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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 7 14:54:58 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 14:29:23 2017.

WMATAGMOAGH's post listed what he believes Trump's motivations were.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by AlM on Thu Dec 7 14:55:07 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 14:42:25 2017.

Sur le Pont d'Avignon
On y danse, On y danse
Sur le Pont d'Avignon
On y danse tous en rond

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by AlM on Thu Dec 7 14:58:56 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Dec 7 14:48:34 2017.

At some point, to maintain a Jewish majority of the electorate, Israel will need to strip them of their rights including the right to vote.

Are you talking about Arab Israelis?

The best way to reduce their birth rate is to provide sufficiently good economic conditions. And once that happens, a fair number of them will end up not voting in a bloc. (Yes I know I'm sweeping a huge number of issues under the rug, but it always works.)



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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 15:00:25 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 7 14:54:58 2017.

OK I'll read it again. smh

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by SLRT on Thu Dec 7 15:01:32 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 7 13:52:07 2017.

You compare Israel to East Germany?

Even if you can't perceive a moral difference, Israel is our long-term ally; East Germany was the USSR's ally.

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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 15:01:46 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 15:00:25 2017.

There are several posts of his. Which one?

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 15:02:17 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by AlM on Thu Dec 7 14:55:07 2017.

Speak English.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by AlM on Thu Dec 7 15:06:05 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by SLRT on Thu Dec 7 15:01:32 2017.

Mr. Yugo asked for an example and SP gave one.


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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 7 15:09:27 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 15:00:25 2017.

Follow the thread

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Dec 7 15:11:02 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 14:51:10 2017.

Very much so. I can't believe a Jew is saying to do exactly what our oppressors did to us.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 7 15:15:17 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by AlM on Thu Dec 7 15:06:05 2017.

It was actually a counter-example: The United States located an embassy in what the host country considered to be its own capital, even though the international community disputed the sovereignty of that area.

SMH that SLRT doesn't see it as a counterexample and doesn't realize that it makes more sense to show that we treated an enemy better than an ally.

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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 15:16:42 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 7 15:09:27 2017.

ok thank you. He's against what Trump did because he doesn't want to make the arab muslims angry.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 15:17:40 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Dec 7 15:11:02 2017.

OK that's cool!zai gezunt.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Dec 7 15:26:20 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Dec 7 14:48:34 2017.

The so-called "State of Palestine" already does that to Jews. So what? If they want to be non-Israeli, they don't get the right to vote and there is nothing at all wrong with that.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Dec 7 15:49:19 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Dec 7 15:26:20 2017.

But the ones who have chosen to be Israeli citizens, chicagomotorman is saying to strip of rights of citizenship and deport. Just because "Palestine" does it does not mean Israel should too.

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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Dec 7 17:12:38 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 15:16:42 2017.

No. I'm against what Trump did because I don't want people to DIE.

Have you ever walked down the street having to constantly look and ask yourself where am I going to run if the siren indicating a crude rocket from Gaza is headed towards the city where you are? Have you ever stood on a street corner waiting for a bus and had to watch each and every car go by and be ready to run in case the driver decided to jump the curb and mow down anyone and anything in his path? Have you ever gone on a day trip to a place a few hours from home and get home to a bunch of emails and texts asking if you're OK because there was a terror attack two hours earlier? Have you had to pass through multiple police and military checkpoints on said drive? Have you had to submit to security searches just to enter bus stations, supermarkets, restaurants, university campuses, and other public places to the point you think it is common and know how to rearrange all your belongings (wallet, key, phone) so that you can get through the check more quickly? Let me know if the answer to any of those questions is "yes" and then perhaps we can talk.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Dec 7 17:19:03 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Dec 7 14:39:28 2017.

The US, as a superpower (at least until Trump totally scuttles that notion in the eyes of the international community either by continuing to suck up to Putin and/or through idiotic policy decisions), is supposedly a "neutral" party trying to bring the Israelis and Palestinians to a peaceful resolution of their decades long conflict through negotiations. No one cares where Costa Rica locates its embassy (it was in Mevaseret Tzion, a Jerusalem suburb, until 2006 when it was the last embassy in the Jerusalem area and is now in Tel Aviv) because Costa Rica isn't mediating the peace process, no matter how dormant it might be. OTOH, people DO notice and care what the US does in this regard. Like it or not, that's how the world works.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Dec 7 17:24:07 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Dec 7 17:19:03 2017.

+1

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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Dec 7 17:25:35 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 14:23:22 2017.

