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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by AlM on Tue May 14 05:00:05 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 04:42:24 2019.

Yes it is.

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by AlM on Tue May 14 05:00:50 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 14 04:44:02 2019.

OK...

I've never actually seen anyone post on that topic. I've seen BB saying the medical examiner never said it.


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Re: Misguided fools Block FDR Drive

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 05:01:02 2019, in response to Re: Misguided fools Block FDR Drive, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 04:53:55 2019.

It wasn't about the cigarettes for the last time, this guy was a menace who used to beat up and threaten the arab store owners because he used to stand in front of best stores to do it. He would go around with his white truck and rob people oh, he was in the process of getting thrown out of the projects etc..

He also pushed the cops hands away and twisted his body like he was trying to get a donut from off of his shoulder

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Re: Misguided fools Block FDR Drive

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 05:03:02 2019, in response to Re: Misguided fools Block FDR Drive, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 04:52:09 2019.

Are you a police officer? Are you a district attorney? Are you a judge? If not, I would hope you would refrain from trying to cite New York State penal law all the New York City laws. Me, however on the other hand, I'm qualified to speak on this so I will tell you that a summons is always in lieu of arrest, I thought police officer's discretion. Remember that. You're welcome.

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 05:04:19 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 04:55:29 2019.

I guess that's another one of your conspiracies? The real answer is they are kept off until they are manually switched on and in the real world when something happens when should hits the fan and adrenaline is up, remembering to put a camera on isn't a priority. Or even if the cameras on, they get knocked around and turned off during the scuffle

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 05:09:04 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by AlM on Tue May 14 05:00:05 2019.

No it wasn't, look at the report

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 05:09:44 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by AlM on Tue May 14 05:00:50 2019.

It's all in the wording

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue May 14 06:21:24 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 04:50:42 2019.

The courts disagree with your lying eyes. That should tell you something, Tinkerbell.

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 06:24:07 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 05:09:04 2019.

"The city medical examiner has ruled the death of Eric Garner, the 43-year-old father whose death in police custody sparked national outrage, a homicide, saying a chokehold killed him.
The medical examiner said compression of the neck and chest, along with Garner's positioning on the ground while being restrained by police during the July 17 stop on Staten Island, caused his death."


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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 06:32:44 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue May 14 06:21:24 2019.

Yes, it tells me the Staten Island DA knew which side his bread was buttered on, troll.

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 06:42:40 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 06:24:07 2019.

You'll never learn. Your cognitive dissonance stands in the way.

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 06:48:54 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 06:42:40 2019.

Tell ya what: I'll come over to your house, and you can let me put you in Dietl's "seatbelt hold" while I squeeze the life out of you.

I'll use the defense at my murder trial that your ill health and noncompliance was the cause of your death, not my arm around your throat.

Think the judge will sentence me to life with, or without parole?

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by AlM on Tue May 14 07:02:56 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 06:42:40 2019.

He's got a citation from a reasonably reputable source saying the medical examiner called it a choke hold. You've never demonstrated that the medical examiner didn't say that.




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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by Train Dude on Tue May 14 07:08:46 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 06:32:44 2019.

The DA prosecuted, asshole. The jury of your peers acquitted, asshole.


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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by Train Dude on Tue May 14 07:09:58 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 06:48:54 2019.

LOL, Tinkerbell

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 07:11:50 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 06:48:54 2019.

I never heard of that in my entire life. That's just something he coined.

And listen, You'll have to buy me dinner first at least!

And am I 350 lb, with bad health and am I acting a fool pushing your arm away and positioning my body so you can grab me?

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 07:12:48 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by AlM on Tue May 14 07:02:56 2019.

It might have been the New York City PBA or it may have been a different site. It did not say Chokehold, it said blockage of the airway. They list the cause of death, not the maneuver

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 07:13:49 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by Train Dude on Tue May 14 07:08:46 2019.

He knows this, but he still thinks it's the 1950s South, because that fits his narrative, because he doesn't want to agree with the facts surrounding the case.

