂😂🤣🤣 |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 11:46:11 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 11:41:19 2019. Inspector Dee is, in fact, a former Academy instructor. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 11:47:29 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 11:40:29 2019. Whom the inspector supervises. What? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 11:48:24 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 11:46:11 2019. Yes, I read that. But we are not talkin about him when he was in that rank and the subject he taught. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 11:50:08 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 11:47:29 2019. You work for EMS, you know damn well that the big bosses do not go and watch the recruits, when I was in the academy decades ago, the CO of the academy never came and watched us. In fact, the highest rank to ever watch us were the Lieutenants. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 11:59:06 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 11:50:08 2019. When I went through the EMS Academy, the BOT chief in charge had taught every subject in the curriculum except EVOC, and still made a point of stopping by each of the classrooms to check on our progress.The current BOT chief, I'm given to understand, does the same thing, 30 years later. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue May 14 12:14:46 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 11:33:55 2019. If any criminal dies, no one gives a shitAre you out of your mind? Are you fine with all the petty criminals murdered by Duterte's police, for example? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 12:20:45 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 11:59:06 2019. Well that's EMS. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 12:21:48 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by AlM on Tue May 14 12:14:46 2019. I don't concern myself with the Philippines. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue May 14 13:48:43 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 10:55:40 2019. On the contrary, I'll bet that even you, allegedly coming from civil service, know that not all "facts" are really facts. So if the pandering mayor wants to give the black electorate their pound of flesh, Mr. Dee knows what the video has to "clearly show" in order to please his boss. After all, what does sacrificing one white cop mean in the grand scheme of NY politics. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 14:16:05 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue May 14 13:48:43 2019. You really are delusional! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 14 14:30:53 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 11:35:40 2019. TNHIW |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 14 14:34:13 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 11:59:06 2019. Thanks for the EMS dispatch. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 14:47:26 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 14 14:30:53 2019. No kidding, but I think there's still more registered Democrats and Republicans in Staten Island |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 14:49:42 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 14 14:30:53 2019. 128,000 D to 80,000 R |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 14 14:51:25 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 14:47:26 2019. That is actually true. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue May 14 16:08:04 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 10:35:34 2019. And like it or not, IMO he'll be fired not on account of his deeds or non deeds, but to keep the city quiet. A re-instatement to full duty will no doubt bring out that bobble headed mutant Al Sharpton & demonstrations will happen,tieing up the town big time. Nobody wants that, especially that hoople mayor DeB whose toying with the idea of running for president. The police commish might already have his marching orders from his boss.If civil disobedience happens on his (DeB's) watch, opponents will seize on this & it would not bode well for his chances, minimal enough as they are. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 17:16:53 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue May 14 16:08:04 2019. He doesn't have a chance in hell to win the Democratic Primary, yet alone POTUS. I don't think he'll get fired just to keep the rabblerousers quiet-it sends a bad precedent. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue May 14 17:49:45 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 17:16:53 2019. I think he knows that also. I consider this a practice run for 2024 (of course that would mean that Trump was reelected, if Trump loses next year, I highly doubt DeB would primary the Democrat who would have defeated Trump) |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue May 14 18:34:00 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue May 14 13:48:43 2019. Oh really? Is that the best argument you can come up with, Tinkerbell? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 15 08:23:11 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 14 14:34:13 2019. Nobody got the Bad EMS joke. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed May 15 08:28:28 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 15 08:23:11 2019. Perhaps nobody even knew there was a joke? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed May 15 10:12:02 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 09:01:23 2019. Here is the Medical Examiner specifically using the word "chokehold" to describe the mechanism of Garner's death, in official testimony. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed May 15 10:17:57 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue May 14 13:48:43 2019. Here are some facts for you, testified to by the Medical Examiner under oath, today.NYC medical examiner testifies that NYPD Officer Pantaleo used a ‘chokehold’ on Eric Garner By ROCCO PARASCANDOLA and THOMAS TRACY NEW YORK DAILY NEWS MAY 15, 2019 | 12:51 PM NYC medical examiner testifies that NYPD Officer Pantaleo used a ‘chokehold’ on Eric Garner A long-delayed disciplinary trial is set to begin Monday for Pantaleo, accused of using a banned chokehold in the July 2014 death of Eric Garner. The pathologist who performed an autopsy on Eric Garner testified Wednesday that the banned chokehold performed by Police Officer Daniel Pantaleo sparked a “lethal sequence of events” that led to his death. Dr. Floriana Persechino said the maneuver sparked an asthma attack, that led to Garner not being able to breathe as he was arrested on Staten Island on July 17, 2014. After reviewing the video, first released by the Daily News, Persechinio testified at Pantaleo’s NYPD trial in Police Headquarters that the officer clearly has Garner in a chokehold as he took the larger man down to the ground face first. “That maneuver is a chokehold,” said Persechino, who has performed upwards of 4,000 autopsies and has been trained on how to check for signs to see if a chokehold played a role in someone’s death. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 15 10:23:27 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed May 15 10:17:57 2019. Did she base her conclusion on watching the video in addition to the effects observed in the post-mortem examination of Mr. Garner's body? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed May 15 10:30:58 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 15 10:23:27 2019. The article quote I posted says she reviewed the video, and is trained to recognize chokeholds and the postmortem evidence they produce.I tend to put more stock in the testimony of the professional who actually examined Garner's body, and saw the video of the mechanism of injury, than a self-serving version of events offered by Pantaleo's lawyers or the PBA. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 15 11:56:06 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed May 15 10:12:02 2019. I can't read the article, it won't let me. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 15 12:00:34 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed May 15 10:17:57 2019. You mean to tell me someone testifies five years after in the NYPD kangaroo court against the cop?!😱😱 WOW! That's NEVER happened before!! Where was he at the grand jury?! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 15 12:03:00 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed May 15 10:30:58 2019. You will always stick up for the perps, just because they are black. Where was she five years ago at the Grand Jury testimony? |
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Posted by Dave on Wed May 15 12:07:59 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 15 11:56:06 2019. It's a Daily News story. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed May 15 12:09:17 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by Dave on Wed May 15 12:07:59 2019. Which quotes her directly. What's the problem? |
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Posted by AlM on Wed May 15 12:10:32 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 15 12:00:34 2019. Where was he [sic] at the grand jury?!You will have to ask the Staten Island DA that question. She performed the autopsy; she would have testified if called. And she issued a written report at the time that the cause of death was pressure to the neck. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed May 15 12:11:46 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 15 12:00:34 2019. How does her official findings about Garner's death, which are legal documents in New York State, become diminished by the forum in which they are presented?They're no less true. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 15 12:12:11 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by AlM on Wed May 15 12:10:32 2019. PWN3D! |
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Posted by AlM on Wed May 15 12:12:39 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 15 12:03:00 2019. Your arguments are increasingly sounding desperate. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 15 12:14:28 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed May 15 10:30:58 2019. IAWTP |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 15 12:17:49 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by AlM on Wed May 15 12:10:32 2019. But you didn't, because that's not what killed him. But politics does that to a woman or a man. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 15 12:18:53 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed May 15 12:11:46 2019. Do you realize that when he was turned over to EMS. He was still alive? Let's not forget that fact. The narrative is Pantaleo "killed" him, but that's simply not true. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 15 12:19:27 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 15 12:17:49 2019. That is what killed him, unless you are accusing her of lying for the dubious benefit of the city. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 15 12:19:52 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by AlM on Wed May 15 12:12:39 2019. By saying that makes it seem desperate? |
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Posted by AlM on Wed May 15 12:28:30 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 15 12:18:53 2019. The narrative is Pantaleo "killed" him, but that's simply not true.Getting even more desperate, aren't we? People often get charged with murder for a death that is not instantaneous. Didn't a woman recently push a man out of a bus, and she got charged with murder a few days later after he died? |
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Posted by AlM on Wed May 15 12:30:13 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 15 12:19:52 2019. You ask where she was at the time of the grand jury, when her appearance at the grand jury was entirely under the control of the person who is most accused of sweeping this under the rug, namely the SI DA. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed May 15 12:32:11 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 15 12:03:00 2019. Her written findings described Garner's injuries and their causes well within the requirements of state law. They were sufficient for presentation to the Grand Jury in her absence.As for me "always stick[ing] up for the perps, just because they are black", that's just shameless racial dog-whistling in an attempt to discredit the truth, which is that Pantaleo choked Garner to death on video for all the world to see, the postmortem forensic evidence proves it, and a white cop got away with murdering another Black man yet again. Pretending Garner somehow committed suicide by wrapping his neck around Pantaleo's arm won't change these facts. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 15 12:40:45 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by AlM on Wed May 15 12:30:13 2019. ¿Quién tiene SIDA? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 15 12:41:48 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 15 12:19:27 2019. I have no proof of it, but that happens all the time. That's been happening in political court cases since our nation began. 1 time a high-ranking police officials stated that it's easier to go to a police funeral then have to face Community unrest. It's the same thing in this case. Throw him under the bus as a sacrificial lamb, so the community doesn't have any unrest. You know, the same Community who couldn't stand him while he was alive. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 15 12:43:17 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by AlM on Wed May 15 12:28:30 2019. Do you realize who you are trying to explain the law to? Yes, I know all of this.I have no vested interest in this case, so why would I be desperate for? People like you hate the fact that people like me are correct. That's what it boils down to. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed May 15 12:43:44 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 15 12:40:45 2019. Staten Island DA. |
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