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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Dec 6 20:20:24 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Dec 6 20:05:32 2017.

They are people, correct?

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by AlM on Wed Dec 6 20:26:01 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Dec 6 20:20:24 2017.

Bad argument. The members of the Supreme Soviet were people too. So are the members of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China.



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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by Fred G on Wed Dec 6 20:26:40 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Dec 6 17:09:01 2017.

Not really the will of the people because that implies a mandate which there is none. He did not win the popular vote. One poll I saw showed 23% in favor and about half don’t care.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Dec 6 20:59:02 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by AlM on Wed Dec 6 20:26:01 2017.

I know that!

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Dec 6 23:08:45 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Dec 6 17:09:01 2017.

Many presidents have promised to move the embassy to Jerusalem during their campaigns. That doesn't mean its actually a good idea.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Dec 6 23:10:00 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Dec 6 14:44:24 2017.

Yes. They are already assigned to consulates there and there are no issues that I know of.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 6 23:54:32 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Dec 6 20:05:32 2017.

Excellent Post!

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 6 23:57:29 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Dec 6 17:06:05 2017.

Is there any other law specifying where the US Embassy should be? Are we going to pass a law forcing the president to move our Embassy in Tanzania to Dodoma?

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 00:01:17 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Dec 6 23:08:45 2017.

DROP DEAD SELF HATING JEW!!!!!!! FUCK YOU! FUCK BERNIE SANDERS! FUCK DIANE FEINSTEIN! FUCK JAN SCHAKOWSKY! FUCK RAHM EMANUEL! FUCK YOU OREN HIRSCH YOU FUCKIN DORK!

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 00:01:18 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Dec 6 23:08:45 2017.

DROP DEAD SELF HATING JEW!!!!!!! FUCK YOU! FUCK BERNIE SANDERS! FUCK DIANE FEINSTEIN! FUCK JAN SCHAKOWSKY! FUCK RAHM EMANUEL! FUCK YOU OREN HIRSCH YOU FUCKIN DORK!

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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 00:04:33 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Dec 6 23:08:45 2017.

A friend to the Jews, and a friend to Israel.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Dec 7 00:04:56 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 6 23:57:29 2017.

I don't know but there is "the Jerusalem Embassy Act" signed into law October 23,1995. I guess that would be by Bubba. Twice a year for the last 22 years, every President since clinton have signed a 6 month waiver, postponing it's application.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Dec 7 00:07:30 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 00:01:17 2017.

Hmmmmm

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 00:18:46 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Dec 7 00:07:30 2017.

What do you mean hmmmmmm?

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Dec 7 00:21:15 2017, in response to Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by Dave on Wed Dec 6 14:25:38 2017.

So I guess Trump's WH has given up on trying to broker peace between Isreal and the Muslims. You can't choose a side AND still be a non partial mediator for peace at the same time. Mediation 101. But much like Trump on every other issue his policy is throw gasoline on the fire and watch it burn instead of uniting.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 00:24:24 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Dec 7 00:21:15 2017.

Saying that to say what?

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 00:25:17 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Dec 6 14:44:24 2017.

Saying that to say what?

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 00:29:02 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 00:01:17 2017.

FUCK JORGE MARIO BERGOGLIO!

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Dec 7 00:45:19 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 00:24:24 2017.

Saying that to say US can't play mediator in peace talks to choose a side in said peace talks. Peace talks would take compromise meaning give and take. Trump essentially took a huge bargaining chip off the table (Recogition of Jerusalem as capital which is why other pres held off on the first place) favor of one side meaning the other side the Palestinians has no reason to even come to the table.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 00:49:02 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Dec 7 00:45:19 2017.

There is nothing to negotiate.

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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 7 00:52:21 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 00:04:33 2017.

I agree! The United States and Israel must always remain allies and Friends!

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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 00:52:53 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 7 00:52:21 2017.

Thank you.

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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 7 00:55:39 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 00:52:53 2017.

The original name of Israel is called Judea! They keep on trying to erase history with that little known fact.

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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 00:59:02 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 7 00:55:39 2017.

Thank you.

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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Dec 7 01:00:02 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 7 00:55:39 2017.

The original name is Israel, named after Jacob. Judea (Judah) split from Israel (later "Samaria") circa 930 BC. There was never a "Palestine" until the Romans renamed Judea "Palæstina" out of spite after destroying the second temple.