Last time I checked, the United States is not a Christian nation. Are you telling me that Trump, who knows how much appearances can matter and influence other people, couldn't find a space in the White House without decorations so he could make a statement that ought to matter to American Jewry more than anyone else? Why not appear with Chuck Schumer, who voted for the Jerusalem Embassy Act when he was in the House in 1995 to demonstrate this is a move with bipartisan support? Why not appear with a representative of the Israeli embassy, a short 20 minute drive from the White House? Instead he appeared with Mike Pence, whose religiosity and past statements suggest he isn't "pro-Israel" in the way Jews are. You think the Christian right, which continues to support Trump despite POTUS lacking any of the moral values they claim to support, didn't notice those choices? I bet you they did. And as a Jew and Zionist, self-determination isn't going to come from the likes of Mike Pence and CUFI.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Dec 7 17:26:31 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Dec 7 14:21:34 2017.

Presidents have generally opposed the bill because they see it as Congress usurping what are typically foreign relations duties taken up by POTUS in his role as head of state.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Dec 7 17:31:12 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 7 14:40:05 2017.

Perhaps we should put the US embassy to the Holy See within Vatican City's borders first.

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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 7 17:44:50 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Dec 7 17:25:35 2017.

Good post. But not enough to change my mind even though I find Trump's motivations troubling.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 7 17:51:55 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Dec 7 17:31:12 2017.

By that logic, all permanent missions to the UN should be inside the UN complex.

The Vatican is not a real country. Giving the pope sovereignty over the Vatican complex is just a remnant of the now gone Papal States, which were a real country. The Church is the unique international private organization that has sovereignty over its own headquarters complex.

It should be noted that the UN complex is NOT considered its own country like the Vatican.

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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Dec 7 18:25:56 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Dec 7 17:12:38 2017.

"Have you ever gone on a day trip to a place a few hours from home and get home to a bunch of emails and texts asking if you're OK because there was a terror attack two hours earlier?"

I'll chime in on this one. The answer is YES! I was working in Manhattan on the morning of 9/11...enough said.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by R2Chinatown on Thu Dec 7 18:43:09 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Dec 7 17:24:07 2017.

Who the fuck are you kidding. You can't add +1 to anything.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by orange blossom special on Thu Dec 7 19:22:31 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 00:25:17 2017.

Marines don't stand a chance to stay safe against those Zionist Jews in Jewrusalem.

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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 19:39:38 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Dec 7 17:12:38 2017.

I'll give $5.00 if you promise not to beat me up.



All of that would be 100% preventable. Deport all arab muslims from Israel, and ban them from Israel.

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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 19:46:28 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Dec 7 17:12:38 2017.

Pamela Geller

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Dec 7 20:37:46 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Dec 6 14:44:24 2017.

Oh please.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Dec 7 20:38:34 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Dec 6 14:54:03 2017.

Can you ever put your partisan SHIT aside?

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Dec 7 20:41:07 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Dec 6 19:30:34 2017.

As opposed to New York metro and Los Angeles

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Dec 7 20:42:04 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by Fred G on Wed Dec 6 20:26:40 2017.

As opposed to the left which completely lost it's mind.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Dec 7 20:42:56 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Dec 7 13:52:25 2017.

Because the Jayzees of the country are.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Dec 7 20:43:21 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 7 14:40:05 2017.

If you say so.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Dec 7 20:45:39 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Dec 7 17:19:03 2017.

No one here either, except the Leftist "resist" movement

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by AlM on Thu Dec 7 20:50:45 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 15:02:17 2017.

Pourqoui? Avignon est en France.



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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by AlM on Thu Dec 7 20:53:58 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Dec 7 20:42:56 2017.

LOL. If JayZ started supporting Trump, you'd oppose him.



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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 7 22:25:17 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Dec 7 14:48:34 2017.

Well, sometimes you will just have to do what you have to do.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 7 22:25:36 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 14:51:10 2017.

IAWTP

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 7 22:26:23 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Dec 7 15:11:02 2017.

If it needs to be done, it needs to be done. Myself who was born and raised Catholic, know that I don't have the same rights as a Jewish person in Israel. That's just the way it goes.

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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 7 22:32:19 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Dec 7 13:56:01 2017.

What does Christmas decorations have to do with what he said? One has nothing to do with the other.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Dec 7 22:35:25 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 7 22:25:17 2017.

Aparthaid anyone?

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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 7 22:38:25 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Dec 7 18:25:56 2017.

Yes to me as well.

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Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 7 22:39:02 2017, in response to Re: G-d bless President Donald John Trump, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 7 19:39:38 2017.

Yep.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 7 22:54:45 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Dec 7 20:38:34 2017.

Of all things, how is his post partisan?

Nothing wrong with partisans. Partisans fought Nazis.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 7 22:55:09 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Dec 7 20:41:07 2017.

Yep!

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 7 22:58:00 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Dec 7 20:41:07 2017.

It's like talking to a wall with you.

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 7 22:58:13 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 7 22:55:09 2017.

Nope!

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 7 22:59:28 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Dec 7 20:42:04 2017.

Can you ever put your partisan SHIT aside?

Do you realize how much of a massive hypocrite you are?

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Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 7 22:59:56 2017, in response to Re: Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, posted by AlM on Thu Dec 7 20:53:58 2017.

He's obsessed with him.

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