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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 9 22:06:12 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:01:16 2015.

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So does sperm, but masturbation isn't mass murder.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Dec 9 22:06:41 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 21:56:03 2015.

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Klutz.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 9 22:06:59 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 22:03:19 2015.

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That claim sounds made up.

Proff that charge is rarely seen?

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 22:07:15 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Dec 9 22:03:19 2015.

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Nor am I . However, I don't want any part of it and knowing how many incompetent gum owners there are out there, the number of lives needlessly lost of harmed from them, something must be done. I certainly am tired of my tax dollars supporting the carnage. I know every single person in this country bears the risk of all those guns being out there, be it from a mass murderer or a stray bullet. There is no point to these assault rifles beyond killing human beings.

The costs to society guns cause should be borne by gun users.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Dec 9 22:07:23 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 21:59:39 2015.

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Klutz.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Dec 9 22:08:16 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 9 22:04:16 2015.

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I know I am clumsy and am more apt to unintentionally shoot myself than anyone else. I have shot rifles before and if I had the urge I would go down to a range and borrow a 22 with a scope (need it due to eyesight) and do some target shooting

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Dec 9 22:10:02 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 22:07:15 2015.

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The costs to society abortions cause should be borne by abortion users. You want an abortion pay out of pocket for it

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 22:11:14 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:04:26 2015.

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Those laws are all about criminalizing abortion, as those states all wish to rescind the right of a woman to self determination through forcing her to continue a pregnancy against her will,i n anticipation of Roe being reversed. (There's plenty of reasons it should never be, but that digresses from the gun thing)

They have nothing really do with with "fetal homicide". It's about oppressing the rights of women.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 22:11:50 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 9 22:06:12 2015.

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According to some it is. Be careful what you ask for.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:12:47 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 22:03:19 2015.

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Fetal homicide laws do not apply to consensual abortions, Bingy. One again, you're wrong!

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 22:13:13 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Dec 9 22:10:02 2015.

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That's how it rolls today. The RWers won't allow insurance to cover it, although it should. It's a legal procedure. They hate women.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:14:37 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 21:58:16 2015.

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Not wrong. Then why do 38 states have fetal homicide laws?

When are you going to stop posting on things you know absolutely nothing about?

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Dec 9 22:16:02 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:14:37 2015.

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I may disagree with her, but that doesn't mean she needs to leave OTChat

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:16:13 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 21:59:39 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You are the one who brought up throwing bricks at people. Do you think only young people are attacked? Did you see news or videos of any elderly people victims of the knockout game?

Stop posting about things you have no knowledge about!

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:17:43 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 22:11:14 2015.

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WOABB!

Fetal homicide laws specifically do not apply to consensual abortions.

When are you going to stop making an ass of yourself by posting things you have no knowledge about?

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 22:17:43 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:12:47 2015.

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They don't now. The laws were written in anticipation of Roe being overturned. Mostly around the time when Casey was in the courts.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Dec 9 22:19:02 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:16:13 2015.

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Dave, actually I mentioned bricks first in examples of other potentially lethal weapons that bingbong does not want to regulate

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 9 22:19:19 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Dec 9 22:10:02 2015.

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What about the costs of raising children?

Being against the funding of abortions is penny wise and pound foolish.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:19:34 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 22:17:43 2015.

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ROTFL!

For example, legislation was introduced in New York on January 15, 2009 that would prohibit the killing of a fetus “at any state of gestation….” That's your own state, Bingbong!

WOABB!

When are you going to stop making an ass of yourself by posting things you have no knowledge about?

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:20:25 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Dec 9 22:16:02 2015.

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I never said she should leave. But if you're inferring she knows nothing about any subject discussed here, well....

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 9 22:20:33 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:19:34 2015.

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Introduced means nothing.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:21:09 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Dec 9 22:19:02 2015.

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Oh, okay. Thanks for the correction.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 22:21:59 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:14:37 2015.

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Because they wanted to criminalize abortion ASAP. Those laws came about the time when the last abortion case was heard by ScOTUS, and they expected Roe to be overturned. Fetal homicide seemed like the quickest way to eliminate the rights of American women to self determination, these are the misogynist states. You know the list. Not a single one supports any rights for women.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 22:23:01 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:19:34 2015.

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It went nowhere. As it should be.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 22:24:03 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:20:25 2015.