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 07:14:29 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by Train Dude on Tue May 14 07:08:46 2019.

Actually, the jury voted, based on the DA's carefully constructed presentation, not to indict. The DA got the outcome he was looking for. No trial ever took place. Please try to keep up. I know it's difficult for you.

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 07:15:33 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 07:12:48 2019.

It was compression of Garner's airway, by the use of a chokehold.

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by Train Dude on Tue May 14 07:15:47 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by AlM on Tue May 14 07:02:56 2019.

"Compression around the neck and chest and his position on the ground" but does not say choke. His own weight on the ground and his very poor health killed the fat bastard,

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 07:17:26 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by Train Dude on Tue May 14 07:15:47 2019.

The report specifically cites a chokehold as the mechanism of injury. Even you should be able to grasp what that means.

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 07:19:00 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 07:15:33 2019.

Of his body weight being on top of him, anyway, this incident is 5 years old already, like I said, this is just an NYPD disciplinary case, nothing to see here.

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by Train Dude on Tue May 14 07:19:26 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 07:14:29 2019.

But your hatred of cops and especially white cops, outweighs the evidence presented. The DA got the outcome that he wanted. He got a career millstone around the neck of society off the public's back.

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 07:19:42 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 07:14:29 2019.

Suuuuuuuuuuuure.. I have a bridge to sell you

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by Train Dude on Tue May 14 07:19:57 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 07:19:00 2019.

Exactly. Tinkerbell can't read


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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 07:19:58 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by Train Dude on Tue May 14 07:15:47 2019.

Exactly.

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by Train Dude on Tue May 14 07:21:04 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 07:17:26 2019.

Where? That fat bastard compressed his own lungs.

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Re: Scumbags Block FDR Drive

Posted by cortelyounext on Tue May 14 07:24:45 2019, in response to Re: Scumbags Block FDR Drive, posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 13 14:20:43 2019.

That is not an exhaustive list. Gentrification in the outer boroughs such as Long Island City and South Astoria is right in your wheelhouse. The SMAZ learned a hard lesson after you destroyed him in the LIC thread when he went after you immediately following his annihilation of the Jayman, who is a genius, in the HBD thread, his only loss on this board. After attending to his mortal wounds, the Jayman reappeared on SubChat and put forth a poor desultory lackluster call it what you will effort something about Lexington Avenue Local headways against some young up and comer which ended in a draw. At that point, he realized it was all over and disappeared having never being able to recover from that bludgeoning by the SMAZ.

Moreover, the Galante hit off Knickerbocker forced me to come to terms and admit, against my better instincts, that nobody can defeat you in a La Cosa Nostra argument. Nobody. As painful as that is or me to admit, it is the unvarnished truth.

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 14 07:25:54 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue May 14 06:21:24 2019.

What courts?

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 14 07:26:27 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by Train Dude on Tue May 14 07:08:46 2019.

No one was acquitted.

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Re: Scumbags Block FDR Drive

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 14 07:56:02 2019, in response to Re: Scumbags Block FDR Drive, posted by cortelyounext on Tue May 14 07:24:45 2019.

I know you're part of a stalking ring that is trying to troll me off this message board.

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by AlM on Tue May 14 08:01:51 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 07:12:48 2019.

Yes, there are people who say it wasn't a choke hold. Some of them have medical credentials, and they might even be correct.

None of this changes that the medical examiner ruled that a choke hold was applied and it caused death. You can claim he is wrong but given all the reports you would have a hard time claiming he didn't actually say it.





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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by AlM on Tue May 14 08:03:51 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by AlM on Tue May 14 05:00:50 2019.

Bump.

I really would be interested as to why you think the medical examiner was wrong.



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Re: Scumbags Block FDR Drive

Posted by cortelyounext on Tue May 14 08:32:18 2019, in response to Re: Scumbags Block FDR Drive, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 14 07:56:02 2019.