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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 7 01:03:27 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 00:59:02 2017.

The left, who do not like the state of Israel but love the Palestinian State, conveniently forgets that Islam was only founded 1400 years ago while Judaism has been around for thousands of years before that. The Jewish people are the original inhabitants of that region and that's a fact.

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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 7 01:06:47 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Dec 7 01:00:02 2017.

Okay. It's been awhile since I took religious classes but that could be it as my mind might be foggy.

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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 01:07:33 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 7 01:03:27 2017.

IAWTLP

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Dec 7 01:11:41 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 00:49:02 2017.

So what's your solution invade? crush em? Isreal can definitely do that but then you'd have Iraq part 2 and even worse than Iraq they would have neighboring Middle Eastern pissed countries to also deal with. In other words the very opposite of peace.

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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 7 01:30:41 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 7 00:52:21 2017.

No, they shouldn’t be Friends. Israel is the Jewish state.

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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 7 01:31:00 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 7 00:55:39 2017.

FALSE!

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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 7 01:31:28 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 00:59:02 2017.

Do not thank him for spreading falsehoods.

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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 7 01:32:27 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Dec 7 01:00:02 2017.

100%

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 7 01:33:17 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Dec 7 00:04:56 2017.

It’s a stupid law and it ought to be repealed. The president should still move the embassy to Jerusalem.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 7 01:34:10 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Dec 7 00:21:15 2017.

How is Trump choosing a side in this particular situation?

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 7 01:37:13 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Dec 7 00:45:19 2017.

Jerusalem as the capital of Israel is non-negotiable. It does not belong on the bargaining table. If that means that a peace agreement can never be worked out, then peace is impossible and we should accept that. Jerusalem as the capital of Israel is more important than making “peace” with terrorists.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Dec 7 02:01:05 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Dec 7 00:21:15 2017.

NO. BUT UNLIKE HIS INEFFECTUAL PREDECESSORS, TRUMP REALIZES THAT 22 YEARS OF NOT MOVING THE EMBASSY TO JERUSALEM JAS BOUGHT NOTHING FROM THE JORDANIANS AND THE PALESTINIANS. ALARM IS RINGING. TIME FOR YOU TO WAKE UP.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Dec 7 02:06:13 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 7 01:33:17 2017.

The law may be stupid but it certainly was bipartisan. The 104th Congress which passed the bill was Republican and Bill Clinton signed it.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Dec 7 02:10:47 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 00:18:46 2017.

Hmmmmmm meaning you are critical of some of my comments but that comment you made is way over the top and aimed at someone far less venal than the people I "attack". That what I mean by Hmmmmm

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 03:15:12 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Dec 7 01:11:41 2017.

Invade what? Have you looked at a map of Israel lately and noticed how tiny it is? No so-called 2 state solution in any way shape or form.

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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 03:17:22 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 7 01:30:41 2017.

The United States and Israel shouldn't be friends?

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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 03:18:29 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 7 01:31:28 2017.

I'll thank him if I want to thank him.

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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 03:19:12 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 7 01:32:27 2017.

Very good.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 03:20:42 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Dec 7 02:01:05 2017.

Excellent post.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 03:23:56 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Dec 7 02:10:47 2017.

How is it over the top? Any Jew who doesn't agree with President Trump's correct decision to say the obvious, that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel is a self hating Jew.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Dec 7 03:35:36 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 03:15:12 2017.

What do you mean invade what, have you looked at a map? The Palestinian Controlled portion of the West Bank.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 03:39:13 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Dec 7 03:35:36 2017.

Judea and Sumaria, or the West Bank is Israeli land, and it belongs to the Jewish people. And Jewish people only.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Dec 7 03:49:03 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 7 01:37:13 2017.

'Jerusalem as the capital of Israel is more important'

Why? As in Isreal comtrols Jerusalum has the military might, and $$$ to back that up. All branches of their gov't runs out of Jerusalum. For all intents and purposes Isreal already sees Jerusalem as the capital why the heck they care if the US and others recognize it as such so what international embassies are in Tel Aviv? Long story short if such inconsequential title from other countries can be a bargaining chip use it bc at the end of the day it's the capital anyway.




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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 7 04:15:23 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 7 01:30:41 2017.

¿Por que?

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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 7 04:16:19 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 7 01:31:00 2017.

Read what Olog said. I already told him I'm stand corrected. I haven't been to a religious class since the 1980s

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