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You're not a woman. So you have no right to say thing one about that which affects us.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:25:23 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 9 22:20:33 2015.

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Fine. Check out Ariz. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 13-1102, § 13-1103, § 13-1104 and § 13-1105 define negligent homicide, manslaughter and first and second degree murder. The law specifies that the offenses apply to an unborn child at any stage in its development.

Or Cal. Penal Code § 187(a) which defines murder as the unlawful killing of a human being or a fetus with malice aforethought.

Or Ill. Rev. Stat. ch. 720 § 5/9-1.2, § 5/9-2.1 and § 5/9-3.2, which define intentional homicide of an unborn child, voluntary manslaughter of an unborn child, involuntary manslaughter and reckless homicide of an unborn child, respectively.

And 35 other states as well.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Dec 9 22:26:00 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 22:24:03 2015.

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When it is my sperm and I would have no problem raising the child even if the mother did not want any relationship with the child then yes it affects me

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:26:20 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 22:24:03 2015.

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LOL!

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:27:57 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 22:21:59 2015.

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WOABB! I haven't read each of the 38 but the one's I did read all were enacted well-post Roe and have nothing to do with Roe.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 9 22:29:32 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:25:23 2015.

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I don't care. I was referring to your mention of New York.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 22:32:32 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Dec 9 22:26:00 2015.

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No it does not. When you can carry a pregnancy to term with all the risk to your OWN health and life, then you can say. Until then, NO. It is not your body or your risk to take.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 22:34:00 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:26:20 2015.

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Only an insensitive prick would. Are you an insensitive prick?

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:34:13 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 9 22:29:32 2015.

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I know. But my point was still valid - the legislation was passed well after Roe and has nothing to do with Roe because they do not apply to consensual abortions.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 9 22:35:54 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Dec 9 22:26:00 2015.

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So you're OK with using a woman as your brood mare for nine months?

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:36:12 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 22:34:00 2015.

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When you can't find facts to support your arguments, it's better to learn from those who have facts rather than continuing to flap yer gums.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 22:36:12 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:27:57 2015.

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That,s exactly what I was saying. The were all enacted in anticipation of its being overturned. A statute like that is instant criminalization of abortion and rescinding of American women's rights to self determination.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 22:36:53 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:34:13 2015.

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Only because they can't. Absent Roe, they DO.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 22:37:16 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:36:12 2015.

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You have no facts.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:37:35 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 22:36:12 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
LOL! I never cease to be amazed at how much shit you make up. The fetal homicide laws do not apply to consensual abortions, which is what the vast majority of abortions are.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:38:33 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 22:36:53 2015.

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LOL! Keep making shit up, Bingbong. It only serves to make yourself look ever more ignorant.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:39:14 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 22:37:16 2015.

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Lulz. I guess the 38 states with fetal homicide laws aren't facts to you?

LOL!

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 10 00:05:58 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 8 14:16:32 2015.

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But it's not up to YOU to decide these things. Place the blame where it belongs, on the criminals.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 10 00:07:48 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 8 14:08:56 2015.

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Have you SEEN the Trailor Park Boys?

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 10 00:09:10 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 8 14:21:25 2015.

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The same thing could be said for owning an automobile.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by bingbong on Thu Dec 10 00:10:44 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:37:35 2015.

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Not yet. You don't comprehend that. No surprise to me.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by bingbong on Thu Dec 10 00:13:58 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:38:33 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Only the ignorant argues the motivation behind laws like that. I know what they're about. Hopefully the intended circumstances to "activate" them as truly intended never happens

You really hate women, don't you?.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by bingbong on Thu Dec 10 00:14:47 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by Dave on Wed Dec 9 22:39:14 2015.

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Yes they are. Do you know why those laws exist, and only in RW states?

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by R2Chinatown on Thu Dec 10 00:15:34 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 9 22:32:32 2015.

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Well then. you should have nothing to say here, either. Lulz

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 10 00:18:03 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 8 14:23:38 2015.

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Did I just read this correctly? Anybody who advocates for the right to have a loaded gun in the house should be placed on a "no gun" list?

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by bingbong on Thu Dec 10 00:20:03 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Dec 8 14:20:26 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I have no paranoia regarding guns. The immediate area where I live is safe to hang out in my yard. I'm cool with this.

You, OTOH, might want to take advantage of it. You clearly need help.

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