You once stated for all to see that "Nobody can beat cortelyounext in a violent crime thread." Of course that goes without saying, but still, that right there was the nadir or zenith whichever one means high point of my time on this board. The low point? Easy... that would be when Amanda called me an ignoramus - I have never gotten over that and I never will.

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Re: Scumbags Block FDR Drive

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 14 08:38:57 2019, in response to Re: Scumbags Block FDR Drive, posted by cortelyounext on Tue May 14 08:32:18 2019.

Easy beat AlM the other day.

No one likes me. People like alm Olog nilet BFM and Scrabbleship.

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Re: Scumbags Block FDR Drive

Posted by cortelyounext on Tue May 14 08:39:12 2019, in response to Re: Scumbags Block FDR Drive, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 14 07:56:02 2019.

How come you are not participating in the National Pizza Day thread? Answer the question.

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Re: Scumbags Block FDR Drive

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 14 08:41:27 2019, in response to Re: Scumbags Block FDR Drive, posted by cortelyounext on Tue May 14 08:39:12 2019.

I'm gluten free again.

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Re: Scumbags Block FDR Drive

Posted by cortelyounext on Tue May 14 08:42:59 2019, in response to Re: Scumbags Block FDR Drive, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 14 08:38:57 2019.

Nobody knows how to spell AlM or alm or A1M or those other AEMs properly and nobody ever will. It is a mystery which has no answer.

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by Dave on Tue May 14 08:43:45 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 07:12:48 2019.

The M.E.'s report said Garner died of neck compressions. Chronic bronchial asthma, obesity and hypertensive cardiovascular disease were contributing factors.

Whether or not neck compressions are the same thing as a chokehold is the subject of debate. Are there neck compressions that are not choke holds? I don't know.

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue May 14 08:46:02 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 07:19:00 2019.

idwtp

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Re: Scumbags Block FDR Drive

Posted by cortelyounext on Tue May 14 08:53:35 2019, in response to Re: Scumbags Block FDR Drive, posted by cortelyounext on Tue May 14 08:39:12 2019.

I got a bag of nuts and popcorn from Nuts on Clark at Chicago O'Hare the other day. I have been known to delay departure so I could get over there and get my treat. If said tardiness results in passengers missing overseas connections at downrange hubs, which has sometimes been the case, well, I'm sorry but that is on them and so be it. For some reason I think the chicagomotorman prefers Garrett's over in the other concourse (Terminal 1 Concourse B) but he is mistaken.

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 08:53:40 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by AlM on Tue May 14 08:01:51 2019.

If that was true, he would be in jail right now

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 08:54:18 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by AlM on Tue May 14 08:03:51 2019.

The medical examiner isn't wrong. He never said it was caused by asphyxiation to the throat

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 08:55:13 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by Dave on Tue May 14 08:43:45 2019.

If I put my arm around your throat and apply pressure, you're going to have an awfully difficult time getting air into your lungs. In New York State, that's called criminal obstruction of breathing, and if it causes you to die, murder or manslaughter.

It must be nice to escape justice based on semantics and the low social status of your victim.

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 08:55:21 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by Dave on Tue May 14 08:43:45 2019.

The neck compressions happened when he was on the floor because if you watch the video, you can see him talkin with no strain when he was still on his feet, then when he was on the ground, he started with the I can't breathe I can't breathe.

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Re: Scumbags Block FDR Drive

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 14 08:55:55 2019, in response to Re: Scumbags Block FDR Drive, posted by cortelyounext on Tue May 14 08:42:59 2019.

A 30 day No Fap solves a lot if mysteries.

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 08:57:06 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 08:53:40 2019.

Clearly, Pantaleo's status vs. Garner's social status was a decisive factor in the former's continuing freedom.

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Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 14 08:58:31 2019, in response to Re: Anarchists Block FDR Drive, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 14 08:55:21 2019.

Garner's neck is clearly being compressed well before he ends up supine on the ground.

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Re: Scumbags Block FDR Drive

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 14 08:58:33 2019, in response to Re: Scumbags Block FDR Drive, posted by cortelyounext on Tue May 14 08:53:35 2019.

You need dietary changes.

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